Just for emphasis. Think the context gives the idea that the root of that being addressed/consoled is perceived to be purely in the mind of the person being addressed.So, do we think Dr.A has named someone? Or are the asterisks just gor emphasis?
"If *anybody* says something to you about being not good enough or performing adequately I want you to promise me that you'll give my details to provide a statement."
And not just anyone who had a close relationship with her. You only need look at the appalling damage an out of control social media can inflict upon anyone whose name/face happens to flow into the latest news cycle. This is wholly warranted self-protection.
I'm surprised more of the witnesses here haven't chosen the same degree of anonymity as Dr Choc.
I bet many are wishing they had now!
A fair point, just muses on my behalf. It will be interesting to hear the discussions of others following the aftermath of these awful cases.I wouldn't blame any witnesses from requesting the screen if they had fairly close relations with LL at the time this was all happening, regardless of whether they might have supported her back then, or even support her now.
IMO, there is no reason to believe he vouches for LL now.
Why do you say that? I hope you don't mean it because they've become the objects of SM speculation and abuse?
I’m not so sure, we don’t really know his true thoughts as yet because I feel there is more to come from him.I might seem heartless but I don't feel the same.
He was a DOCTOR completely oblivious to the (alleged) drama of patients under his care.
Drama happening "under his nose".
Clueless.
Not to mention engaging into (alleged) "office/hospital romance" during working hours - and I guess much to amusement of staff and gossip.
(The text of a nurse about "going commando")
My sympathy and tears are solely for Babies and their parents.
JMO
I think that’s what it is for me; that so few others have chosen to do the same. Personally I feel I would if I was in their position. It’s interesting hearing everyone’s thoughts on this.And not just anyone who had a close relationship with her. You only need look at the appalling damage an out of control social media can inflict upon anyone whose name/face happens to flow into the latest news cycle. This is wholly warranted self-protection.
I'm surprised more of the witnesses here haven't chosen the same degree of anonymity as Dr Choc.
"who told you?" seems a bit paranoid to me. Why should it matter to LL how her colleague who is at work heard about baby E having died? It's as if LL thinks it is about her and not the baby.I totally get that line of thought. I suppose I’m not actually ruling it out only stating that that passage of writing doesn’t give it away. In essence no reason to think it’s anything but a normal response that anyone would give in that situation.
i Would give that proposition much more due seriousness if there was anything that could be tied into that being a likely suggestion. As an example any other instances of her using veiled language, ever. The same investigatory method I’m applying to her imo personal usage of the words “not good enough” and clinical usage of her personal phrase “rubbish”.
Can I ask what it is that makes you think that that is a veiled question with only one aim?
I might seem heartless but I don't feel the same.
He was a DOCTOR completely oblivious to the (alleged) drama of patients under his care.
Drama happening "under his nose".
Clueless.
Not to mention engaging into (alleged) "office/hospital romance" during working hours - and I guess much to amusement of staff and gossip.
(The text of a nurse about "going commando")
My sympathy and tears are solely for Babies and their parents.
JMO
I think that’s what it is for me; that so few others have chosen to do the same. Personally I feel I would if I was in their position. It’s interesting hearing everyone’s thoughts on this.
JMO
There are also solicitors assisting both teams.How many Prosecutors are there?
- Nick J.
- Simon D.
- Philip A.
Anybody else?
Quite a numerous Team
Thanks.There are also solicitors assisting both teams.
Defence has three barristers also. Benjamin Myers, Michael Maher and Fiona Clancy.
I would guess - recording everything the witnesses are saying, so they probably need good and fast keyboard skills, and also maintaining the records, of which there will be trunk loads, in this case, to find records and exhibits that the barristers need to refer to. Running a tight ship basically, and of course passing notes from the defendant to the barristers.Thanks.
And what are solicitors' tasks?
"Running a tight ship" you say.Running a tight ship basically, and of course passing notes from the defendant to the barristers.
I certainly think there is room for a negative or positive attribute to her motive for asking the question. Why is one ok or not and why ask anyway? Especially when that sequence of conversation implies a want to know. Is that the entire conversation? Would be interesting to hear if she ever expressed frustration or anger at being talked about. If she doesn’t it would be difficult for me to distinguish between performance related worries and direct concerns about perceived actions."who told you?" seems a bit paranoid to me. Why should it matter to LL how her colleague who is at work heard about baby E having died? It's as if LL thinks it is about her and not the baby.
She did the same with baby G
LL: "Had rubbish nights. x"
JJ-K: "Yeah gathered. x"
LL: "Thought someone would have told you x.
The conversation turned to LL asking which of the team had informed JJ-K about the events of the night-shift.
'Thought someone would have told you' seems like fishing and when JJ-K doesn't give up the goods LL asks directly, so it seems she wanted to ask straight off but tried to disguise her interest at first.
I wouldn't call it veiled language, but not wanting her need to know to be obvious. IMO
I was just getting ready to post the same.The doctor replies at 00:12, saying: 'It's true. You are one of the few nurses across the region (I've worked pretty much everywhere) that I would trust with my own children. If you're worried – I'm worried. You should do the APNP (Advanced Paediatric Nurse Practitioner) course, you'd be excellent'.
In a second reference to his children, he adds: 'They're possibly a bit too big now'.
Letby responds: 'Don't know what to say. Thank you'.
The doctor: 'Self-doubt finished?'
Letby: 'I think so, thank you ++
Oh they weren't hypothetical children after all!
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Doctor told Lucy Letby she would trust her 'with my own children'
The doctor had become a friend to Lucy Letby (pictured) by the time the two shared a series of late-night messages in June 2016.www.dailymail.co.uk
"It's not you, it's the babies".![]()
Doctor told Lucy Letby she would trust her 'with my own children'
The doctor had become a friend to Lucy Letby (pictured) by the time the two shared a series of late-night messages in June 2016.www.dailymail.co.uk