VA VA - Ashland, WhtMale, 20-25, UP80448, hit by semi truck, Western-style shirt, Sz10 boots, Mar '77

[victoriarobinson642]

Older case added to NAMUS today:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
WARNING: Post-mortem based 'reconstruction' in NAMUS.
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Demographics
Sex - Male
Race / Ethnicity - White / Caucasian
Estimated Age Group - Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years) - 20-25
Estimated Year of Death - 1977
Estimated PMI - 5 Minutes
Height - 5' 11"(71 inches) , Measured
Weight- 143 lbs, Measured

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Circumstances
Type - Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found - March 23, 1977
NamUs Case Created - May 17, 2021
ME/C QA Reviewed--
Location Found Map
Location - Virginia
County - Hanover County
Found On Tribal Land - No
Circumstances of Recovery - This decedent was struck by a tractor-trailer on I-95 in Hanover County.

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Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains - Recognizable face

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Physical Description
Hair Color - Brown
Head Hair Description - Sandy brown hair, medium length
Left Eye Color - Brown
Right Eye Color - Brown

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Clothing and Accessories
Clothing - Maverick jeans (30X34) (bark, twig, pine needle fragments found in pockets) Lee jean jacket (flakes of tobacco found in pockets) green Pak-Nit t-shirt size large brown Western-style shirt, Trim-West Rockmount Ranch Wear, Denver Colorado orange jockey shorts white socks with orange stripe. - On the Body

Clothing -Pair of men's brown boots size 10 - Near the Body

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[ChatteringBirds]

Thank you for creating a thread. How sad, all these years unidentified.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

2 Missing Person Exclusions:
Kyle Clinkscales, 1976, GA
Dean Heagerty, 1976, NY

 

[BrownPaperBag]

At the time, according to the article, law enforcement suspected the unknown man was associated with some men who had flown into the area and gotten arrested with a large amount of marijuana. The arrested men were from Ft Lauderdale, Florida, West Palm Beach, Florida, and Louisville, Kentucky. I wonder if any of them ever did say whether he was with them or if he matches any missing person cases in Florida or Kentucky, where these men were from.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

2 Missing Person Exclusions:
Kyle Clinkscales, 1976, GA
Dean Heagerty, 1976, NY

11 MP exclusions, the nine new of them don't seem to have linked NAMUS profiles:
Guy Morton
08/05/1983
(Later found deceased in AZ Denver couple create victims assistance group after son’s unsolved slaying in 1975 – The Denver Post)
John Smola
02/08/1978
Ernie Osborne
02/13/1979
James Clay
02/16/1979
George Sims
02/13/1979
Marcum Patrick
02/13/1979
Charles Hess, Jr
02/13/1979
Dan Barfield
06/13/1977, VA
Arthur Bowman Jr
02/01/1977, FL
Charles "Chillie" Falls Jr (there appears to be a newspapers.com article on him, still missing)
01/01/1977, Roanoke, VA
Dennis Bowen
02/08/1974

 

[dotr]

Cross posting with suggestion from new Ws member on this thread..
CANADA - Canada - Richard 'Ricky' Jones, 18, Brantford, Ont, Oct 1975 | Page 3 (websleuths.com)

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Cross posting with suggestion from new Ws member on this thread..
CANADA - Canada - Richard 'Ricky' Jones, 18, Brantford, Ont, Oct 1975 | Page 3 (websleuths.com)

I see a definite resemblance in their teeth, though I wonder what would've brought Ricky to Virginia.

 

[Caring1]

A couple of possibilities that are not yet showing on the rule out list. Also, These two MP’s do not have UP80448 on their list of rule outs. Both missing in March 1977.

[URL="http://missingin.org/reg7255/david_robert_sampson.htm#:~:text=David%20Robert%20Sampson%20Went%20Missing%20In%20Seattle%20Washington,evidence%20of%20personality%20change%20associated%20with%20religious%20conversion"]David Robert Sampson - Washington Missing Person Directory[/URL]

Richard Allen Rhyne - Texas Missing Person Directory

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I believe I've found his shirt.
Vintage The King Size CO Pak-Nit T-Shirt Blank Green Pocket T 100% Cotton XXLT | eBay

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Quick recon of Ashland Doe. I think this more accurately reflects his appearance than the PM photo on NAMUS.

