Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #12 *ARREST*

[MesquiteO21]

I think there's a good chance he did, and as someone previously mentioned on here the FBI may have gotten involved and has stayed involved due to internet crimes.

that's a good point re: FBI getting involved. He didn't transport her across state lines (most likely) and I know police departments can request FBI assistance, but i wouldn't think a city as big as SLC would need it. Especially when the digital trail was pretty solid. So then you have to think of other reasons they came in.

yuck...yuck. this is really one of the most disturbing cases i've read about in a long time. i just really, really, really hope ML wasn't tortured/suffered RIP sweet girl

 

[PommyMommy]

No formal charges yet in Mackenzie Lueck's murder
[...]

Steve Burton, who leads the Utah Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said the jail has a 72-hour hold policy that starts on the first business day following an arrest.

That means if not formally charged by Wednesday afternoon, Ajayi could presumably be released, but Burton said that is unlikely.

[...]

Burton said one reason for delaying the filing of charges would be to allow more time for a key decision. Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to pursue the death penalty, and the clock starts after he’s formally charged.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Probably helped in his decision to hire her!!

i can't help but think there's a psychological element to it too, like see? blonde women trust me and know i'm harmless! i definitely don't think it's a coincidence that his attorney is in the same general physical category as his victim, not at all.

 

[Thespyma]

He is listed as the football player in the "Cast" section here: Video Credits — Climb to Glory

I will add that to 2017.

I have also added the arrest information to the list but am leaving Detroit off for now. Trying to get caught up! MOO

Thanks for letting me know this. As an Army person, I am now very ashamed at West Point for not only using an actor and certainly not a veteran or active duty Army person and definitely not one of the football players. I also see that West Point has his picture on a lot of their football pages. Shameful...Since my husband and another family member are Navy and one other is Air Force, I think I will root for them next time they play Army.

 

[Jealoushe]

that's a good point re: FBI getting involved. He didn't transport her across state lines (most likely) and I know police departments can request FBI assistance, but i wouldn't think a city as big as SLC would need it. Especially when the digital trail was pretty solid. So then you have to think of other reasons they came in.

yuck...yuck. this is really one of the most disturbing cases i've read about in a long time. i just really, really, really hope ML wasn't tortured/suffered RIP sweet girl

As we saw in the Mollie Tibet’s case, it’s common for FBI to get involved in missing persons or violent crimes of this nature.

 

[SandSage]

Thanks for letting me know this. As an Army person, I am now very ashamed at West Point for not only using an actor and certainly not a veteran or active duty Army person and definitely not one of the football players. I also see that West Point has his picture on a lot of their football pages. Shameful...Since my husband and another family member are Navy and one other is Air Force, I think I will root for them next time they play Army.

Maybe someone should let West Point know... they may want to pull that photo. JMO

 

[Hank Scorpio]

This is all reminding me of the Hannah Graham case ...even down to the hiring of a defense lawyer not hard on the eyes

Murder of Hannah Graham - Wikipedia

 

[bestill]

Anyone else think the delay in charges is interesting? In many past cases I've followed they've charged quickly and even on a Saturday. LE is being very strategic with this and I'm thinking there's more than we realize.

 

[mickey2942]

I really, really hope that he didn't film what happened to her.

I hope he did. And that it is available for the trial. Front and center for the jury.

Slam dunk DP. 15 minutes tops for the vote. Pretend to waste time for "deliberations". And the free lunch.

The real question, if it would be too prejudicial for the jury to be exposed to it, why shouldn't it be shown?

 

[bestill]

I hope he did. And that it is available for the trial. Front and center for the jury.

Slam dunk DP. 15 minutes tops for the vote. Pretend to waste time for "deliberations". And the free lunch.

The real question, if it would be too prejudicial for the jury to be exposed to it, why shouldn't it be shown?

I understand what you're saying, just thinking about her family.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

None of that looks true when you compare it to what has been reported about the man (that I have seen). I know there are loads of people with the same name but this has identifiers unique to him.

Microsoft? Did he really work for Microsoft?He also credits himself with two years in the military.

