Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #7

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Has there ever been mention of a lead?
I can't imagine there not being a lead attached to the harness and if so, where is it?
What did the lady who found Willow running around tie her up with?
Could Willow have been tied to the bench by a lead attached to her harness and she managed to get out of her harness, hence she was now free? Still doesn't explain where the lead is or if it was still attached to the harness? And if it was, then Willow managed to disengage the lead from whatever it was tied to, rather than only wriggle out of her harness.
If Willow had been tied to something (bench) it could explain why she wasn't able to initially follow NB or whoever tied her up, although you'd think as soon as she'd got herself free, she'd leave the bench area and go off in search of someone or somewhere famliar (like the school carpark), not remain in situ - unless NB was very close by, i.e. in the water. And if that were the case, given this dog swims, as many have already said, why wouldn't she have jumped in?
Something's not right about the dog's behaviour. If she knew she could get to NB, then I think she'd try. But if she knew that only a human could deal with the situation, then rushing around looking confused and upset would be more likely. When my dog sees something he thinks is within his capability to deal with (defend/protect/steal a sausage) then he will, but if the cat's vomitting/coughing dramatically/meowing to be let in and I haven't noticed, he paces and pesters me to DEAL WITH IT.
 
Just-a-random-girl said:
Police could test this out by dressing an officer or volunteer in a similar outfit and seeing the effect of the clothing in falling in, and then trying to exit, a pool or something.

As the jacket was quite thick and long, albeit knee-length not ankle-length, I am wondering if - on entering the water - the bottom half could have ended up over her head. In that case, she might not be able to see/move.
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I don't think it would be necessary to carry out any tests to ascertain the effect of NB's clothing in this situation/temperature/environment, and I agree that it could have had a disastrous effect on her ability to get out of the water - swimmer or not.
 
I’ve just been reading a sciencey article about drowning and a dead body will tend to be face down with limbs dangling with only their back showing. A black padded coat would be difficult to spot unless it floated right past you.

Also, would tight clothing (such as two zipped up coats) hinder the usual decomposition process by not allowing bodies to expand as much?
 
Night Shift said:
Just a general observation - there has not been an update for now for hours, which, in my experience, means that there will be a big update soon, as soon as all other parties that need to know the info first are told.
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I don’t agree at all. The police don’t give regular updates and certainly won’t when it’s so late at night. They’ve already given one update today.
 
Night Shift said:
Typically, the BBC online news have been giving updates every hour or so. And contrary to other comments n here, Lancs Police have been giving updates every day since Nicola went missing.
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The news outlets msm will of course be updating on a regular basis, we are talking about the main source of information being the lancashire police force they certainly have not been giving updates every day.IMO
 
Night Shift said:
Typically, the BBC online news have been giving updates every hour or so. And contrary to other comments n here, Lancs Police have been giving updates every day since Nicola went missing.
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There's a big difference between yet another headline and an official update.
Here is where Lancashire Police post their official statements:
lancashire.police.uk

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The latest news and information for Lancashire Constabulary
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karakuchi said:
Great!
In that case, let's all take a look at this recent set posted 29 November 2022.
Nicola walks the exact route where she was last seen missing, all the way to the weir
Oh and what's that... Willow is wearing her harness...

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I don't understand the point of this? Friend was reported v early on in msm saying she took the harness off at start of walks, and stated as usual in first police conference. She may not have done it every time but we know it was usual
 
PandaMarch said:
I don't understand the point of this? Friend was reported v early on in msm saying she took the harness off at start of walks, and stated as usual in first police conference. She may not have done it every time but we know it was usual
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The point is we were discussing a Facebook post of the dog in the water, the dog was found dry
I then showed a picture of the dog in the harness, the dog was found without a harness.

Both are hosted on Facebook.

I was trying to show we can't base theories on the Facebook posts alone.
 
Maclane said:
My theory is she had a medical episode such as low blood pressure and fainted, put her phone down before passing out, rolled down the bank and quickly into deep trouble. Its plausible to me that a water loving dog would still not jump into a cold river from a steep bank. The summer photos are a different scenario entirely.
And rivers are just very difficult to search.
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Something like this is my theory too.
We don't know about her health, the police would obviously not be able to say anything about her health if there was something. It could be a reason they think an accident has happened.
After posting very regularly on facebook she has no posts or pictures throughout January.
She was carrying a bottle of water that morning.
People have commented that the timeline of the walk seems rushed.
Where would you head if suddenly feeling unwell? A bench?
Have also seen comments about how she doesn't look how expected in the CCTV pictures.
JMO MOO
 
Firstsnow4 said:
Hadn’t listened to the interview just saw the headline and assumed it was the SIO with the police!
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Just watched it again. The reporter says he has spoken to the Senior Investigating Officer who has told him NB could have walked away from scene. SI Riley hasn't said that at all to my mind. Her working hypothesis is NB fell into the river but she was keeping an open mind. The reporter also said that the SIO was holding back info from PF. Make of that you will. It's a report from Talk Tv
 
PandaMarch said:
I don't understand the point of this? Friend was reported v early on in msm saying she took the harness off at start of walks, and stated as usual in first police conference. She may not have done it every time but we know it was usual
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Also did you look at the set of photos?
It is the EXACT same walk/route she took when she disappeared.

Harness on.

The dog-in-water photos are another location.
 
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