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badhorsie said:
From HFM a few years ago
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FEAST YOUR EYES
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Please tell me you didn't just take this down from your bedroom wall!
 
what i can gather the 4th possible former soap star been accused after the itv story on Jimmy Savile who is currently alive maybe either Bobby Davro or Bradley Walsh as the article in the telegraph speaking to a itv producer suggesting it was a former light entertainer who then became a soap star who is no longer on a soap opera as i cannot think of any others.....
 
[video=youtube;aJtLsKtGCSY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJtLsKtGCSY&feature=player_embedded[/video]


And something else to watch.Watch from 36 mins in
 
Have you noticed when news of the world was forced to close down due to hacking not much was mentioned by bskyb and sky news yet alone the times/sunday times and the sun newspapers concerning reporters getting arrested for it but when jimmy saville business comes up the bbc have no issue in reporting the news on tv or on its website/ radio so aunty bbc is not scared of publicity while rupert murdoch is
 
JIMMY Savile or William Joyce, the wartime Lord Haw Haw – which of them United Kingdom’s most despised DJ?

When Lord Haw Haw signed off, his last braadcast went:

“We are nearing the end of phase one in Europe’s history, but the next will be no happier…I can only say that the people of Britain deserve what they get… You may not hear from me again for a few months…I say ‘Es lebe Deutschland! Heil Hitler! And farewell!’”

Jimmy Savile’s last words are not recorded, which is odd for man whose life was dedicated to talking. No word of thanks to the British Jewellery Association, who once made Jimmy Savile their Male Jewellery Wearer of the Year. No word for Mensa, who used to features Savile’s name on their list of famous members.
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http://www.anorak.co.uk/336446/cele...-words-for-fellow-hated-dj-lord-haw-haw.html/

more at the link
 
In August 1988, shortly before the publication of a highly critical report into its operating procedures, the entire management board of Broadmoor secure psychiatric hospital was suspended by the Department of Health, which at the time had joint responsibility for its direct management.

The running of Broadmoor, the highest-profile facility of its kind in the country and the home to many of Britain's most notorious criminals, was placed in the temporary control of a "taskforce", according to reports at the time, to be headed up by a somewhat unexpected figure.

It was Jimmy Savile, the then 61-year-old TV presenter, charity fundraiser and national eccentric. "There's nothing that can't be solved," he told an approving Sunday Times reporter at the time of his appointment, stabbing the air with his trademark cigar for emphasis.

"It is the simple 'fix it' attitude he brings to all areas of his life," noted the interviewer, adding that six months later, it would fall to Savile to appoint the first general manager to be responsible for the day-to-day running of the hospital.

From Guardian

This is ludicrous beyond belief. Heads should roll and think themselves lucky that they are not on stakes outside the Tower
 
opalsqueak63 said:
Hi all.

Where did this picture come from?
I cannot believe for a minute that Frank Bruno would shake hands with Peter Sutcliffe, one of the most disgusting and depraved serial killers in UK history.
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Hi all

I was wrong. This picture is genuine and Frank Bruno's website confirms that he did visit to open a gym and issued a statement about this picture a while ago. http://www.frankbruno.co.uk/listman/exec/search.cgi?view=84&template=_publish_news.html

it appears Jimmy Savile introduced them.
 
Skigh said:
It is Savile's relation ship with with peter sutcliffe which is interesting.

Was Salvile involved in any of the Yorkshire ripper killings?
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I don't see any reason to assume that. Its more telling about Savile's mentality that he thought Sutcliffe was an appropriate person to introduce to his celebrity visitor.
 
Cappuccino said:
I don't see any reason to assume that. Its more telling about Savile's mentality that he thought Sutcliffe was an appropriate person to introduce to his celebrity visitor.
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There are many people on different forums questioning whether Savile could be involved.

