UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #23

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jamjim said:
10:41
Defence barrister Oliver Saxby closing the defence case

He has told the jury: “If the day before yesterday’s closing address was a matter of sitting back and listening and being reassured there was no need to consider the detail, being carried along on a wave that gathered momentum and crashed through everything gathered, including the evidence from Durkin and Brewster.

“I’m going to leave you to do some work, some thinking, some analysing. This case isn’t about guess work or intuition, or hunches, or theories, or common sense masquerading as the above, or about revulsion about Pawel Relowicz’s admitted behaviour.

“The case is about the evidence and your analysis of it. Back when the case began you took an oath. That was to try the case on the evidence. Adopting a theory, going on a hunch, making assumptions, pretending you’re using common sense when you’re acting on a sixth sense - these are not the basis you said you would try Pawel Relowicz. These are all poor substitutes for taking on the burden of your role.”

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jamjim said:
10:41
Defence barrister Oliver Saxby closing the defence case

He has told the jury: “If the day before yesterday’s closing address was a matter of sitting back and listening and being reassured there was no need to consider the detail, being carried along on a wave that gathered momentum and crashed through everything gathered, including the evidence from Durkin and Brewster.

“I’m going to leave you to do some work, some thinking, some analysing. This case isn’t about guess work or intuition, or hunches, or theories, or common sense masquerading as the above, or about revulsion about Pawel Relowicz’s admitted behaviour.

“The case is about the evidence and your analysis of it. Back when the case began you took an oath. That was to try the case on the evidence. Adopting a theory, going on a hunch, making assumptions, pretending you’re using common sense when you’re acting on a sixth sense - these are not the basis you said you would try Pawel Relowicz. These are all poor substitutes for taking on the burden of your role.”

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Wonder whether the two mentions of common sense are a riposte to the judge previously telling the jury to use their common sense?
 
You must need the skin of a Rhino to try and act as the Defence in this particular case with all the backtracking and twists and turns of his story. I appreciate Mr Saxby is just doing his job though.
 
10:59
Relowicz had 'a moral responsibility' towards Libby

Mr Saxby said: “The second reality, as far as Pawel Relowicz is concerned, is on his own account he has taken advantage of a person and their situation.

"Whether he is guilty of rape is for you to consider. The law imposes strict rules where a man has sex with someone seriously affected by drink. She was not someone he should have been having sex with for a host of reasons or someone he should have been leaving on her own at night in the state she was in.

"If she had wandered off in the wrong direction, had she had done on the better lit Wellesley Avenue and Beverley Road then this would not have happened if he had stayed with her or called the police. He had a moral responsibility.

"You will think little of him for his previous convictions and even less for him being responsible for what happened. But beware going against such emotions into your analysis into the prosecution’s case and allowing them to support their theories.”

Libby Squire murder trial live updates: Defence give closing speech
 
11:01
Defence questions prosecution case

Mr Saxby is now looking at two realities relating to the prosecution’s case.

He said: “They cannot say how Libby Squire died. They can’t even say she was killed. Dr Lyall’s clear evidence cannot even say she was killed. However much you’re reassured they don’t have to prove this or that, not being able to prove how a victim was killed is a very big caveat in a murder case.

"It means on one of the crucial aspects of the case, the prosecution are forced to rely on inference, carefully constructed arguments, on theories in reality to persuade you of what happened."

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11:02
'The evidence proves not that he killed her, but instead simply that he might have done'

Mr Saxby said:

“The evidence they place before you proves not that he killed her, but instead simply that he might have done, that he could have done. It does not prove he did."

Libby Squire murder trial live updates: Defence give closing speech
 
11:04
Defence says the prosecution 'have opened the door to convicting Relowicz'

Mr Saxby said: "No doubt the prosecution have opened the door to convicting Pawel Relowicz.

"She could have been asphyxiated, sexually assaulted, but you will see that some of you already probably recognise they are short of the evidence they need if they expect you to take that step to be sure of their theories that he raped and killed her.”

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11:07
Defence questions prosecution theory of 'upward curve' in Relowicz's predatory behaviour

Mr Saxby said: “The prosecution theory is that his previous convictions reveal him as a sexual predator, someone who’s conduct they say was on a frantic, upward curve and culminated in him raping and then murdering Libby Squire.

“Rape and murder was the next step up he was told in cross-examination. Assertions which are critical to their case.”

