Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #4

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Or maybe the person just didn't want to get out of the car and risk being identified.

Exactly. Most of the people who want discreet meet ups choose discreet places. Especially if they have sinister plans. It’s not really a far leap to think she met someone at a park in the middle of the night. If she was up and received a drunk text after arriving home, she could have though why not, I’m up and I’ll crash there, home tomorrow. Especially if she was benefiting from the meeting.
 
Exactly. Most of the people who want discreet meet ups choose discreet places. Especially if they have sinister plans. It’s not really a far leap to think she met someone at a park in the middle of the night. If she was up and received a drunk text after arriving home, she could have though why not, I’m up and I’ll crash there, home tomorrow. Especially if she was benefiting from the meeting.
Well if the info is true about Kenzie meeting other people at that park, she could have been the one to choose the location. But who knows
 
Michael Locklear on Twitter
JC also addressed talk of #MackenzieLueck’s dating life. “If it is true or isn’t true, the family and I really do not care. We just want her home safe. We don’t care about the past. We don’t care what she’s gotten into or what has happened. We just want her home.”
3:38 PM - 25 Jun 2019
I’m feeling very afraid for her at this point - would like to hope she will be returned safely but the silence is deafening IMO - now if she’s being held let’s hope she can get herself away like others have done / praying for her family. Reading the article upthread that her phone has been off since last Monday is a bad sign- JMO
Also thanks for keeping the media thread updated and current @PommyMommy and @Seattle1 - this missing girl is tough for me
Eta link to story about her phone being shut off
Missing Utah college student last seen in a Salt Lake City park at 3 a.m.
 
I want to get on board with this but the missing piece to this is if that’s the type of person she’s meeting why did they meet at the park. Not at the airport. Not at a gas station right off the freeway. So. Many. Options. For a close friend or an acquaintance or a co worker that part of your story does def not fit in.

That is a good point! There is not a ton of reasons to meet at that park when there was plenty of public places to meet unless they wanted to be discreet.
 
So many alarming things about this whole thing.

My first thought was an emotional breakdown, after the trauma of losing such a close family member,on top of exams and an upcoming wedding, that also involved travel, expense, time away from work and school. And grief, it can make you behave in ways that are not always in your best interest.

But it's clear to me there is something much more sinister going on here. I don't find it so unusual for her to meet up with someone before heading to her house after her flight, no matter the time, she may have wanted some down time, or even some space to not think about her loss, before heading home. It's been stated that this was traumatic for her. The fact that this person has not, as far as we know,come forward, is very telling.

And trust me, the dude you buy your weed (Or whatever) from is not going to meet you in a park in the middle of the night and then give you and your luggage and your bag of weed(or whatever) a ride home. Ridiculous.

If it was someone who was doing things they shouldn't have been doing, they could have quietly gone to LE and cleared themselves and requested their identity be withheld. LE could say, we have ID'd the person met in the park and this person is not a POI or suspect. Period, the end.

This was someone she knew well enough to meet in the wee hours in a park, and willingly get into a car with and didn't indicate any hesitation/distress per the Lyft driver.

As others have said, I also have did some incredibly stupid and dangerous things in my 20s, but I wouldn't have met someone in a park at that hour unless I was really comfortable with them. Really really comfortable. Even grief stricken, if it was a stranger, that's be a big no.

All MOO
 
I may be wrong but I think the general consensus is the mystery person wanted to avoid cameras and/or didn't have enough time. Lyft has confirmed, as well as the driver, that ML was taken to the destination she entered which was Hatch Park. MOO

Thanks. That helps a lot and I think I am finally understanding how LE knows the park drop off really did happen. Especially since LE stated the Lyft driver picked up other passengers after he dropped her off. They probably know the exact times of the new pickups and it probably showed little or no time elapsed from when he dropped her off and so I believe that is how they are able to elminate him. JMO of course on that part.

I also am now agreeing with others and starting to lean toward something along the lines of the Heather Elvis case too.

At that hour of the morning if she made a call to a Mr. X but he was asleep and a Mrs X woke up to intercept the text message or phone call, and if that person was already suspecting Mr. X of cheating then Mrs X could have flipped out and pretended to be Mr. X to go pick her up. All with the motive to put a stop to Mr. X cheating on her.