 

[HopeRains]

Richard Allen Rhyne - Texas Missing Person Directory

Noting if missing/discovered date/time is accurate for both Mr. Rhyne (2:35 PM Texas time) and John Doe (and about 2 AM Eastern time per the article), this would be approximately 11 hours difference between missing/discovery land approximately 1400 miles.

 

[Caring1]

Noting if missing/discovered date/time is accurate for both Mr. Rhyne (2:35 PM Texas time) and John Doe (and about 2 AM Eastern time per the article), this would be approximately 11 hours difference between missing/discovery land approximately 1400 miles.

Yes, you are right. Likely that Richard Rhyne is not a candidate for our John Doe. Thank you for scrubbing that critical detail. I appreciate that very much.

 

[HopeRains]

Yes, you are right. Likely that Richard Rhyne is not a candidate for our John Doe. Thank you for scrubbing that critical detail. I appreciate that very much.

Welcome. Not impossible of course, and so much that is documented is inaccurate, just something to be considered

 

[chaddylex]

This John Doe's NamUs profile was modified today, 5/10/22
He currently has 14 rule outs

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

MP14272
David
Sampson
03/01/1977
King
WA

MP32700
Dean
Heagerty
11/21/1976
Oswego
NY
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Guy
Morton
08/05/1983
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John
Smola
02/08/1978
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Ernie
Osborne
02/13/1979
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James
Clay
02/16/1979
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George
Sims
02/13/1979
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Marcum
Patrick
02/13/1979
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Charles
Hess, Jr
02/13/1979
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Dan
Barfield
06/13/1977
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VA
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Arthur
Bowman Jr
02/01/1977
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FL
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Charles "Chillie"
Falls Jr
01/01/1977
Roanoke
VA
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Dennis
Bowen
02/08/1974
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MP426
Kyle
Clinkscales
01/27/1976
Troup
GA

 

[chaddylex]

So I started looking into this John Doe. I found Michael Harp, who went missing from New Mexico on March 23, 197.
Michael was last seen at a hospital located in the vicinity of the 2400 block of S. Telshor Blvd. in Las Cruces, NM. He was sighted a short time later hitchhiking along I-25 near the hospital. He was possibly picked up by a truck driver who indicated he dropped Michael off S. of Albuquerque, NM.

Could he have ended up in VA 4 days later? If he was hitchhiking and with a truck driver it's a possibility.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Here is a side by side. Now that I put the two next to each other, I think the noses look different, along with the eye brows.

 

[HopeRains]

So I started looking into this John Doe. I found Michael Harp, who went missing from New Mexico on March 23, 197.

If I am reading correctly, Mr. Harp was listed as missing on the same date the John Doe is listed is being found.

 

[chaddylex]

If I am reading correctly, Mr. Harp was listed as missing on the same date the John Doe is listed is being found.

Oh yes, you are correct. When I was comparing I had the date wrong for the John Doe by a few days.

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[victoriarobinson642]

11 MP exclusions, the nine new of them don't seem to have linked NAMUS profiles:
Guy Morton
08/05/1983
(Later found deceased in AZ Denver couple create victims assistance group after son’s unsolved slaying in 1975 – The Denver Post)
John Smola
02/08/1978
Ernie Osborne
02/13/1979
James Clay
02/16/1979
George Sims
02/13/1979
Marcum Patrick
02/13/1979
Charles Hess, Jr
02/13/1979
Dan Barfield
06/13/1977, VA
Arthur Bowman Jr
02/01/1977, FL
Charles "Chillie" Falls Jr (there appears to be a newspapers.com article on him, still missing)
01/01/1977, Roanoke, VA
Dennis Bowen
02/08/1974

Opinion | His Ship Finally Came In, but Should He Be on It? (Published 2022)

The pandemic marooned Charles Falls Jr. on land for nearly two years. Now he’s setting sail again.

www.nytimes.com

Looks like Chillie Falls is alive and well and a cruise ship enthusiast.