UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #27

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If things happened the way he tells us there’s absolutely no way he would allow this to happen twice more, in front of him, it’s unbelievable. He would be watching her like a hawk', he said

Mr Myers notes that Dr Jayaram never called the police - despite seeing what he said he did - something he said was 'incredible'


Mr Myers says Dr Jayaram - and the other consultants who said they were concerned - didn't even fill out at Datix report on the incident. The medic said he 'wasn't convinced' Datix was 'the correct way to investigate' this'
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Mr Myers says the evidence in this case has 'no basis for attempted murder'

He now turns to the case of Child L. A twin boy born in early April 2016, Child L stabilised after treatment for mild low blood sugar and was moved to nursery one.

In the hours that followed Ms Letby's arrival on 9 April, Child L's glucose levels fell to abnormally low and he had to be given glucose in an attempt to correct hypoglycaemia.

The prosecution said blood tests revealed a very high level of insulin, which they said had been caused by the administering of synthetic insulin in a "deliberate act of sabotage" by Ms Letby.
 
12:03pm

Mr Myers says nurse Mary Griffiths had said there was a delay in podding the blood sample due to what happened with Child M.
He says it is a "point of contention" that the delay in processing the sample is "one thing to keep in mind" when processing the results.
He says apart from the "apparently" low blood sugar level, there was no ill effect observed on Child L, which he says is "extraordinary". He asks how that is evidence of poisoning.
He says the blood sugar level reading in the sample, was 2.8, a "relatively healthy reading". would be inconsistent with the insulin and insulin c-peptide. Professor Hindmarsh said it was a plasma reading, so would give a different blood sugar level reading than a heel prick, and it was said it would be more like '2.4'.
He says the heel prick tests showed a blood sugar level reading of 1.6 at noon. The ones at 3pm and 4pm are 1.5.
He says it does raise a question on the accuracy of the blood sugar readings.

12:19pm

The trial is resuming after a short break.
Mr Myers says there was one detail he had omitted before the break. He says at 3.40pm, bolus of 10% dextrose was administered for Child L. He says the prosecution says that would account for the higher blood glucose reading. He says the problem of a 1.5 [heel prick] reading at 4pm still remains, as does the 3pm 1.5 reading. He says it is difficult to work out what effect it would have.

12:30pm

He says Letby cannot have interfered with the bags in the way it is alleged.
He says the bags are changed during the 53 hours Child L was recorded to have low blood sugar readings, during which five bags were used. He says a number of bag changes took place for which Letby was not involved in.
He says the prosecution alleged Letby was 'setting up an issue' of hypoglycaemia for Child L. He says it does not follow as Child L would be a focus on blood sugar levels, and someone with harmful intent would not identify an issue that was going to be detected anyway. He says Letby would be drawing attention to it.
He says Child L's designated nurse was recorded on the neonatal schedule as being a co-signer for 9.25am-9.29am prescriptions. He says that is when the electronic prescriptions are inputted. He says Dr Ukoh would also be in room 1 that morning (where Child L and Child M are) as part of his ward round. He says there is no record of him outside of room 1 during the time Letby was alleged by the prosecution to administer insulin in Child L [about 9.30am].

12:39pm

Mr Myers says the theory Letby spiked the various bags with insulin is "contrived and arfiticial", and the mechanics of it are "unrealistic".
He asks how Letby could predict to add insulin to the dextrose bags in storage, which would be used for all babies on the unit, only for Child L.
He says the theory of 'sticky insulin' is "mixed". He says there is a lot of bag changes over 56 hours. Prof Hindmarsh was cross-examined about it, if the 'sticky insulin' would run out at some point. He said it would. He said over time, additional insulin would be required to maintain the levels [of low blood sugar levels].


12:41pm

Mr Myers says whatever the reason for Letby accumulating paperwork [at home] in the case of Child L, it does not provide sufficient evidence of an intent to harm the baby.


12:43pm

Mr Myers says Letby subsequently cared for Child L after April 9-11, and it is "utterly inconsistent" with someone wanting to target that child to harm or kill them.

12:47pm

Mr Myers refers to the case of Child M, and outlines the events that took place. He says it was established he was in a corner of room 1 on April 9, which "wasn't ideal" as the unit was busy.
He says Letby was "doing nothing" to harm Child M, and had participated in giving antibiotics 15 minutes prior.
He says Dr Evans and Dr Sandie Bohin had worked in a theory of how slowly air embolus could take effect. He says that theory is "unbelievable".

12:57pm

Mr Myers said Letby, on April 9, had other babies to look after that day, with their own issues.
He refers to a note by Mary Griffith on April 9 for Child M to say there was an underlying problem prior to the 4pm collapse.

