Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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My worry is his equipment isn’t as “all that” as he says and when he can’t find her in the river he’ll make out that there is no way that she is in the river. When there is in fact still a chance. Certainly seems to be conducting himself with a sense of arrogance and disregard for the delicate way this should be dealt with. IMO.
 
Reporter was at the bench. Several people standing around the bench chatting, looked to be general public, but could be friends and family. One guy standing right down on the bank edge looking into the water.

From the video and her walk around, the river is much bigger than I had thought it to be. Not an easy task to search it.
I don't think they were friends and family, for the reason that they were standing about looking relaxed and some of them grinning. Agree about the river looking far bigger than perhaps some of us imagined it to be.
 
My worry is his equipment isn’t as “all that” as he says and when he can’t find her in the river he’ll make out that there is no way that she is in the river. When there is in fact still a chance. Certainly seems to be conducting himself with a sense of arrogance and disregard for the delicate way this should be dealt with. IMO.
Yeah he hasn't come across that well. I've not seen any stats but he says his hit rate is excellent with this equipment. Bounds in, says he'll find her, if there, in minutes, a day. If that happens he looks great. If not, he goes on his merry way and if she does turn up, well then there are numerous variables as to why not.

But, he's there looking so let's hope if she is there he finds her regardless of his attitude.
 

‘If we can’t find Nicola Bulley in next three to four days, she’s not here,’ says rescue firm chief​

The head of the specialist diving company joining the search appears to have sought to temper expectations somewhat, shortly after appearing to suggest that his team’s sonar equipment could find Nicola Bulley within minutes if her body is in the River Wyre.
“We are dealing with about 10 drownings every summer. We always locate within the hour,” Peter Faulding told the paper.
But shortly after arriving in St Michael’s on Wyre, Mr Faulding told reporters that it was a “particularly long” stretch of river to search and that his team was bringing a "back-up resource" for the police.
He added: “If we can’t find her in the next three or four days in this river, if she’s not here, then I’m confident that she’s not in this stretch of river. I’d be very confident of that.
“We are going to be working our hardest, we’ll probably be working under darkness tonight for a while and that’s my intention to help the family.”

Quotes from the specialist diving team there today - from the independent.


I think it's- potentially - a bit irresponsible saying on national TV & with a distraught family listening that ...

‘If we can’t find Nicola Bulley in next three to four days, she’s not here’​


what if they don't find her in 3-4 days? ( personally, I trust & hope that they/any of the teams will find her soon)

Here's a search he was previously involved with, Mary Yap.

'Police believe the 72-year-old mum-of-four, who went missing from Malvern on November 18, was last seen on Powick bridge over the River Teme....LE had found her mother’s handbag in the river on the day after her disappearance.
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( In early December Peter Faulding's company went into help but they did not find her. )

Mary's body was recovered a month after that, in January by ...'she was discovered by a crew from Severn Area Search and Rescue Association'

PS Poor Mrs Yap went into the water at Powick Bridge, Worcester but body was found approx 12 miles away at Severn at Ryall, near Upton ( Just checked the distance)
 
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I can see how PF's involvement is a delicate thing for LE, which is what I alluded to earlier. As mentioned just now, if this high tech, all-singing, all-dancing equipment finds nothing, many will believe that - because of the fanfare - NB is simply not there, and therefore question why LE has been so adamant about NB entering the water. That would seem an unfair judgement on the incredible efforts made by LE - both known and unknown.

I think it has the potential to make things tricky for LE.

Of course, the reality is that everyone just wants to find her. If the equipment DOES find NB or clothing/etc. then he will be proved right, and poor NB can be brought back to her family. There will be immense sadness, tempered with the sombre relief that at least the family don't have this awful waiting any longer.
 
As a SAR volunteer (and we are not volunteers in a typical sense - it’s a huge commitment, with a high standard of training even involved in just land area searches, which is what I am qualified in) - this whole debate has been interesting because typically SAR orgs outside the police/fire service/etc are volunteer positions provided to the police free of charge.

