VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1

[TiaDaxxy1980]

Can anyone post the information that was shared? I missed the episode.

 

[Fukiyama]

Can anyone post the information that was shared? I missed the episode.

The basics in roughly the order they occurred (read over what Copper and I posted above as well):

The last person to be with Amy on the cruise ship was a band member, last name Douglas. This was reported to the parents by two college girls.

When the dad and the brother were on a return trip to Curacao to look for Amy, they spoke to a cabby who recognized Amy's photo. The cabby said that on the day the ship docked at Curacao, a woman fitting Amy's description came up to the cabby, tense-like, and asked where she could find a phone.

Later...
A Canadian tourist who was on Curacao for scuba-diving reported that he had seen a woman fitting Amy's description flanked by two men walking down the beach. The woman tried to approach him since she noticed he spoke English, but the men escorted her away to a bar. The Canadian followed and was able to get a good look at the woman's tattoos that matched Amy's.

Years later...
A US Navy officer whose ship made a port call at Curacao reported to the parents that two years earlier he had been approached by a woman at a brothel who asked for help and said her name was Amy Bradley. The woman was then escorted away by a or two. The officer waited to report it because he wasn't supposed to be in the brothel while on liberty.

Somewhere around here...
The photos of "Jaz" on a website were found. It was a website originating in the Caribbean that advertised escorts. The Feds have been trying to track down the IP of the website, but no luck so far. Anyway, the pictures were thought to be of Amy. What I hadn't known before was that the Bradleys had the pictures examined by a forensic detective who thought with a very high degree of certainty that "Jaz" was in fact Amy Bradley.

Later...
A woman and her husband were on a cruise in the Caribbean. Their ship stopped at Bridgetown, Barbados and the couple went ashore for the day for shopping. While at a department store, the woman went to the restroom and went into a stall. Just then, she heard a bunch of people come in and stern voices talking, telling someone when something was going to occur. Then people left and the tourist woman came out of her stall to find another woman. They talked and the other woman spoke very softly. The tourist woman thought that she said she was from Virginia and then she said more clearly that her name was Amy. Then some of the thugs returned and the tourist woman bolted in fear. The tourist woman later gave info for composite sketches of the woman with whom she spoke and three of the thugs after she recognized the photos of "Jaz" as the woman she met in the restroom.

Also...
The jawbone referenced earlier in this thread was never mentioned. But they did talk about part of a skeleton that was found early on, but turned out not to be Amy. They also talked about the con artist who conned the Bradleys out of some money because he claimed he and his associates could extract her from the Curacao underworld.

That's pretty much all of it. The Amy episode is going to be on again on Wednesday and Friday at 10 PM EDT. Try to catch it then.

 

[Fukiyama]

Okay, the episode is posted.

http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/van...way/video/full-episodes/episode-3-amy-bradley

It's also on again tonight at 10 PM EDT and again on Friday at the same time.

 

[Kristin83]

I watched this episode of Vanished last night and HIGHLY recommend it. It was filled with info that I hadn't heard before.

They went into more details about the sightings and I'm now fully convinced that they were authentic, and that Amy was alive for a while after her abduction, at least until 2005 when the last sighting was.

I feel so bad for the Bradleys.

This is why I won't go anywhere by myself when I'm on vacation, particularly if I'm not in the US, even if it's just to get something from my room. We use the buddy system at all times. I know the Amy Bradley case is not a frequent occurrence...but here was a normal family enjoying a normal vacation and it happened to them.

 

[Fukiyama]

^ Glad you got to see it. My brother and I have been following the Bradley case for a long time and we learned a lot from the show.

The Caribbean is just not really a cool place.

This is my theory of what happened:

Amy was profiled by a group on the ship. Someone went through the photos of the passengers and picked out Amy. That's how her photos disappeared.

The band member was somehow involved and served as a contact?

Amy was probably persuaded to leave the ship, but once she got off, things didn't go as she expected. She tried to find a way to contact her family (her meeting with the cabby asking for a phone), but was taken then by those who had profiled her earlier.

I think eventually she moved on from being in a brothel to being somehow involved in illicit activities as an unwilling accomplice. The final sighting of her on Barbados and what the thugs said to her in the restroom of the department store leads me to believe she was being used for those activities after she had aged out of being a prostitute.

 

[Kristin83]

Your theory is very believable, Fuki. If you are correct, I hope and pray that means she is still alive today and there's still hope.

I really want to believe the sightings are authentic. The thing that frustraates me is you don't know 100% if these witnesses saw Amy. I'm sure they mean well (the cab driver, the Canadian scuba diver, the lady in the restroom at Barbados) but there's just no way to prove the woman they saw each time was Amy. Very creepy, and sad.

