Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #2

[jamjim]

15:21
Statement from dog walkers Judith and Martin Bibby
The jury are now hearing a statement from Judith Bibby who went on a dog walk in the Coppice with her husband Martin.

The travelled from Baxenden to the Coppice and arrived at 4.20pm on August 12. They parked at the top of Peel Park Avenue.

They were walking their dog Ralph.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[jamjim]

15:23
Red coat seen hanging on barb wire fence
Judith Bibby said she noticed a red anorak hanging on a barb wire fence.

She said: “It was a nice day that day. I thought it was strange.”

The jury heard that the only way of getting to the anorak was through a field because the brambles were so overgrown.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[jamjim]

15:24
'I heard a voice'
Judith Bibby said she then heard a voice but couldn’t say if it was male or female.

She said: “My first thought was that it was kids. It was the school holidays that day and nice weather.

“The voice was just a voice. There was nothing malicious.”

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[jamjim]

15:28
Red anorak not there the next day
Judith Bibby said they went on another walk around the Coppice at 9.30am the next day (August 27) and the anorak wasn’t there.

She said she was aware Lindsay was missing and was seen on CCTV wearing a purple jacket with a different coloured lining, possibly red.

Mrs Bibby said she thought the red anorak ‘could have been her jacket inside out’.

She later reported the finding to an ‘official’ man on the Coppice and then reported it to police.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[jamjim]

Right, I'm going to be unavailable for the next 10/15 minutes so if anyone wants to continue the updates, feel free

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I am so curious why the defendant, allegedly, killed her in the vicinity of the Coppice but then moved her via wheelie bin all the way across Burnley Rd to the rear of the cemetery. Why not just bury her there?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

15:33
CCTV of Judith Bibby's car at the Coppice
Detective Sergeant Bowler has now retaken his position in the witness box.

He is now showing the jury CCTV clips of Judith Bibby’s car arriving and leaving the Coppice.

15:38
Timeline of events on August 12, 2019
The jury are now being taken through a timeline in their jury bundles of events on August 12, 2019.

These include different text messages and movements of Lindsay Birbeck and her daughter Sarah.
Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[CrimeDawg123]

15:41
CCTV of the defendant with 'muddy knees'
The jury have just been show more CCTV of the defendant walking down the side of the Whitakers Arms on Burnley Road in Accrington on August 12, 2019.

He continues walking down the road towards Whitewell Road.

Det Sgt Bowler said: “His tracksuit top is partially unzipped and he appears to be bare chested. He also appears to have muddy knees.”

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[CrimeDawg123]

15:45
Case closed for the day
The trial has now been adjourned until 10.30am tomorrow morning.

The defendant’s barrister Mark Fenhalls QC told the court that this is because he faces a journey of more than two hours to where he is staying.

Thank you for following today’s live blog.

We will bring you more updates from court on Thursday.
Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

 

[jamjim]

Duplicate, DBM

 

[jamjim]

Thank you @CrimeDawg123!

 

[Skigh]

Thanks for all the updates,much appreciated.

 

[Legally Bland]

Thanks from me too for the updates.

The Guardian are saying he does have autism:

In a statement provided to police on 30 August, which was read to the court, the defendant, who has autism and a learning disability, said he had been approached by a man he did not know in the area to “get rid of a body” for him.

Lindsay Birbeck killing: boy, 17, moved body in wheelie bin, jury told

 

[Alyce]

15:28
Red anorak not there the next day
Judith Bibby said they went on another walk around the Coppice at 9.30am the next day (August 27) and the anorak wasn’t there.

She said she was aware Lindsay was missing and was seen on CCTV wearing a purple jacket with a different coloured lining, possibly red.

Mrs Bibby said she thought the red anorak ‘could have been her jacket inside out’.

She later reported the finding to an ‘official’ man on the Coppice and then reported it to police.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

I presume the court reporter has the wrong date here - must mean August 13

 

[Alyce]

I am so curious why the defendant, allegedly, killed her in the vicinity of the Coppice but then moved her via wheelie bin all the way across Burnley Rd to the rear of the cemetery. Why not just bury her there?

From memory - in the first few days after Lindsay disappeared, the search area concentrated on The Coppice and the Cemetery.
Then on Friday August 16, there were notices, locally, advising the public that the meeting place for the search on Saturday August 17 would be next to Whitakers pub.
I believe the main cemetery search also ended on the Friday.

So putting the two together, perhaps moved her body away from the area that was going to be searched and into an area that had already been searched.

 

[Ann Blyth]

Ok, so he was interviewed on the first day, gave no comment, pretty standard. Then on day 2 of police interviews, gives a pre prepared statement, saying he dealt with disposal only....IMO based on the limited police pre interview disclosure, had to cough at least to disposal of Lindsay’s body, his DNA is everywhere from the sound of it, he had to explain for the presence of his DNA, even at that early stage. It will be interesting to see if the defendant takes the stand in due course, I am expecting that he won’t but you never know........

 

[Alyce]

But then disposed of them in the same bag, doesnt make sense does it.
I wondered if it was to remove them easier from her body but then thought how hard would it be, surely just undoing/untying would be easier? I wonder if we will be offered possible scenarios by the prosecution at some point.

It would be interesting to know if there were any cuts in the upper part of the trainer. If so, then the soles could have been cut off first, to make it easier to cut off the remainder of the trainer - am thinking rigor mortis here. The fact that they were found in the same bag makes it seem unlikely the soles were cut off to hide something.

 

[Ann Blyth]

And I don’t think his learning difficulties are enough to get him off this one, he’s shown enough presence of mind at least partially anyway to show he knows right from wrong.

 

[Alyce]

15:21
Statement from dog walkers Judith and Martin Bibby
The jury are now hearing a statement from Judith Bibby who went on a dog walk in the Coppice with her husband Martin.The travelled from Baxenden to the Coppice and arrived at 4.20pm on August 12. They parked at the top of Peel Park Avenue.

They were walking their dog Ralph.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial at Preston Crown Court - updates

Map showing location of Peel Park Avenue and route down to the Coppice


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[Mommysleuth11]

And I don’t think his learning difficulties are enough to get him off this one, he’s shown enough presence of mind at least partially anyway to show he knows right from wrong.

The evidence today has completely blindsided me, i think i would rather have believed the 'fitted up' story. Seems less and less likely now.

Maybe he had dark obsessions, i cant get my mind around it.