UK- London Nine injured in suspected acid attack, children among injured 01/31/24

[Cartie]

"Chemical attacks are happening
'almost weekly'
in Newcastle,
sources at the city's biggest hospital have told LBC after warning of an increase in patients being treated for burns to the face.

Concerned doctors at
Newcastle's Royal Victoria Infirmary
have now told LBC they are treating
'multiple patients a month, if not per week',
who have suffered injuries to their eyes from what is believed to be caustic alkali.

One source said:
'Down in London alkaline attacks aren’t common,
but in Newcastle alkaline attacks to the face like that are getting really, really common'.

'We’re getting multiple, multiple of them a month,
if not per week.

There were two on the ward just before Christmas on the same day.
They were separate.
One had a machete wound to the neck too.

The consultants here who specialise in the retina,
so look after things with these attacks,
have been saying how common it's getting.

Consultants say it’s happening almost weekly.

It’s definitely multiple a month now'."

Chemical attacks happening 'almost weekly', Newcastle doctors warn amid manhunt for Clapham attack suspect

Chemical attacks are happening 'almost weekly' in Newcastle, sources at the city's biggest hospital have told LBC after warning of an increase in patients being treated for burns to the face.

www.lbc.co.uk

I never heard that this was going on, frightening, I do hope it's not going to spread and increase

 

[Lucy6226]

Looking at the video,it does not appear to me that he is in extreme pain, which he would have been in with a severe chemical burn to his eye.

I wonder if there is some kind of nerve damage going on?

 

[naomiuk]

If that was a chemical burn there's no way he'd have been as composed in tesco just an hour later. Even trying to hold himself together, I imagine he would have been physically shaking from pain

I really do think it’s a burn, based on the descriptions of the victims injuries turning black

 

[Telltale]

I never heard that this was going on, frightening, I do hope it's not going to spread and increase

It crops up every few years. Before they wacked up the sentence there was spat of acid attacks as a means to steal mopeds, phones etc in London. Just get within a few feet, hold out the bottle and squeeze. Hard to hold onto your stuff while your face is melting.

It's a right arse for the police because the best container is a sports water bottle since it has good spray. But how do you begin to police people walking around with water bottles? It's not like a knife. If found with a bottle of draino or whatever. Well you bought/borrowed for your old mum it and are heading back to help fix them drains. Far easier to introduce reasonable doubt than with a machete.

Using acid is a special kind of evil. The injuries it leaves those who manage to survive are utterly nightmarish. The people who end up the public face of this sort of thing tend to be people who either got off lightly or benefited from the very best medical care, so it often leaves victims worse off than even the horrible scars with public associates with it.

 

[Haveyoufedthecat]

Well. I've just logged on and myself and husband are horrified he's not been apprehended by tonight. Husband is wondering whether £20000 might loosen some tongues and although I agree with him I am seriously beginning to wonder if he has got out of the country and let's face it, that couldn't have been done without assistance. Just gets worse and worse.

 

[ifindedout]

(Usually) council owned land divided into small patches that people can rent to grow vegetables. Often dotted with sheds and such. Not a terrible place to hide in theory. Though saying that, they're often populated by nosy old biddies who'd clock an interloper immediately and be absolutely delighted to phone up the Met and shop him in.

They become very popular during WWII and are commonly one of the few areas semi-private but accessible unbuilt-on land you find around really urbanised estates and cities. Very very hard to get your hands on a plot these days or so I'm told.

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Typically look something like this.

They exist in the U.S. too, sometimes in big cities on vacant industrial land.

 

[JennieM]

Clapham attack: 'I thought three-year-old victim was going to die in my arms'​

[…]

The woman - who wishes to remain anonymous - told the BBC she went to hospital with the child after seeing her "being slammed to the ground".

Speaking to the BBC, the witness said she saw Ezedi drag the younger girl from a car before slamming her into the ground twice - and running off.

"I heard a bit of shouting and I could hear it louder. So I ran outside. But I was just in shock. I first thought there had been a car crash or something," she said.

She continued: "The suspect slammed what I thought was a car seat or a bag to the floor after jumping from a white car.

"The sound, the thud, the scream, that's when I realised it was a little girl being slammed to the ground, like a WWF wrestling move.

"Then I saw two men jump on the suspect and try to pin him down, before he managed to get free and run off. So I just grabbed the three-year-old girl and took her into my arms before rushing her into the nearby hotel, where her older sister and mother were. Her mother was hysterical."

The resident […] tried to reassure the three-year-old, who was barely conscious and whose head was "red and swollen".

It looked like the attacker was trying to "crack her head open", she said, adding: "It gives me shivers thinking about what he did."

She continued: "When I picked her up - the youngest child - she was trying to go to sleep. I knew from watching 24 Hours in A&E that the best thing to do for head injuries is to place somebody into the recovery position, so that's what I did.

