GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #4

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Generalising here. I think people often forget that in most cases we only get told a fraction of what the police know. Then they assume that because something hasn't been reported, it didn't happen. Some things are so routine that they don't get mentioned, which leads to questions like "Why haven't they done house-to-house enquiries?" or "Why haven't they checked xyz?" when the fact is that these things have been done, and the results not made public.

People also lose sight of the fact that the police are not obliged to tell us everything, or indeed anything. I think this will turn out to be a fairly simple case with no sensational or bizarre reasons behind it. Only one person has been charged with murder, no one else seems to be suspected of involvement in the murder itself.
 
Confirmation from A&S Site

A further four people have been charged in connection with the Becky Watts investigation.

Karl Demetrius, 29, Donovan Demetrius, also 29, Jaydene Parsons, 23, all of Barton Court, Bristol and James Ireland, 23, of Richmond Villas, Avonmouth, have all been charged with assisting an offender.

They have been remanded in custody and are due before Bristol Magistrates’ Court this afternoon (06/03).

The fifth person - a 23 year old man who was also arrested on Monday 2nd March, has been released without charge.
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https://www.avonandsomerset.police....connection-with-the-becky-watts-investigation
 
Busy day at court on March 26 then !
 
Wow - guess police didn't believe the whole "I've found this in my back garden story. .
 
Wallace said:
Perhaps you missed some of the stuff being posted yesterday.

There was some quite comically tangential stuff coming out.

Extrapolation of zero facts can have some quite interesting results especially when people appear to be smoking the good stuff. [emoji573]
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For what it's worth, I agree with you.

Murder is normally tragic, simple and obvious.
 
ChuckieD said:
To be fair, the 'I post disturbing things' is really not disturbing at all if you look at the page, it's the usual click-bait crap most groups share but nothing disturbing at all that I saw. I just looked at the 'caught having sex' - only briefly cos my daughter came downstairs but again, that just looks like people getting caught having sex in awkward places and treated humourously in the usual FB fashion along with the usual 'you'll never believe what happened next' type posts. I see nothing eyebrow raising about either really.
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Scanning the 'likes' the 2 stood out to me, I didn't look at the pages. The photo for the caught having sex was inappropriate IMO, naked women in sexual positions has no place on FB, again, JMO! That's all I meant by raise an eyebrow
 
Cherwell said:
Generalising here. I think people often forget that in most cases we only get told a fraction of what the police know. Then they assume that because something hasn't been reported, it didn't happen. Some things are so routine that they don't get mentioned, which leads to questions like "Why haven't they done house-to-house enquiries?" or "Why haven't they checked xyz?" when the fact is that these things have been done, and the results not made public.

People also lose sight of the fact that the police are not obliged to tell us everything, or indeed anything. I think this will turn out to be a fairly simple case with no sensational or bizarre reasons behind it. Only one person has been charged with murder, no one else seems to be suspected of involvement in the murder itself.
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I guess it is difficult for someone outside the UK to understand the way our system works. In the US it seems common in some states for the media to be fed an incredible amount of detail almost real time. Not sure how they can ever have a fair trial. I don't know if anyone followed the Scott Peterson case but night after night Fox New slated his character. Whether he was guilty or not there can't have been a single jury member that didn't believe he did it before the trial even started.

I too don't understand why people presume something hasn't been done because the press didn't tell us. Especially when it's something that is routine procedure. These are experienced murder investigation team detectives. This is not a random collection of people who have never done this before. By all means criticise them (based on actual facts) when they **** up but don't invent things.
 
skibaboo said:
Scanning the 'likes' the 2 stood out to me, I didn't look at the pages. The photo for the caught having sex was inappropriate IMO, naked women in sexual positions has no place on FB, again, JMO! That's all I meant by raise an eyebrow
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It is inappropriate, I agree but it just reminded me of pages like where people are pictured messed up in nightclubs with puke all over them etc. Groups like that generate thousands of likes from young people so it didn't ring any sort of alarm bells to me once I'd actually checked the content that NM liked them.
 
Wallace said:
I guess it is difficult for someone outside the UK to understand the way our system works. In the US it seems common in some states for the media to be fed an incredible amount of detail almost real time. Not sure how they can ever have a fair trial. I don't know if anyone followed the Scott Peterson case but night after night Fox New slated his character. Whether he was guilty or not there can't have been a single jury member that didn't believe he did it before the trial even started.

I too don't understand why people presume something hasn't been done because the press didn't tell us. Especially when it's something that is routine procedure. These are experienced murder investigation team detectives. This is not a random collection of people who gave never done this before. By all means criticise them (based on actual facts) when the **** up but don't invent things.
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Couldn't agree with you more, on both points.
 
Wallace said:
Do we actually know that he claimed that?

I saw the photo of him in camouflage gear but that could have been bought from Army Surplus or eBay to play paint balling or airsoft.

Really not trying to defend this guy, just asking a genuine question.
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He did list it as his occupation ...... along with Pizza delivery person
 
Wallace:

Sorry, feel I have to rectify my post. From Daily Mail
An acquaintance, who did not wish to be named, told Bristol Post " He is quite a reserved guy and has good discipline from his time in the Army"

Whether true or not.
 
I'm intrigued as to how anyone goes about raising this subject (helping dispose of remains) with friends. Especially with friends who, to all outwardly intents and purposes didn't seem to to know NM/SH all that well or for all that long..
 
skibaboo said:
Is this aimed at my 'wild theory'? If so I did say it was wild. Don't appreciate the mocking, personally I would never do that.
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I don't think it was necessarily aimed at you skibs. I for one saw posts about serial killers and cults yesterday which made me think ????? There's absolutely no evidence to support that..
 
Alyce said:
He did list it as his occupation ...... along with Pizza delivery person
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Perhaps he had some kind of civilian post working for the army at some point, his profile didn't specify he was a soldier (I agree it could be implied).
 
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Becky Watts: Four More People Charged

Four more people have been charged in connection with the murder of teenager Becky Watts.

Karl Demetrius and Donovan Demetrius, both 29, along with Jaydene Parsons, 23, all of Barton Court, Bristol, have been charged with assisting an offender.

James Ireland, 23, of Richmond Villas, Avonmouth, faces the same charge.

They have been remanded in custody and are due before Bristol Magistrates' Court this afternoon.

A fifth person, who was arrested on Monday, has been released without charge.
 
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