 

[Copper]

Hard to believe a case like this could get any sadder, but for me, it is almost devastating. With so many good sightings and then the 2007 sighting on Barbados, it so likely that Amy was down there and not really hidden away at all. Unfortunately, the devastating part is that the Bradley's got ripped off by that con man who wasted so much of their time and money for nothing during the years when I think Amy could most possibly have been recovered.

 

[Fukiyama]

i've read some of these posts, and i find it hard to believe she fell overboard, i think that if it was that easy to fall of a cruise ship, a lot more people would be missing from cruise ships. i really believe she was sold into slavery by the band member. i bet he did it for money.

I don't think it was just the band member. I think he was the point man who was there to gain her trust, but there were definitely accomplices in the crew. The photographer who got rid of all the pictures of Amy was one for certain. There has been speculation that I've read on how Amy could have gotten off the ship without being noticed or recorded; I think the band member was there to steer her to where she could leave the ship while other conspirators turned a blind eye. And then of course there were the people waiting on the island.

what i wonder is, IF this is amy,why didnt a detective, or officer set up a meeting with her to see if it was?

I've often wondered that myself. But maybe her pic was just for show on the website?

 

[twinkiesmom]

^ Glad you got to see it. My brother and I have been following the Bradley case for a long time and we learned a lot from the show.

The Caribbean is just not really a cool place.

This is my theory of what happened:

Amy was profiled by a group on the ship. Someone went through the photos of the passengers and picked out Amy. That's how her photos disappeared.

The band member was somehow involved and served as a contact?

Amy was probably persuaded to leave the ship, but once she got off, things didn't go as she expected. She tried to find a way to contact her family (her meeting with the cabby asking for a phone), but was taken then by those who had profiled her earlier.

I think eventually she moved on from being in a brothel to being somehow involved in illicit activities as an unwilling accomplice. The final sighting of her on Barbados and what the thugs said to her in the restroom of the department store leads me to believe she was being used for those activities after she had aged out of being a prostitute.

Her family has said she was creeped out by the band member interested in her...unless they're lying, I believe she was secreted off the ship against her will....likely drugged and stuffed into a large suitcase or a large box/drum. There probably was an organized ring involved.

 

[Jessicaleanne1992]

if she went overboard, then why were all of here pictures deleted from the ship? that's what makes me feel very strongly that there's foul play involved.

 

[Fukiyama]

Her family has said she was creeped out by the band member interested in her...unless they're lying, I believe she was secreted off the ship against her will....likely drugged and stuffed into a large suitcase or a large box/drum. There probably was an organized ring involved.

I don't remember that point. I do remember that Amy and her brother were friendly with some of the crew, if not the band member guy.

The reason why I don't think she was drugged per se is that she was cognizant enough once off the ship to ask the cabby for a telephone.

 

[twinkiesmom]

I don't remember that point. I do remember that Amy and her brother were friendly with some of the crew, if not the band member guy.

The reason why I don't think she was drugged per se is that she was cognizant enough once off the ship to ask the cabby for a telephone.

Please read this:
http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/LatestMemberStories/Amy_Lynn_Bradley.html

 

[Fukiyama]

Please read this:
http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/LatestMemberStories/Amy_Lynn_Bradley.html

Thanks for the link. What am I looking for?

 

[twinkiesmom]

Thanks for the link. What am I looking for?

This is the source re: the crew members giving Amy the creeps...Read the 6th paragraph.

 

[Fukiyama]

This is the source re: the crew members giving Amy the creeps...Read the 6th paragraph.

I see it. I don't want to fixate on this one detail. I was just responding to and brainstorming on how Amy would have been able to leave the ship. Others have suggested she was drugged. I suggested a crew member might have lured her off. Regardless of how she got off the ship, she still would have needed to be cognizant enough of her surroundings to think to ask the cabby for a phone.

 

[twinkiesmom]

I see it. I don't want to fixate on this one detail. I was just responding to and brainstorming on how Amy would have been able to leave the ship. Others have suggested she was drugged. I suggested a crew member might have lured her off. Regardless of how she got off the ship, she still would have needed to be cognizant enough of her surroundings to think to ask the cabby for a phone.

You don't know what she would have been dosed with or how much...also, she could have been bound and gagged but not drugged. It seems unlikely that she ditched her family to leave the ship willingly under her own power....She didn't even have shoes with her.