"But before I did, she just went limp. I thought the youngest of the two girls was about to die in my arms. Luckily the three-year-old woke up and started to call for her mum.

"I took her to the waiting ambulance, she was clinging to me and didn't want to go, so I escorted her to hospital in the back of the ambulance, talking to her the entire way."

[…]

Clapham attack: 'I thought three-year-old victim was going to die in my arms'

A witness who came to the rescue of an assaulted three-year-old tells the BBC she rushed her to hospital.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Megnut]

Clapham attack: 'I thought three-year-old victim was going to die in my arms'​

[…]

The woman - who wishes to remain anonymous - told the BBC she went to hospital with the child after seeing her "being slammed to the ground".

Speaking to the BBC, the witness said she saw Ezedi drag the younger girl from a car before slamming her into the ground twice - and running off.

"I heard a bit of shouting and I could hear it louder. So I ran outside. But I was just in shock. I first thought there had been a car crash or something," she said.

She continued: "The suspect slammed what I thought was a car seat or a bag to the floor after jumping from a white car.

"The sound, the thud, the scream, that's when I realised it was a little girl being slammed to the ground, like a WWF wrestling move.

"Then I saw two men jump on the suspect and try to pin him down, before he managed to get free and run off. So I just grabbed the three-year-old girl and took her into my arms before rushing her into the nearby hotel, where her older sister and mother were. Her mother was hysterical."

The resident […] tried to reassure the three-year-old, who was barely conscious and whose head was "red and swollen".

It looked like the attacker was trying to "crack her head open", she said, adding: "It gives me shivers thinking about what he did."

She continued: "When I picked her up - the youngest child - she was trying to go to sleep. I knew from watching 24 Hours in A&E that the best thing to do for head injuries is to place somebody into the recovery position, so that's what I did.

"But before I did, she just went limp. I thought the youngest of the two girls was about to die in my arms. Luckily the three-year-old woke up and started to call for her mum.

"I took her to the waiting ambulance, she was clinging to me and didn't want to go, so I escorted her to hospital in the back of the ambulance, talking to her the entire way."

[…]

Clapham attack: 'I thought three-year-old victim was going to die in my arms'

A witness who came to the rescue of an assaulted three-year-old tells the BBC she rushed her to hospital.

www.bbc.co.uk

Look for the helpers.

People like the suspect erode my faith in humanity.

People like this lady restore it.

Jmo

 

[Seni]

I dont think anyone would help him from Afghan community in UK, especially if it turns out that the woman he assaulted was his partner. Maybe the children were his?

They would lynch him or at least cut off his hands

 

[Seni]

Imo the injury came from the fall. I go with this hypothesis whilst there is no evidence of him having been splashed with his own corrosive substance and no idea whether he was injured when he crashed the car

The vídeos of him buying water show him to be physically relaxed, in any casé not stressed or in diré pain.

Could have been a cut to the eyebrow which bled a lot, but he cleaned it up? Maybe also a broken nose?

Easily hidden with a balaclava in cold weather.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

I hadn't seen that, the other video stopped before this. He really did take a header. Did his face hit the ground though? Looks like his right arm came down to stop himself.

I think his head must have hit the ground to at least some degree with the way his head seems to bounce/whiplash. He probably managed to avoid full impact (which might have knocked him out!) but it wouldn't take much to cause a cut and a black eye.

I'm not a big believer in coincidence. I think it would be a pretty big coincidence for someone to fall on the right side of their face, have a wound on the area they appear to have hit, and the two not be connected.

As ever I'm fully prepared to be wrong.

 

[JennieM]

Would his bruise go so black within just an hour or two though?

Many Colors​

As you heal, an iron-rich substance in your blood -- called hemoglobin -- breaks down into other compounds. This process makes your bruise change colors:
• It’s usually red right after the injury.
• Within a day or two, it turns purplish or black and blue.
• In 5 to 10 days, it may be green or yellow.
• In 10 to 14 days, it’s yellowy-brown or light brown.
It should fade away totally in about 2 weeks.

Anatomy of a Bruise

We all get them once in a while -- find out more about why they change colors, why some people bruise more easily, and what you can do about them.

www.webmd.com

Also, the black area on his face is quite concentrated. If it was a bruise from hitting the ground, wouldn’t some areas be darker and lighter than others depending on the impact? His is just black though, one big area that’s the same colour.

I don’t know how bruising works, just wondering.

IMAGE SOURCE, MET POLICE

 

[Seni]

Would his bruise go so black within just an hour or two though?

Many Colors​

As you heal, an iron-rich substance in your blood -- called hemoglobin -- breaks down into other compounds. This process makes your bruise change colors:
• It’s usually red right after the injury.
• Within a day or two, it turns purplish or black and blue.
• In 5 to 10 days, it may be green or yellow.
• In 10 to 14 days, it’s yellowy-brown or light brown.
It should fade away totally in about 2 weeks.