Mr Saxby said: “Let’s start with the agreed facts. Agreed fact 47: Pawel Relowicz has no other convictions or cautions other than those set out in agreed fact 45. Just worth bearing that in mind.

Agreed fact 45 outlines his previous convictions.

Mr Saxby has asked the jury to look at these “beyond the horror and revulsion.”

He has said the offence at Edgecumbe Street was “gross.” He said: “It seems what he enjoyed doing was watching other people having sex” and this was later shown by mobile phone analysis which saw the kind of *advertiser censored* he was watching.

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The defence is throwing their client under the bus as regards to rape, don't you think? I think they see the rape charge as unavoidable and are concentrating on getting him off the murder charge.

" The law imposes strict rules where a man has sex with someone seriously affected by drink. She was not someone he should have been having sex with for a host of reasons or someone he should have been leaving on her own at night in the state she was in."
 
11:10
'No confrontation' in previous offending

Mr Saxby said the burglary at Chester Street showed “no confrontation,” neither did the burglary on Raglan Street.

Mr Saxby said: “Let’s face it. He liked to masturbate while holding someone else’s vibrator and got a kick out of rifling through women’s underwear.

"He was asked what turned him on about it? Well, handling someone else’s vibrator and underwear.

"But fantasising about raping someone, violence and killing someone, that isn’t on the evidence you have.”

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Zazie said:
The defence is throwing their client under the bus as regards to rape, don't you think? I think they see the rape charge as unavoidable and are concentrating on getting him off the murder charge.

" The law imposes strict rules where a man has sex with someone seriously affected by drink. She was not someone he should have been having sex with for a host of reasons or someone he should have been leaving on her own at night in the state she was in."
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But then he says this so I am not sure where he is going but it is not helping me change my mind.
"She could have been asphyxiated, sexually assaulted, but you will see that some of you already probably recognise they are short of the evidence they need if they expect you to take that step to be sure of their theories that he raped and killed her.”
 
11:14
Defence addressing Relowicz's previous offences

Discussing the case of outraging public decency in Alexandra Road, Mr Saxby said: “The same thing he did at the same time on February 1 - somehow that is linked to rape and murder.

"Hang on, January 12, 2019, he was masturbating in roughly the same place at the same time. He went down Beresford Avenue and ‘lurked in the shadows’ - look where he went. He was looking for people to watch and masturbate. This is something he had done before.”

On the offence in Wellesley Avenue, Mr Saxby said it was "disgusting".

But he said there was "no question of contact with the women involved or an attempt to do anything to them".

On the burglary on Ventnor Street, Mr Saxby said: “There was also a vibrator and gel and a student flyer. His wife’s vibrator and gel. On this topic there are also the internet print outs from February 1 - Chaturbate and so on.

“If you look at those - nothing violent in nature, nothing suggesting his sexual offending was on some sort of frantic, upward curve. They are embarrassing and not everyone’s cup of tea. In a great sense they are utterly pathetic but not what the prosecution seek to put on him. They mirror the physical acts we know he did, masturbating, watching people having sex and so on."

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11:17
Relowicz would have had 'ample opportunity' to assault someone before - but didn't, defence says

Mr Saxby said: “As of February 1, 2019, Pawel Relowicz had been living in Hull for a number of years. For a large proportion of this time he had been living in or near Raglan Street, in a student area. His problem wouldn’t have suddenly appeared and he admits he has committed other acts of voyeurism not detected by police.

“Is the prosecution seriously saying that in those eight years or so he hasn’t had a chance to physically or sexually assault someone? Of course not - there would have been ample opportunity.

“Looking at the evidence, and asking yourselves the awkward questions - what do these prove? If he is the person they say why is there no evidence of him having done this and that? Why do we not see signs of this in the internet or whatever?”

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"no question of contact with the women involved or an attempt to do anything to them".

Other than terrify them, leave them with traumatic memories which can last a lifetime - he is making him sound like a naughty schoolboy playing practical jokes, rather than a perverted sexual predator.
 
Not an entirely useful contribution from me but thought it was still worth a post. I spoke with a friend of mine last night who is a police officer with Humberside Police. I don't know if he was involved or based locally at the time of Libby disappearance and the investigation but I asked him his opinion on what he thought about the murder charge. He said he thinks 100% PR killed her and he'd bet his house on it.
 
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