1:00pm

He says by 3pm, Child M was made nil by mouth, and says it can be argued that was 'not a great direction of travel for him'.
He says if it is accepted that the 4pm event is a signficant escalation, it does not show Letby caused harm at that time.


 
1:44pm

The trial is now resuming after its lunch break.

1:48pm

Mr Myers is continuing to deliver the closing speech in the case of Child M.
He says air embolus was the mechanism proposed by medical experts as the reason for collapse.
He says Dr Evans and Dr Bohin referred to discolouration. He says the only witness for that was Dr Jayaram. He says the description is not made in the contemporaneous notes, as they were not there for Child A.

1:56pm

Mr Myers says none of the other staff, including Dr Ukoh, give a discolouration description for Child M.
He says Child M did make a good recovery, gradually, from the collapse.
He says the significant issue is Letby's last contact with Child M is when she is involved with administering antibiotics at 3.45pm, and if air has been administered at that time, he says it would not take 15-16 minutes to have effect. He says air embolus is fast acting.
He says the amount of air alleged to be administered in this case is 0.5ml. He says if there was an intention to kill, it would have been larger. He asks how someone would measure 0.5ml or calculate it. He says even a minute quantity would have a quick impact.
He says fortunately, neither twin of Child L or Child M appeared to have suffered harm as a consequence. He says the theory of air embolus is "utterly unrealistic" for Child M.

1:57pm

Mr Myers refers to the case of Child N, for which there are three counts alleged against Lucy Letby. He outlines the events for Child N, who had haemophilia.

2:01pm

Mr Myers says Professor Sally Kinsey said Child N was more likely to suffer a bleed from trauma than babies who do not have haemophilia, and the amount of blood would be larger.
Prof Kinsey had said the process of instrumentation had the potential to cause bleeding, such as a naso-gastric tube.
Mr Myers says the Countess of Chester Hospital did not have Factor 8 for Child N at birth.
He says for the first Child N event, for which it is alleged there was trauma and/or an air embolus, he asks if Letby was even there.

 
2:07pm

Mr Myers refers to Dr Jennifer Loughanne's note for the Child N event - 'asked to see - desat - unsettled - got upset - looked mottled, dusky, sats [down to 40%] [moved to] 100% O2

'On my arrival, 40% O2, screaming'.

Mr Myers says it is "plainly not an air embolus", disagreeing with Dr Evans.

He says Dr Bohin said it was a painful stimulus. He said there was no sign of injury or blood.

2:19pm

Mr Myers says both experts put "poor opinions" forward.
He refers to the first event of June 15, 2016, in the morning, at 7.15am.
He says there is no evidence of anyone seeing Letby coming in and causing harm to Child N.
He says the prosecution created the narrative Child N was sabotaged in advance the previous night by Letby before she left at the end of her shift.
He refers to nurse Jennifer Jones-Key's note for the June 14-15 shift. He says in evidence, Jennifer Jones-Key said Child N first deteriorated at 1am, and remained at that condition through the rest of the night. Mr Myers says that "is an end to the sabotage theory", as Child N became unwell several hours into that night shift.

2:24pm

Mr Myers says Dr Bohin did not accept that from 1am to 7.15am, there had been a gradual process of deterioration.
He refers to the 7.15am event. He says Jennifer Jones-Key referred to more desaturations 'from 7am'. He say she remembered being in the nursery, feeding a baby, and Letby came in for her shift, and Letby came into the nursery, the alarm sounds, and Letby walks over.
He says there is "no indication or sensible opportunity" for Letby to cause this collapse for Child N. He says it is a continuation of the "mounting problems" for Child N which began at 1am.

2:29pm

Mr Myers says there is a question for when the blood is seen on Child N, before or after intubation. He says it is hard to see that if the attack happened at 7.15am, that blood would only be seen by a doctor at 8.05am.

2:35pm

Mr Myers says it would be "reckless" if a doctor embarked on intubation for Child N while seeing there was blood in the way.

2:39pm

Mr Myers refers to the third count for Child N, later in the day at 2.56pm on June 15, 2016.
He says the details of the event are clear, and while most of the five or six doctors described swelling, 'only' Dr Satyanarayana Saladi noted blood. He says it is right that a 3ml blood aspirate is collected. He says the defence observe it's surprising, given Child N's haemophilia, there is not more.
He says it is "unclear" what the cause of the swelling is, and could be a consequence of what had gone on that morning.

