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kiki...that was a great post. I feel like you are speaking for me, as well. Perfectly spoken....just couldn't agree with you more.
Thread #6 starts with many of you confirming my own feelings. It has been strange that searches haven't been promoted more, and her friends too helpful to the only POI. I don't understand it, but there must be a reason. At this point, I am unable to form any strong opinions, not knowing all the facts, and the reasoning behind the non-search. Totally mystified. I'm sad for Susan, her family, and for her two sons.
In this whole searching scenerio the one person that should be looking for Susan and isn't...is her husband.
If it was my husband missing, or my child the only reason I would lose my job is because I was too busy being distressed, depressed, worried, and leading search parties myself. Not because I forgot it was a work day.
I haven't been following all the news like some have, but enough to know that somebody more worried about packing up a house than looking at maps and weather reports to plan search parties...well, I don't think I need say anything else.
JMO.
Yes, I did see that a search is going to take place. That made me feel better, that at least some people will be looking. This case is very disturbing. I feel that Susan didn't stand a chance with that husband of hers and I only wish she could have gotten out of his clutches before it came to this. And I only have scorn for his father; I think he is an instigator (sp) sending his comments about the LDS church group. that just stirred the pot. there are just so many things wrong with this case;
Mystified is an excellent word as I feel exactly the same as to why there have been no organized searches. The only conclusion that I can even entertain is that LE has conclusive proof that she is deceased. And as mentioned earlier...why put people through a search in winter when it could be dangerous. Rather than searching for a needle in a haystack just wait until they make an arrest, and see if sniveling Josh will confess when he understands the amount of evidence they have.
(bbm) Agree cherry--and curious. This is the most telling of all isn't it...
We know the conditions are horrible... we know large scale searches haven't been organized yet... we know realistically, or rationally odds are against them... that there are risks, and that many S&R operations prioritize their resources and reserve dog and manpower for live searches vs recovery operations...
...but if it were your own loved one... family member, sister, or friend... you could not rest... would search high and low, near and far... before you could give up. Even if it were a dismal venture, all but doomed to failure, in such a vast amount of territory... endless desert... snowcovered mountains... neverending woods... miles and miles of roadsides... it's so very overwhelming. And there is only one person--maybe two--who could make that job any easier... and he's not talking.
It is the covering up--the throwing of sand (in this instance snow, more likely) on the grave--which is nearly as cruel as the act of robbing this woman of her life, these parents of a daughter, and two young boys of their mother. Prayers for Susan--her family, and especially her boys to be in safety and in peace, God comfort and watch over them all. rayer:
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Can someone fill me in on why Ed Smart has been talked about in this case? I am trying to do so research on him and his involvement with missing people. I know I have read something just don't know where.
Not sure why people are vilifying him for that. He apparently raised his children in a certain religion and through time discovered facts or reasoning that led him to believe that was not right - I think he's within his rights to discuss that with his children. I am not Mormon, but I lived in Salt Lake City for several years and its quite common for people to learn things that they were never taught within the system and then fall away -- especially true in the age of the Internet. In fact I met a whole spectrum of "believers", from those who barely participate to those who are still gung-ho on the "one true church" (their words). Mostly they all get along. If this was so important to Josh and holding firm in that faith was so important to her, it is odd that he agreed to marriage counseling within their church, because then when she made her demand that he become active again, it was certain he would get no compromise on that from the counseling. I do have to believe that since this happened on a Sunday, something about all that might have brought this to a head that particular day.
Of course I hope I am wrong and do hope for the best outcome for Susan and Susan's family.
Not sure why people are vilifying him for that. He apparently raised his children in a certain religion and through time discovered facts or reasoning that led him to believe that was not right - I think he's within his rights to discuss that with his children. I am not Mormon, but I lived in Salt Lake City for several years and its quite common for people to learn things that they were never taught within the system and then fall away -- especially true in the age of the Internet. In fact I met a whole spectrum of "believers", from those who barely participate to those who are still gung-ho on the "one true church" (their words). Mostly they all get along. If this was so important to Josh and holding firm in that faith was so important to her, it is odd that he agreed to marriage counseling within their church, because then when she made her demand that he become active again, it was certain he would get no compromise on that from the counseling. I do have to believe that since this happened on a Sunday, something about all that might have brought this to a head that particular day.
Of course I hope I am wrong and do hope for the best outcome for Susan and Susan's family.
Not sure why people are vilifying him for that. He apparently raised his children in a certain religion and through time discovered facts or reasoning that led him to believe that was not right - I think he's within his rights to discuss that with his children. I am not Mormon, but I lived in Salt Lake City for several years and its quite common for people to learn things that they were never taught within the system and then fall away -- especially true in the age of the Internet. In fact I met a whole spectrum of "believers", from those who barely participate to those who are still gung-ho on the "one true church" (their words). Mostly they all get along. If this was so important to Josh and holding firm in that faith was so important to her, it is odd that he agreed to marriage counseling within their church, because then when she made her demand that he become active again, it was certain he would get no compromise on that from the counseling. I do have to believe that since this happened on a Sunday, something about all that might have brought this to a head that particular day.
Of course I hope I am wrong and do hope for the best outcome for Susan and Susan's family.
BBM.... No she did not say that! That is something that was started here.
With all due respect, it can't be rocket science. LE must know more than they're telling us. If they searched for Elizabeth Smart in the snow, I would imagine they would search for Susan in the snow, IF they thought she was still out there. They must know where she is, or what's going on, or something deeper that we can't even fathom. It sucks for us who are in the dark, it really does. I wish I knew what they know, and it drives me insane, but they have reasons for keeping it confidential. But it still sucks!
Now, this about Kiirsi...did she say or infer that Susan is being deprogrammed?
There are so many possibilities...
Yes, I agree. I think LE knows more than they're telling us and they knew it fairly early on. There is a definite reason no one is searching. I think Kiirsi and the family are floating some serious red herrings toward Josh so he gets comfortable and slips up (even more).
Josh isn't around them anymore.