Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #3

[Seattle1]

Jeremy Harris‏Verified account @JeremyHarrisTV
“We were able to feel the love of so many people, most of whom we have never met.” - spokesperson Jill Parker reading a statement on behalf of #LizzyShelley family.

4:06 PM - 29 May 2019

 

[Bravo]

Death penalty off the table-

I'm happy and suspected so. Main thing was for Lizzy to be found. He will go away forever.

 

[Bravo]

I think this is just the beginning of what we will learn anout AW.

It always is

 

[MsMarple]

As we all predicted, Lizzy was found near the home and AW talked when the DP was taken off the table.

AW's interests are all about himself, no remorse or concern for his innocent victim. Freakin' sociopath.

 

[oviedo]

Yes. It's very hard to see reality when it's your own family. Or someone you know very well. Even if they have "issues." Unless they've shown a previous propensity I think for most it's super hard to imagine a loved family member could harm a child.

But if we set up rules for ourselves we can protect our kids:

Keep dating life separate from our families.

If you meet someone you really like, do a background check. It's about $50.00. Then, if they pass, date them for at least a year before you allow them to meet the kids.

Agree that no moving in, engagement or anything like that for at least another year or so. Really get to know them and their life and family and see how they interact. But don't let them babysit or be alone with your kids during this time.

For family, does brother, uncle, in-law, grandpa have a drug or alcohol issue? Violent behavior in their past? A criminal history that's more than infractions? Significant mental health issues? Socialization problems?

Don't leave your kids alone with them. Don't let them spend the night.

We can create logical checklists and follow them.

This is the post thank you

 

[lucylulu]

Jeremy Harris from KUTV- said live- search teams are kicking themselves -they were feet from the body during the search

 

[Bugurl747]

Death penalty is off the table, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is placed on suicide watch and eventually succeeds.

MOO

 

[Bravo]

Jeremy Harris from KUTV- said live- search teams are kicking themselves -they were feet from the body during the search

I always feel so bad for them when this happens. They tried and tried so hard.

 

[oviedo]

Per Police Chief, AW had no connection to the property where body located.

That means it was not a grandparent home - good

 

[Ebeccare]

@Backstroke10 No worries. I make mistakes all the time.

 

[gitana1]

Not sure what this has to do with this case. Lizzy was killed by her uncle, not Mom's bf.

I can't blame them for the mistake, frankly.

 

[Knox]

You’re so right about how a person and siblings and parents see things differently. I had a patient, who on admission, told us that he was abandoned by his mother during most of his childhood.

During a session with patient’s mother, it was asked if she abounded her son.

She told us that she definitely DID not. Ever!! She told us her son as a toddler played in his playpen all day while she was right there ironing, seeing and watching her soaps.

She said as he got older, she had a hard time forming a mother-son relationship because she just didn’t like “boy stuff”. Unlike with her daughter, with whom she had a close relationship.

So even though she didn’t actually and physically “abandon” her son, this patient perceived his mother’s behavior towards him as abandonment.

Kinda sounds like she did!!

 

[Seattle1]

I made a mistake.


I made a mistake.

@Backstroke10 - if too late to edit, you can also self report your post to Mod if this makes it easier. Heavy cases - easy to confuse.

 

[Stunned]

How did they not find her?

She’s little. Curled up under brush? Don’t know. I’m sure they are in agony over missing her!

 

[Cyber sleuth]

Of course we now get the excuses

Gitana1 analyzes this type perfectly. Sounds like typical addict behavior- most addicts come from a place of childhood hurt.
Wound collector. No personal responsibility, no guilt, only entitlement. Woe is me and all that.
The drugs and alcohol that were whispering sweet nothings of pain relief only led him further into hurt-and almost guided LE to his evil act!

I hope one day he sees it and truly makes amends

I get it, and I can’t say I disagree, but some people have a blind spot when it comes to family.

She just never imagined that her brother would do something like this.

Another role family members of addicts ( enabler). And yes a blind spot from her rearing. This is why it is so so important that those affected by addicts learn boundaries and how to stop the cycle.
I’ll step off my soap box now.

 

[TTF14]

Jeremy Harris from KUTV- said live- search teams are kicking themselves -they were feet from the body during the search

Awwww, it wouldn't have saved her, though . But, maybe death penalty could still be on the table.

 

[Backstroke10]

It's ok, we are all allowed

Lol thanks!!

If u only knew of some of my boo boos. It's all good.

Thank you! Needless to say I feel like a complete idiot now, so thank you!!!

I apologize to everyone for derailing this thread with a completely irrelevant comment, on such a sad day for little Elizabeth and her family. As MassGuy eluded to, I’m not sure this UNCLE is even human. MOO

 

[smucklecrumble]

Death penalty is off the table, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is placed on suicide watch and eventually succeeds.

MOO

I’m not sure about that. He wants to live enough that DP prompted him to disclose the burial site.

I think he sees this as everyone’s fault but his.

 

[Backstroke10]

@Backstroke10 - if too late to edit, you can also self report your post to Mod if this makes it easier. Heavy cases - easy to confuse.

Omg great idea! Thank you!!!!!!

 

[oviedo]

Yes. It's very hard to see reality when it's your own family. Or someone you know very well. Even if they have "issues." Unless they've shown a previous propensity I think for most it's super hard to imagine a loved family member could harm a child.

But if we set up rules for ourselves we can protect our kids:

Keep dating life separate from our families.

If you meet someone you really like, do a background check. It's about $50.00. Then, if they pass, date them for at least a year before you allow them to meet the kids.

Agree that no moving in, engagement or anything like that for at least another year or so. Really get to know them and their life and family and see how they interact. But don't let them babysit or be alone with your kids during this time.

For family, does brother, uncle, in-law, grandpa have a drug or alcohol issue? Violent behavior in their past? A criminal history that's more than infractions? Significant mental health issues? Socialization problems?

Don't leave your kids alone with them. Don't let them spend the night.

We can create logical checklists and follow them.

@mom2chloe here you go