Anatomy of a Bruise

We all get them once in a while -- find out more about why they change colors, why some people bruise more easily, and what you can do about them.

www.webmd.com

Also, the black area on his face is quite concentrated. If it was a bruise from hitting the ground, wouldn’t some areas be darker and lighter than others depending on the impact? His is just black though, one big area that’s the same colour.

I don’t know how bruising works, just wondering.

But what we saw could be bleeding, not a bruise yet. If he cut an eyebrow and it bled and congealed?. Bruising takes a couple of days, IMO and doesnt appear as black, IME.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

Would his bruise go so black within just an hour or two though?

Many Colors​

As you heal, an iron-rich substance in your blood -- called hemoglobin -- breaks down into other compounds. This process makes your bruise change colors:
• It’s usually red right after the injury.
• Within a day or two, it turns purplish or black and blue.
• In 5 to 10 days, it may be green or yellow.
• In 10 to 14 days, it’s yellowy-brown or light brown.
It should fade away totally in about 2 weeks.

Anatomy of a Bruise

We all get them once in a while -- find out more about why they change colors, why some people bruise more easily, and what you can do about them.

www.webmd.com

Also, the black area on his face is quite concentrated. If it was a bruise from hitting the ground, wouldn’t some areas be darker and lighter than others depending on the impact? His is just black though, one big area that’s the same colour.

I don’t know how bruising works, just wondering.

IMAGE SOURCE, MET POLICE

Please only click on this if you don't mind seeing a female boxer with a badly bruised eye. This image is from when the bout was still ongoing, meaning it was probably approx. 30 mins or less after the injury was sustained:

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www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

It's worth noting (and I sincerely hope nobody is offended by my pointing it out) that bruising looks darker on dark skin simply because of the skin pigment.

 

[Dotta]

"Three of the UK's biggest forces -

the Metropolitan Police,
Northumbria Police and
British Transport Police -

were originally looking for him.

They were later joined by the
Home Office,
UK Border Force,
UK Visas and Immigration
and the National Crime Agency."

Clapham chemical attack: Everything we know so far

Police say the suspect was last seen at 11.27pm on Chelsea Bridge after walking for miles alongside the River Thames on the day of the attack - with images of him from earlier in the day showing "significant injuries" to his face.

news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[RichardKimble]

What would the reasoning be for helping him out of the country, apart from the obvious attack, what his he some crime lord? I just don't see it,imo he's holed up somewhere .

 

[Yellowbelly]

What would the reasoning be for helping him out of the country, apart from the obvious attack, what his he some crime lord? I just don't see it,imo he's holed up somewhere .

I would imagine that the people smuggling gangs aren't too bothered who you are, just as long as you've got the money to pay them. Having been smuggled into the country by them, perhaps he still knew who to get in touch with.

Assuming this is what he's done, of course.

 

[Skigh]

Clapham acid attacker Abdul Ezedi may already be dead, officer claims

Metropolitan Police officers have been chasing the 35-year-old Afghan asylum seeker since Wednesday after he doused a mother and her two daughters in chemical in a horrific attack.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The interviewer questioned whether it was possible for Ezedi to move about in public, given the astonishing level of CCTV footage that captured his movements on Wednesday.

Mr Aldworth added: 'I think that's unlikely, we had a lot of very good coverage of him in the first day or two, and CCTV across London is as you allude to, quite extensive.

'It is possible to trap somebody across London using public network CCTV and also using public appeals for things like dashcams.

'You effectively follow the individual from camera to camera and when the last camera captures his image, you literally do a trawl around the area for whichever other camera might have also captured their image and then you start that journey again.

'There have been some incredible successes over time in tracking individuals through that method and it is very effective, there's software that helps as well.'

He added that private footage from doorbells and dashcam was 'voluntary' and reliant on people surrendering it to police.

'I think they [police] have a very good sense of what area he's in. What you can't discount of course is that he has been picked up by an ally and moved somewhere else, perhaps in a vehicle.

 

[Dotta]

The notoriety of this terrible case is worrying in the sense that it might provoke copycats in those who so far depended on just fights or using knives.

Substances, like plumber drain cleaners are easily obtained in shops, etc.

A victim doused with chemicals on face/eyes has only seconds/minutes to act.
Not everybody has immediate access to water to rinse the chemicals.

A single splash of chemicals can make a person blind and disfigured.

It is terrifying.

And I really don't recall such cases in the place where I live.
Guys usually just get into fights throwing punches.
And it might end with a broken nose or black eye.

It seems to be a cultural thing.
But it might, unfortunately, spread among wider society.

JMO