It’s also something most of us do with little desire or expectation of recognition or publicity - SAR is a team sport is a commonly used phrase - taking co-operation across people, teams and agencies. One person may have the find - but ruling out other areas, all the clues along the way, ops, planning, etc are just as valuable to making that find.

We also know that the police have information they may only share within the search and not publicly (and indeed information they withhold from search teams too for various operational and data protection reasons).

In short, I hope this search is successful (if she is in the water), but the tone has been a bit grating to me personally - and shouldn’t detract from the incredible job that has probably been conducted up to this point.
 
If nobody checked on the dog and nobody else found the dog, that suggests nobody new came to the location.
The kids were at school and hubby at home, so I'm not sure who would check on the dog. When I walked a dog, I didn't pay a lot of attention to other dogs. Others passing that way would quite likely have ignored a dog on its own. If you're out on a common or in the woods and you see a dog on its own, you just assume the owner was elsewhere.

What would have attracted attention, as in 'that's not right', is the smartphone abandoned on a bench. I suppose a devious abductor might leave it there so it didn't come along with and locate the victim, but if any abductor had got hold of NB's phone, they would surely have just lobbed it into the river or undergrowth? That way it won't even attract attention.
 
I think it's- potentially - a bit irresponsible saying on national TV & with a distraught family listening that ...

‘If we can’t find Nicola Bulley in next three to four days, she’s not here’​


what if they don't find her in 3-4 days? ( personally, I trust & hope that they/any of the teams will find her soon)

Here's a search he was previously involved with, Mary Yap.

'Police believe the 72-year-old mum-of-four, who went missing from Malvern on November 18, was last seen on Powick bridge over the River Teme.' ( In early December Peter Faulding's company went into help but they did not find her. )

Mary's body was recovered a month after that, in mid January by ...'he was discovered by a crew from Severn Area Search and Rescue Association'
Great post
 
Yeah he hasn't come across that well. I've not seen any stats but he says his hit rate is excellent with this equipment. Bounds in, says he'll find her, if there, in minutes, a day. If that happens he looks great. If not, he goes on his merry way and if she does turn up, well then there are numerous variables as to why not.

But, he's there looking so let's hope if she is there he finds her regardless of his attitude.
If his team doesn't have any success, and he continues to offer his opinions on the case, he needs to be publicly told to shut up, and go home. The media are to blame as much as he is, the days of proper journalism ended a long time ago.
 
Has anyone mentioned this exit point onto Blackpool Lane next to The Grapes pub car park?

The wooden sign says 'Public footpath. Riverside Walk'

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Google Maps link
Good spot - it turns right at the end of this pic and goes behind The Grapes and joins the Riverwalk about 2-300m down from the Blackpool Lane riverside entrance. It also links up with Allotment Lane (you can see the last bit of this on google maps)
 
Please forgive me if this has already been mentioned. Im struggling to keep up with thread due to the many repetitive comments.

I note that the description of Nicolas clothing broadcast in MSM on the early days of her going missing are stating that her jackets / outer clothing were black and her jeans were black.

However, the doorbell camera stills clearly show that she is wearing Blue olm, ,uterclothing and Blue denim jeans.

This reminds me of the Claudia Lawrence case when police circulated a picture of her with the totally wrong hair colour.

How can this error be made. I appreciate that sometimes navy blue can appear black, but on the doorbell footage, the coat is clearly Blue as are the denims.
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Can anyone help me on this please?

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I notice she has a bottle of water. I wonder if she took that on her walk
 
Reporter was at the bench. Several people standing around the bench chatting, looked to be general public, but could be friends and family. One guy standing right down on the bank edge looking into the water.

From the video and her walk around, the river is much bigger than I had thought it to be. Not an easy task to search it.
If this turns out to be foul play the whole area is contaminated. I have no words. Honestly.
 
According to ‘expert’ Peter, a body would only move slowly once sunk.
It would have to move 1.4km a day. I have no sense for how likely this is if submerged. Has the speed of the Wyre's current been indicated? I have seen flow figures expressed as cubes per second, but this doesn't give you current speed unless you know width and depth.
 
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