Or Mrs. X forces Mr. X to pick her up while she is bent down hiding in back of Mr X car ready to pounce or to have Mr. X pick her up and deliver her to where she would be waiting.

So many possibilites if Mrs X got her text/call before Mr X even saw it.
 
Michael Locklear on Twitter
JC also addressed talk of #MackenzieLueck’s dating life. “If it is true or isn’t true, the family and I really do not care. We just want her home safe. We don’t care about the past. We don’t care what she’s gotten into or what has happened. We just want her home.”
3:38 PM - 25 Jun 2019

Can I BUMP this a million times. The family does not care about these aspects. Her close friends and sisters do not care about these aspects. Until LE links or suggests there is a suspect or POI based on or about her interest in a certain lifestyle, I believe it is irrelevant.
 
Or maybe the person just didn't want to get out of the car and risk being identified.
I am trying to remember if Lyft contacted the police first or did the police call them first? When did this exchange first take place. Was it four days after the ride? When did LE clear the driver? I think that happened rather quickly. Just questions...respectfully
 
If her flight was late getting in perhaps the driver in the park did go to airport to pick her up but when he found out the flight was delayed instead of sitting at airport to wait drove to this park to wait if its only 10 min away, possibly fell asleep and ML called to let this person know she had landed, and maybe she said she would just get Lyft to drive her to where this person was at the park. I know this one is out there, but racking my mind here.
 
My thought is this is the type of person in control, with the power. You wanted to be with me, you paid to be driven to me (this person could have picked her up at the airport but didn't), you will do whatever it takes to come to me. Lift your bags, open your own door, you are beneath me and I am of utmost importance to you.

EXACTLY.
 
A nightcap at 3AM in Salt Lake City??? Not unless the city has changed a LOT since the last time I visited, or either her or her friend brought a bottle.

Sorry, I didn't mean at a bar, i know bars aren't open until 3am in SLC haha

I meant something like what you suggested--she didn't have any booze at home, she met up with someone else who did.
 
Lyft and Uber are very common here. The airport is a mess with parking changes, construction and closed ramps. Our family is within a 15 minute drive but we have used Uber frequently over the last year or two due to construction. So, I’m not surprised that she didn’t ask a friend to pick her up.

Now that they have her cell phone records, I bet we have a suspect within 24 hours. It will be interesting to see if it’s someone her age or older.
It was reported that LE has obtained a warrant for her cell phone records. We don't know when they will receive them. MOO
 
Humor me. I'm trying to think out of box.....

Suppose Kenzie attracted an admirer, who she met in LA this weekend. Perhaps at Gerry's funeral. Perhaps in a bar or something afterward. Brief conversation. Gave them her phone number, just to get them off her back.....FIgures she will never see them again. They casually ask when she is going back to Salt Lake. She tells them.
Then....to her surprise....she sees him Sunday night, as she arrives in the SLC airport.
She would be surprised and more than a little nervous (notice the photo with her hand on chest) But perhaps he did not approach her at all. But he was texting her.
They make arrangements over the phone, to meet somewhere. Perhaps near the hotel he has booked....
This could all happen, and CCTV wouldnt see her talking to anyone. It was all on phone.

I still think that’s an incredible stretch, and unlikely based on the facts as we know them.

That still image captured a tiny moment in time.

I’m sure someone could go through those videos, and find stills that show nearly every human emotion, none of them a genuine reflection of what she was feeling at the moment.

Anything is possible of course, but I think this is simple.

She met up with someone she had previously interacted with, and something went wrong.
 
I still think that’s an incredible stretch, and unlikely based on the facts as we know them.

That still image captured a tiny moment in time.

I’m sure someone could go through those videos, and find stills that show nearly every human emotion, none of them a genuine reflection of what she was feeling at the moment.

Anything is possible of course, but I think this is simple.

She met up with someone she had previously interacted with, and something went wrong.


This is what I'm thinking as well.
 
Someone made a comment about being worried she'll be found in her luggage and I remembered a few years ago, the police found a man in his luggage out by the salt palace near the great salt lake. NSL is not too far from the great salt lake. I really hope she doesn’t have the same fate as the other man found in his own luggage near there. It wouldn’t be a bad place to check out.
I know it's a gruesome thought, but these days you never know anymore!
 
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