2:49pm

Mr Myers says there are no signs of a wound found on Child N, and he was "well inspected" by doctors.
He says at 7.40pm, Child N desaturated when medical personnel arrived to transport him, and he was prepared for theatre as doctors had been unable to intubate. Mr Myers says it was not surprising Child N's condition was poor given the 'long day' he had had.
He says a tertiary unit doctor was able to intubate first time successfully after Child N's desaturation.
Alder Hey consultant anaesthetist Dr Francis Potter was asked to give evidence. Mr Myers said he had told the court his interest was paediatric intensive care, and he had experience with airway problem resolution. He said the intubation was managed with 'relative ease'. He said Dr Potter had been "surprised" there had been difficulties in intubating Child N as he said the Countess of Chester Hospital team was "pretty competent".
He says Dr Bohin "comes to the rescue [of the prosecution]" by not agreeing with the opinion of Dr Potter. He said Dr Bohin said the drugs given to Child N would have reduced the swelling. He said it was a disagreement between the two prosecution witnesses.


2:51pm

Mr Myers says he will begin the case of Child O in the remaining 10 minutes [to be continued tomorrow]. He outlines the events for Child O.

2:59pm

Child O was one of three triplet brothers - Child P being another of the triplets.
Mr Myers says he will start with June 22-23, for the night shift with designated nurse Sophie Ellis. The final note 'Abdo looks full slightly loopy. Appeared uncomfortable after feed.Reg Mayberry reviewed. abdo soft, does not appear in any discomfort on examination.'
He says an examination took place, but no note was made by Dr Mayberry
He asks why Letby is blamed for Child N being unwell at 1am after Letby had finished at 8pm the previous night, whereas for Child O Letby is blamed for Child O being unwell at 1pm when Child O had been unwell at 8am.
He asks why there was no record of a doctor's examination after Sophie Ellis had noted a doctor reviewed Child O, when Letby was blamed for noting a doctor review for Child I when there was no record of a doctor's examination.

I assume this is where today ends! I don’t usually post these, but today is the first day I’ve not just followed along in the thread which is a testament to all of you that have committed to posting these updates daily! I figured as I had to go to the standard to read them I might as well post them for thread continuity.

 
Is anyone being swayed at all by the defence closing? It's so hard for me to remember what the prosecution actually said about the timings of some of these cases, and how they contradict what the defence is saying. Hopefully the judge will summarise what each side said so you can see the differing accounts side by side.

Is it true what Myers said about child J suddenly desaturating in a serious way out of nowhere when Letby wasn't around? I hadn't heard that before I don't think. What did the prosecution say about it?
 
What a performance from BM. Bloke must be knackered. I suppose that was the whole point of his approach. He intentionally didn’t bother with any experts who could be cross-examined and undermined by the prosecution, just went for an extremely passionate and didactic closing full of supposition and conjecture… I wonder if extremely relentless and persuasive summing up is his special skill or something.

IMO I’m not convinced, but I am worn down by him, and I’m assuming that feeling is X100 for those present in court.
 
I'm hoping the jury each had a good idea of their conclusions at the end of the evidence stage.

And I'm Really hoping the judge will give them concise direction on each case

Obviously the gig isn't up until the jury return their verdict but I can honestly say that as someone who joined this forum with a firm view that LL was taking a hit for chronic hospital failings and staff dysfunction (aka the scapegoat theory), having tracked this case more or less every day, I know 100% what my view now is and no amount of blether from BM would shift it. So I imagine that the jury have reached their own conclusions over time when the actual experts spoke and court admissible evidence was being presented.

Cannot imagine what level of fatigue the jury must be at by now. The very idea that they should return to their 'normal' jobs after this seems even abusive. They need respite surely? Anyway I've drifted but here's hoping for this to stop soon for everyone's sake. JMO MOO IANAL
 
I'm hoping the jury each had a good idea of their conclusions at the end of the evidence stage.

And I'm Really hoping the judge will give them concise direction on each case


The judge is going to have to explain the insulin levels at the very least I would have thought. It's not a difference of opinion. Either the levels for Baby L were higher than for Baby F and so high the test couldn't record any higher...or they weren't. The jurors need to know which it is.

I would have so many questions at this point were I a juror. Namely on what basis is Myers disagreeing with the medical experts. He says they're wrong/it's not possible... based on what?

I'm assuming that Johnson is relying on the jurors reacting in a similar way to many here. With each juror noticing which of Myers' claims are at odds with the explanations they've heard from witnesses (including medical experts) and which questions Myers is still asking despite the fact they have already been answered during cross examination. Johnson may well be hoping that once the jurors get to discuss the case and compare notes, there will be so many examples that it will cast doubt on all of Myers' claims.

JMO
 
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