An example:

Jimmy Savile. Concidences? Surely they must be.
It is interesting how many coincidences you can see if you only look for them. Why was Jimmy Savile keen to fix it for the Yorkshire Ripper to shake hands witha Frank Bruno? I wonder how this occurred. What did Peter Sutcliffe say to Jimmy that would make Jimmy do something that was bound to create such a cloud of negative publicity? The human mind can find patterns anywhere even if there is no substance to create such a pattern. It is one of the talents that helped us evolve. It is probably just coincidence when a star who is accused of heinous crimes does nice things for a criminal accused of heinous crimes. It is probably just coincidence that one of Sutcliffe’s teenage victims had her body discovered in Savile Park, Halifax. It must be very unlikely that it just appealed to the sense of humour of a man that did heinous things in front of the world and was laughing because he felt that nobody could ever catch him or accuse him. I am certain that conspiracy theories could be built upon flimsy coincidences like these.

BBC: When Louis Met Jimmy Savile – Zero Tolerance! I have noticed that a great many people who have been coming to the blog today have not been watching the Zero Tolerance video here. It is a scary video in that it is simply showing Jimmy’s own words about his time as a dance hall manager in leads. For those who do not wish to click through I shall describe what he says. Jimmy worked in the dance hall in the early 60s, around the time that Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper was a teenager. I have seen no evidence that Sutcliffe went to this dance hall but it is another coincidence that when Jimmy was sleeping with all these teenage girls it was around the same time that Sutcliffe was a teenager of about the same age, living in the same area. In this video from a show by Louis Theroux the cameraman has been left with Savile after Theroux has retired for the evening. I do not think Savile realises that the camera is still rolling.

Savile describes how he operated a Zero Tolerance policy. He never called the police if there were trouble makers in the club, he didn’t even throw them out. Savile says he would tie them up and leave them in the boiler room until he was ready for them around 3 or 4am. He describes himself as being, “judge, jury and executioner.” He says that he used to have trouble with the police but he didn’t care. They would complain that he had been too heavy handed with his victims bu he would say to the Police, ”Your daughter comes in here. She’s 16. She’s not supposed to come into town but she does and she comes here. I presume you would like me to look after her. If you don’t want me to look after her, tell me and I’ll let those dirty slags do whatever they want with her.” He goes on to tell the camera man, “I never got nicked, he he he he he.” These are his words. Said by him. On video.

I did not know much about Jimmy Savile but after seeing the video above I thought that it would be far too much coincidence to discover after finding a connection with the Yorkshire ripper that Jimmy had a personal connection with Yorkshire. I hypothesised that if there was a connection then Jimmy would have a connection and if this was so then my hypothesis would be backed up. Apparently the nightclubs in which Sir Jimmy says he was judge, jury and executioner were in Yorkshire. I wonder if Peter Sutcliffe enjoyed the nightlife. I will have to go and check dates now and see if there is any correlation.

So apparently Peter Sutcliffe was around 15 at the time when Jimmy Saville was running ballrooms and allegedly sleeping with 15 year olds in Leeds. Leeds of course being the place that Peter Sutcliffe began his string of murders years later.

Apparently as a boxer in his youth Jimmy said he broke every bone in his body and loved it. It seems to me that only a psychopath would love it if they were breaking every bone in their body. Psychopaths are often considered to be very intelligent. Perhaps they might be clever enough to join MENSA. Jimmy was a MENSA member coincidentally. So many coincidences. If it turned out that there was anything else that made him appear to have any odd similarities with any psychopathic killers it would all seem far too much. I wonder how people would interpret it if he were to be overly close with his mother. Perhaps he might live with her and refer to her as the Duchess. Perhaps on her passing he might keep her room exactly as it was during her lifetime and perhaps he might have her clothes dry cleaned once a year for her even after she had gone. That would be more than a little suspicious on top of everything else wouldn’t it. It would also be apparently true according to some sources.

One could imagine that a paedophile who worked in hospitals might possibly be there for victims in addition to generating good will but why would a paedophile volunteer at Broadmoor. I suppose it is possible that he might have old friends there or perhaps he might wish to pave the way for if he might be forced to have new friends there.

