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WHOA????? Is Leyby calling Dr Jayaram a liar when he claims she was in the room with Baby K when she was collapsing??>???12:26pm
The neonatal schedule for February 16-17 is shown to the court.
Letby is involved in the care of her two designated babies up to 12.30am, plus a baby in room 1 at 12.51am, 'assisting with cares'.
Letby cares for her designated babies up to 2am, and assists in the medication of a fourth baby at 2.04am and 2.14am.
The chart shows Letby's records with her designated babies up to 3.30am, when - at that time - observations are made and a feed given to one of the designated babies.
Letby says 3.30am would be a "rough time" of when it happened. The feed, observations, and a nappy change, could take half an hour - the quickest '20 minutes', the longest "up to an hour".
She says in this case, this could have taken "15-20 minutes".
Letby is asked if, by doing this, she had any reason to be in room 1 at that time. Letby says she would not have had a reason.
Letby is then recorded, on the neonatal schedule, as caring for Child K after the event has taken place. The first recorded activity is for morphine administration, with Joanne Williams signing for the medication and Letby being a co-signer. Letby says this was because Child K was being reintubated and required morphine.
She does not recall being called to the nursery room.
She does not recall being involved in the subsequent events for Child K.
Letby is asked about a Facebook search for the surname of Child K, made on April 20, 2018, at 11.56pm.
Letby says: "You still think of patients you've cared for."
She says she does not recall why she looked up the name at that point.
Letby says that night "was a busy shift" but, asked whether she had done anything that night to merit questions about it years later, Letby says: "No."
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Here is what Dr J says happened at the 3:50 am desaturation of Baby K:
Dr Jayaram is now being asked about Child K's desaturation at 3.50am.
Dr Jayaram said he was "happy" with how Child K was "very very settled", having had to make only minor adjustments to the ventilator settings.
An infusion chart for the morphine is shown to the court, with a start time of 3.50am. He confirms that 3.50am would be the time that would be administered.
Dr Jayaram says he was aware Joanne Williams was going to the labour ward to update the parents on Child K.
He said he was sitting at a desk, around the corner from the entrance to nursery room 1. He says he was writing in notes, or waiting for the transfer team to come back to him regarding arrangements.
He said he had been told Lucy Letby would be 'babysitting' at the time - a common term used by the hospital to describe a neonatal nurse temporarily looking after a baby in the absence of its designated nurse.
He says, at this point, in February 2016, he was aware of 'unexpected/unusual events' that had happened recently, and that Lucy Letby had been present.
He said: "I felt extremely uncomfortable [with Lucy Letby being there alone in the room with Child K]
"You can call me hysterical, completely irrational, but because of this association...
"This thought kept coming into my head. After two, two and a half minutes...I went to prove to myself that I was being ridiculous and irrational and got up.
"I think it was 2.5, 3 minutes after Jo had gone to the labour ward.
"I had not been called to review [Child K], I had not been called because alarms had gone off - I would have heard an alarm. I got up and walked through to see [Child K]."
Dr Jayaram entered nursery room 1 through the entrance doors closest to his desk. Child K was at the far side of the nursery room, with Lucy Letby present.
He said: "I saw Lucy Letby standing by the incubator. I saw her, and looked up at the monitor, and K's saturations were dropping, in the 80s and continued to drop. The ventilator was not giving out an alarm.
"I recall looking up and saying 'what's going on?' and Lucy said something along the lines of 'She's having a desaturation'."
Asked what Letby was doing, Dr Jayaram replied: "Nothing."
He says Letby didn't say anything to Dr Jayaram until he had walked over and he had asked her what was going on.
Dr Jayaram said he was looking at Child K. He disconnected the ventilator from the ET Tube and he tried to give breaths via the ET Tube, but Child K's chest was not moving.
He said he switched into 'professional mode' to resolve the situation, and it 'didnt make sense why the tube was dislodged'
He said he removed the tube - which wasn't blocked - and put a face mask to ventilate Child K. As soon as that was done, Child K's chest went up and down, without too much difficulty.
He says he does not remember anything else Lucy Letby said. He says he was probably telling her to bring equipment.
OKAY, SO IT SEEMS LIKE DR J IS PUTTING LETBY IN BABY K'S ROOM AT ABOUT 3:52 or 3:53, just as the collapse began?
But here is LL's testimony today about that ^^^^^same time period:
The chart shows Letby's records with her designated babies up to 3.30am, when - at that time - observations are made and a feed given to one of the designated babies.
Letby says 3.30am would be a "rough time" of when it happened. The feed, observations, and a nappy change, could take half an hour - the quickest '20 minutes', the longest "up to an hour".
She says in this case, this could have taken "15-20 minutes".
Letby is asked if, by doing this, she had any reason to be in room 1 at that time. Letby says she would not have had a reason.
Letby is then recorded, on the neonatal schedule, as caring for Child K after the event has taken place. The first recorded activity is for morphine administration, with Joanne Williams signing for the medication and Letby being a co-signer. Letby says this was because Child K was being reintubated and required morphine.
She does not recall being called to the nursery room.
She does not recall being involved in the subsequent events for Child K.
SO IS SHE DENYING SHE WAS IN THAT ROOM WHEN DR J WALKED IN AND FOUND BABY K COLLAPSING ?