US - Shots fired at Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania as former president is seen with blood across his face, 13 July 2024

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I hope counseling is made available to all attendees of events involving public shootings.

Do campaign events matter more than concerts or classrooms or shopping malls or church services?

Seeing people bloodied — and children torn into bloody lumps — is traumatic.

That said, I’ve come to believe that the images of the aftermath should be shared and shared widely like this one is. We’re all fortunate that former Pres. Trump is still on this earth.

MOO.
I don't disagree that counseling could be very helpful to people who witnessed or experienced the kind of violence that happened yesterday. But who would provide the services? How would costs be covered?

Our nation doesn't have a good track record with providing mental health care. Many people suffer because of that. :(

jmo
 
I have been wondering that all day. You can clearly see him line up his shot, lean back for a brief moment, then fire after the shooter fired first.
He lined up his shot then quickly looked up above his scope, then quickly lined up and shot. I think he was ready to shoot then he saw the local LE climb up over the roof, looked an instant above the scope, then took out the shooter when local LE dropped below the roof line. The local LE was probably directly behind shooter. JMO from watching it over and over.
 
I think that ladder was already there. It may even be affixed to the building.
I've been trying to see behind those arborvitae for a while now using Google maps and unable to see a ladder. So, after looking closely at @MassGuy's photo, it seems to me like what I call a tree ladder. Narrower at the top than the at the bottom. I drew lines to show you the angle of the sides that I see. Due to that IMO I feel like the shooter either brought the ladder there X hours/days before, and hid it behind the arborvitae... or perhaps he just got "lucky" and the ladder was left there from someone working on the roof.

It's also a guess on my part that that is the ladder that LE is said to have climbed to look on the roof before retreated back down.

A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer then retreated down the ladder


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Here's a link to the map of the building so you can "drive" back and forth to try to see behind those bushes: Google Maps
 
Very long, very detailed article. It appears they were very few secret service at the event. Teams were "filled" my local law enforcement.

I wonder if they treat the president, vice President, and visiting dignitaries events the same way? The same law applies to all.

The rooftop where a gunman shot at former President Donald Trump during a campaign rally was identified by the U.S. Secret Service as a potential vulnerability in the days before the event, two sources familiar with the agency’s operations told NBC News.

....The Secret Service was aware of the risks associated with it, the sources said.
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The Secret Service had designated that rooftop under the jurisdiction of local law enforcement, .....
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Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger said his office maintains an Emergency Services Unit team that deployed four sniper teams and four “quick response teams” at the rally. But he said the Secret Service agents were in charge of security outside of the venue.
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Guglielmi, the Secret Service spokesman, said the agency had two of its counterassault agents at the event and filled out the rest of the platoon with at least six officers from Butler County tactical units. The Secret Service also deployed two countersniper teams. Two other security units needed for the event were staffed by local law enforcement agencies, Guglielmi said. Those details were first reported by The Washington Post.
I would like to know how the Secret Service briefed and coordinated with local LE for this event.

Did they go into detail about what each agency's responsibilities were and how best to accomplish their goals? Was interagency communications worked out in advance so everyone would be immediately notified of any potential threat and what the response should be?

JMO.
 
[…]


Max R. Smith recalled taking an American history course with Crooks as a sophomore. He did recall Crooks making political statements — but they shed no light on his actions Saturday.

“He definitely was conservative,” he said. “It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Smith recalled a mock debate in which their history professor posed government policy questions and asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for a given proposal.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

[…]

 
[…]


Max R. Smith recalled taking an American history course with Crooks as a sophomore. He did recall Crooks making political statements — but they shed no light on his actions Saturday.

“He definitely was conservative,” he said. “It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Smith recalled a mock debate in which their history professor posed government policy questions and asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for a given proposal.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

[…]

Trump and the current GOP are not "conservative" wrt the historical definition of the term. Perhaps TC was of the more traditional mindset. But he might also be just a very confused young man without any well-defined opinions.
 
Is the ladder one already attached to the building so maintenance workers or such can access the roof? Can you see the ladder there in earlier photos?
I can't see a ladder on Google maps and I went up and down the parking lot using the tool. This image was captured in Nov 2023.

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Here's the link to the map to see for yourself: Google Maps
 
It didn't fall on deaf ears because an officer did respond and climbed up there. I have a feeling there were some communications problems on site between Secret Service and local or state LE. Secret Service does this type of specialized work every day, local LE doesn't. It's out of their usual type of policing.

I've been tuned in to Pittsburg KDKA/CBS today and learned the officer who first responded to the roof was met with TC turned and aiming his weapon at the officer. After surveying the scene, the officer made the decision to provide the coordinates and details to the sniper team. I agree, this did not fall on deaf ears!

 
He lined up his shot then quickly looked up above his scope, then quickly lined up and shot. I think he was ready to shoot then he saw the local LE climb up over the roof, looked an instant above the scope, then took out the shooter when local LE dropped below the roof line. The local LE was probably directly behind shooter. JMO from watching it over and over.
Except the one article claimed the shooter aimed his rifle at the LE officer as he appeared on the roof… so wouldn’t the shooter than have to reposition himself and his gun and aim again, perhaps taking another 30 seconds or so?
 
[…]


Max R. Smith recalled taking an American history course with Crooks as a sophomore. He did recall Crooks making political statements — but they shed no light on his actions Saturday.

“He definitely was conservative,” he said. “It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Smith recalled a mock debate in which their history professor posed government policy questions and asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for a given proposal.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

[…]

At this point, I don't think the motive was political.

jmopinion
 
[…]


Max R. Smith recalled taking an American history course with Crooks as a sophomore. He did recall Crooks making political statements — but they shed no light on his actions Saturday.

“He definitely was conservative,” he said. “It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Smith recalled a mock debate in which their history professor posed government policy questions and asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for a given proposal.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

[…]



This article answers the question as to any post-secondary education:

"He graduated from the Community College of Allegheny County two months ago, earning an associate degree in engineering science, school officials said in a statement to the New York Times, saying they were “shocked and saddened by the horrific turn of events.”
 
This article answers the question as to any post-secondary education:

"He graduated from the Community College of Allegheny County two months ago, earning an associate degree in engineering science, school officials said in a statement to the New York Times, saying they were “shocked and saddened by the horrific turn of events.”
He just graduated? Life was his oyster - what in the world happened???

jmo
 
I've been wondering about this. Has anyone heard any follow up?
Pittsburg CBS/KDKA news broadcast provided explosives located in TC's vehicle and home but did not go into details. We also know ATF evacuated two square blocks of his neighborhood in the middle of the night to sweep for bombs but understandably have provided no details if they detonated and devises at home or elsewhere. This investigation, less than 24 hours old, is in its infancy! MOO
 
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