Any other bizarre coincidences would really make a person think. Like if during the time that Jimmy was the honorary president of PHAB (physically handicapped in the able bodies community) and volunteering to work in hospitals this was also the period when Sutcliffe’s victim Vera Millward turned up dead in the grounds of Manchester Royal Infirmary.

One would certainly have to wonder if Sutcliffe and Savile were connected. If they were might they even exchange gifts on birthdays. What sort of gifts would you give in such a situations. If two people had such macabre attitudes in common what would they do to celebrate each other’s birthdays? Naturally it must be another in a long string of coincidences that sees Sutcliffe’s first successful murder taking place the day before Jimmy’s birthday. It is easy to see how conspiracy theories build up out of all these patterns.

Edit: Although I have written this from the measured point of view that the human mind sees patterns even where it is simply coincidence that the patterns appear to exist, there does appear to be something far stranger and darker about Jimmy Savile than we have seen so far. I did the research above last night with a few perfunctory unbiased Google searches on Savile and Sutcliffe. When I awoke this morning I started doing searches targeted to specifically uncover information that might suggest Savile was darker than we have so far understood. According to my searches there are a lot of people out there who have spotted not just my coincidences above but a lot of other circumstantial evidence that does point towards Savile being a figure that actually makes this last week’s news seem very tame.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jimmy-savile-and-serial-killer.html
 
You'll find lots of things on the internet, don't make it true. Is there any evidence that Savile and Sutcliffe even knew each other before Sutcliffe was incarcerated in Broadmoor?
 
The head of the Metropolitan Police Service investigation into Jimmy Savile has said abuse allegations span six decades and could involve 60 victims.

Commander Peter Spindler, who leads the MPS Specialist Crime Investigations branch, said: "We can now confirm that we have received information from the public that suggests allegations against Jimmy Savile span six decades with reports starting in 1959 up to and including 2006.

"Having now had the opportunity to review progress one week on I have revised my estimate of the number of likely victims to be about 60.

"Once again I want to thank those who have come forward and reassure them, and everyone else who contacts us, they will be listened to."
 
@Skigh - you appear to have forgotten to add that Savile kept "The Duchess'" ie his mum's remains in the house for 5 days after she died! Also he mentioned in his autobiography that he liked to take his breaks from his voluntary porter work in hospitals in the mortuary, where he would "smoke cigars and ponder about life and death". A normal person would quickly get bored of the mortuary after the initial morbid curiosity, plus it would be a low-temperature and uncomfortable place to casually lumber about, therefore he must have really wanted to go in there for some reason.

Necrophilia is much rarer than paedophilia. Even nonces probably think that they're disgusting. It's really sinister. As is his mother-worship - it makes me think of Psycho and Ed Gein. There have been way too many rumours and stories of Savile's mortuary frequents, dating back years when everyone thought he was still a legend, for them all to be total fabrications. What would anyone have to gain by making up such tales - let alone loads of people individually saying the same things about his corpse love.
 
I was a young professional dancer for a brief time. In 1991, I was in a final night performance in the North of England, and Savile was in the audience and asked to meet me back stage. (Me, not the whole cast). I was very excited as I idolised him for all his charity work.

My manager and agent ( call him T - now dead) immediately said "We're leaving" dragging me out to his car, and told me that Savile could not be trusted around "young people". I was quite cross and didn't understand what he was talking about.

Before my manager T died, and long after my short career was over, we met up again and became friends. I questioned him about that previous event. He told me that Savile had friends "at the very top" and in criminal circles, and could do what he wanted. I thought it was ridiculous and told him so.

Now I am seriously wondering if he was right - I mean - Savile had HIS OWN KEYS at Broadmoor? On whose say so? Why was he able to do whatever he wanted at the BBC and the LGI and who was protecting him? I am starting to think there was some sort of conspiracy.
 
Cappuccino said:
I don't see any reason to assume that. Its more telling about Savile's mentality that he thought Sutcliffe was an appropriate person to introduce to his celebrity visitor.
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And even more telling that he sought out the criminally insane and downright evil as friends.

Birds of a feather...
 
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