Maybe I haven’t read enough about this guy because it looks like a bunch of BS. Honestly though, I don’t really want to read that much about him. Not right now.

His "military service" has been proven to be a crock!! It appears he was hired as "civil servant" and tried to enlist/go to basic training but was discharged after only 6 months working as IT support for a National Gaurd unit. He has zero rights to any military benefits including calling himself a member of the US military!

 

[mickey2942]

I understand what you're saying, just thinking about her family.

It would no doubt be graphic, if it exists. They are probably tormented anyway by what they are imagining.

But a Death Penalty verdict would be worth it.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

That's what I was thinking. It's weird because in some countries you can vote with a green card, yet it's not possible in the USA. I wonder when he got his citizenship, maybe we have some agreement with Nigeria to make it easier. I hope he didn't get it thru a 6 month enlistment in the army.

Doubtful as he never even completed basic training!

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

Thanks for letting me know this. As an Army person, I am now very ashamed at West Point for not only using an actor and certainly not a veteran or active duty Army person and definitely not one of the football players. I also see that West Point has his picture on a lot of their football pages. Shameful...Since my husband and another family member are Navy and one other is Air Force, I think I will root for them next time they play Army.

I can't believe it either! I think its terrible!

 

[Harmony 2]

fyi I am preparing a new thread. We will be moving in about 10 minutes.

 

[Seattle1]

Thanks for letting me know this. As an Army person, I am now very ashamed at West Point for not only using an actor and certainly not a veteran or active duty Army person and definitely not one of the football players. I also see that West Point has his picture on a lot of their football pages. Shameful...Since my husband and another family member are Navy and one other is Air Force, I think I will root for them next time they play Army.

I wouldn't be so hard on WP.

I believe this was a business transaction -- they engaged a firm to produce a marketing video for them, and firm used individuals they probably had contracts with, and they simply delivered the product as agreed.

Actually, using "real " soldiers and/or players for a production can come with it's own problems-- whether it be film credentials, copyright, royalties, etc.

MOO

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

If I'm following what you said in this post correctly, a person can be a member of the Army National Guard for an extended period of time without ever completing basic training.

If I'm getting this wrong let everyone know. Thanks.

You can be hired as a civilian to support units in the National Gaurd as well as other branches. He was discharged for being "medically unfit" which can mean mental health evals couldn't be passed(and in most cases doesn't refer to a physical medical condition). As far as all statements released from the Army/Military they've made it clear he completed ZERO trainings and there for had NO rights to military benefits. Had he been hurt during basic training he would've still be able to receive benefits such as VA access.

 

[RANCH]

You can be hired as a civilian to support units in the National Gaurd as well as other branches. He was discharged for being medically unfit which can also mean mental health evals couldn't be passed. As far as all statements released from the Army/Military they've made it clear be completed ZERO trainings and there for had NO rights to military benefits. Had he been hurt during basic training he would've still be able to receive benefits such as VA access.

That would mean you are a civilian employee and not a member of the Army National Guard.

How can you be discharged if you never were a member of the Guard?

I don't get it.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

I wouldn't be so hard on WP.

I believe this was a business transaction -- they engaged a firm to produce a marketing video for them, and firm used individuals they probably had contracts with, and they simply delivered the product as agreed.

Actually, using "real " soldiers and/or players for a production can come with it's own problems-- whether it be film credentials, copyright, royalties, etc.

MOO

You know now that you say that, I wonder if it can also create a security issue to use real soldiers, Marine's, Sailors, etc? I know that there are tons of security briefs given to the military members and families especially during their early trainings and deployments. They are pretty firm about making sure to keep our FB profiles for instance locked down and not to expose locations, dates of deployments etc as you never want to put yourself or military loved one at risk.

However, I just think its more proof about what a liar & sham AJ is. He wanted people to believe he played football on that team & used it to his advantage!

 

[MassGuy]

That would mean you are a civilian employee and not a member of the Army National Guard.

How can you be discharged if you never were a member of the Guard?

I don't get it.

He signed up, but didn’t complete training.

You don’t get points for trying.

If you don’t complete training, you aren’t a soldier.