 

[jashrema]

After doing a little investigating and watching "Vanished"...Steve Croes is not mentioned at all as a POI in the Amy Bradley case. ONLY Alistair Douglas and after finding pics of him, he is definitely the one dancing with Amy. Alistair was also given a polygraph and questioned by the FBI per Amy's parents. There was not enough evidence to arrest him for kidnapping. HE is the one that knows what happened to Amy. How her parents are able to control themselves and not go to where he is and do whatever they need to do (waterboarding comes to mind!) until he tells them what he knows, is beyond me. I pray for Amy to come home and have her and her parents have some peace.

link to "Vanished" with info

http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/vanished-with-beth-holloway/video/full-episodes/episode-3-amy-bradley

Link to Alister Douglas' website for his band with his bio...disgusting that he just carries on with his life when he was the last to see Amy.

http://unitedsoundband.webs.com/bandmembers.htm

 

[*Jessica*]

Wow, I just got done watching that show "Vanished" and there was a lot of info on there that I had no idea about. I'm so glad that Beth Holloway is helping out others who have either lost or are trying to find their child who is missing. God bless her for her work.

After reading a lot of what people posted and numerous websites of info, I don't think she fell overboard or jumped to kill herself. She had so much going on for her and so much to look forward to when she got back home from vacation so I think suicide is just out of the question. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I just don't think it would make sense for her to do it.

As almost 99% of people think I think that one "Yellow" guy needs to be re-questioned and investigated. If I read correctly he was the one spending the most time with her dancing a little too friendly with her. I'm not saying it was wrong but she didn't know the guy. Maybe she was just really friendly? Too trusting?

I think it was odd that the one guy (the one who spoke to I think it was Amy's brother) said to him "I'm sorry about your sister". That to me is just a little bit odd..How the heck did he even know that something happened to her? I thought only the crew security? And Amy's family knew she was missing? That comment was a little incriminating if you ask me.

One thing that struck me as odd was that she was up pretty much all night? I thought I read somewhere that she normally didn't stay up that late? I would think that she would be exhausted from the things she did all morning and night (maybe it's just me). I hate to ask but was she doing drugs? That's the only reason as to why I could think she would be up all night till morning.

I also think it's odd that all of her photos taken of her during the cruise "mysteriously" vanished (odd). I also think it’s a little odd that on the one link where that camera guy has a video of her dancing with "yellow" was asked to get rid of any and all video that had her in it. And that a family friend of the Bradley’s claimed that FBI wanted his master copy of Amy dancing..

I think those photos of "Jazz" on that escort site are really her (just my opinion). It looks too much like her to pass up...It's kind of odd how that pictures strategically taken to cover up any of her tattoos that could have shown. That’s why I believe it's her..

I believe all of those credible sightings of her around and on the island including the brothel. I believe she was somehow kidnapped and smuggled into human trafficking and was made to turn into a drug addict if you look at those pics of "Jazz" her face looks pretty sunken in..She looks "rough" and "strung out". She no longer looked healthy like she did in photos taken of her on the vacation.

I don't know how she was smuggled off but she was somehow. I believe that "Yellow" played a part in it. Whether it was solely him or more than one person/persons.

I believe there are people that know more than what was been revealed and people that actually know the whole story on what happened and if she is even alive right now.

Also why didn't the cruise ship be more helpful?? Like make an announcement or actually thoroughly search for her? Why did they lie about it? Why didn't they do the search way before they docked? Why not show her pictures around? Why didn't they want it posted around? I guess because it would cause bad business for future trips but still..I would think that the crew and ship would want to be viewed in more of a positive light not such a negative one knowing they could of done SO much more to help if not find her at the time she went missing.

They should have checked any and all bags that left with the people on the cruise. They should have knocked on every door and showed her picture to everyone on deck and made sure EVERY place nook and cranny was checked before they let the passengers off...SO much more could have been done. That was just sadly enough swept under the carpet and covered up..

Too many weird and odd things happened while her parents were frantically searching for her..It's like whoever did this tried to "erase" Amy as if she never boarded the ship at all..Something is up. Something smells fishy. Something is just not right..This could have been handled so much more professionally and thoroughly..

I hate to say this. But as sad as it looks I don't believe she is alive anymore..There have been no more sightings of her (that I know of) as to before there were numerous ones of her over the years. I don't think her body will ever be found if this is the case..

I will say a prayer for her and her family that some clue and or lead will pop up and either shed light to this case, or give them the closure they so desperately need right now.

 

[CanManEh]

If anyone wants great updates and maybe new clues go to utube and watch Amy Bradley by Beth holloway in her new show vanished great new show .Amy seems to have been taken and is still on that island thiers an investagator that has located her and got a good pic of her I think this case may have a good ending fairly soon.

 

[*Jessica*]

If anyone wants great updates and maybe new clues go to utube and watch Amy Bradley by Beth holloway in her new show vanished great new show .Amy seems to have been taken and is still on that island thiers an investagator that has located her and got a good pic of her I think this case may have a good ending fairly soon.

That's the show I watched last night..It had so much information on there that I've never even heard before..They should also feature her on the show "Disappeared" which is pretty much the same kind of show. Again, god bless Beth for doing a show like that and featuring Amy.