VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #3

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Heroine said:
How do I look at the attachments for the other 2 threads without looking through the whole thread, because I believe it was on his status page and i think we already have an attachment of that somewhere.
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you were absolutely right! :)

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This is an important question why do you think he called the police The officer that did the check was a skinny cop. Do you think he wanted to kill a cop too? Gotta remember he made the intruder call shortly after the welfare check.
 
peace_gurl said:
This is an important question why do you think he called the police The officer that did the check was a skinny cop. Do you think he wanted to kill a cop too? Gotta remember he made the intruder call shortly after the welfare check.
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Early on when this was being suggested, it didn't seem very likely to me. I just didn't imagine him, at that time, as being so intentionally set on certain types of kills, for example, that it might be why he killed a pastor. But the more that has been pointed out about how this went down, including where you said he might have expected the one guy and then got two others, then the more I have to let this idea in as a possibility. Also, there just seem to be no other satisfying theories for why he called.

On edit... I was just remembering: were there 4 icons that get killed in the video that ex-horrorcore guy was in? One was a priest? Was another a cop? And what were the others?
 
tapu said:
Early on when this was being suggested, it didn't seem very likely to me. I just didn't imagine him, at that time, as being so intentionally set on certain types of kills, for example, that it might be why he killed a pastor. But the more that has been pointed out about how this went down, including where you said he might have expected the one guy and then got two others, then the more I have to let this idea in as a possibility. Also, there just seem to be no other satisfying theories for why he called.

On edit... I was just remembering: were there 4 icons that get killed in the video that ex-horrorcore guy was in? One was a priest? Was another a cop? And what were the others?
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Think you have SickTanick confused with the Village People here ;)
 
peace_gurl said:
This is an important question why do you think he called the police The officer that did the check was a skinny cop. Do you think he wanted to kill a cop too? Gotta remember he made the intruder call shortly after the welfare check.
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I dont think he had any intention to kill the police officer who came to check the basement, I think he wanted to put someone imaginary at the scene before he bolted for California.
 
Nikolai said:
I dont think he had any intention to kill the police officer who came to check the basement, I think he wanted to put someone imaginary at the scene before he bolted for California.
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If so it is an interesting factoid that he chose to use a horror movie cliche, the mysterious sound in the cellar, to set up his alibi. Confirming that he watched a few too many of these movies perhaps....
 
peace_gurl said:
This is an important question why do you think he called the police The officer that did the check was a skinny cop. Do you think he wanted to kill a cop too? Gotta remember he made the intruder call shortly after the welfare check.
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Who knows, but it would have been really dumb. In both cases the dispatcher knew the officers were at the house.
 
tapu said:
Early on when this was being suggested, it didn't seem very likely to me. I just didn't imagine him, at that time, as being so intentionally set on certain types of kills, for example, that it might be why he killed a pastor. But the more that has been pointed out about how this went down, including where you said he might have expected the one guy and then got two others, then the more I have to let this idea in as a possibility. Also, there just seem to be no other satisfying theories for why he called.

On edit... I was just remembering: were there 4 icons that get killed in the video that ex-horrorcore guy was in? One was a priest? Was another a cop? And what were the others?
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In the video I think one was supposed to be a jewish person and one was supposed to be a muslim. I dont think Sam planned and killed the father because he was a priest, I think he killed him simply because he showed up at the house and wanted to know where the victims were.
 
Nikolai said:
In the video I think one was supposed to be a jewish person and one was supposed to be a muslim. I dont think Sam planned and killed the father because he was a priest, I think he killed him simply because he showed up at the house and wanted to know where the victims were.
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Seems likely given the use of a log on the father.

However, alternatively, he could have wanted another victim. This helps explain why he was hanging around the house after the initial killings which otherwise is pretty hard to explain. And there were four victims in the video.
 
Nikolai said:
I dont think he had any intention to kill the police officer who came to check the basement, I think he wanted to put someone imaginary at the scene before he bolted for California.
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I totally disagree!
 
dangrsmind said:
If so it is an interesting factoid that he chose to use a horror movie cliche, the mysterious sound in the cellar, to set up his alibi. Confirming that he watched a few too many of these movies perhaps....
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What a dumb thing for him to do when he knew there were two dogs and two cats down there. ....I am sure the officers laughed at him.
 
dangrsmind said:
So you suspect he was waiting for a fourth victim?
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Why on earth would you stay with 3 dead bodies for several days? He robbed the preacher....he could have used that money to get an early flight rather than hanging around. Surely he knew the bodies would tell the story of when they were killed. The professional clean up crew stayed at that house many, many days. A huge dumpster was placed outside the door for things that had to be thrown away. I dont believe he tried to clean up the crime scene. I believe he enjoyed his stay.
 
peace_gurl said:
Why on earth would you stay with 3 dead bodies for several days? He robbed the preacher....he could have used that money to get an early flight rather than hanging around. Surely he knew the bodies would tell the story of when they were killed. The professional clean up crew stayed at that house many, many days. A huge dumpster was placed outside the door for things that had to be thrown away. I dont believe he tried to clean up the crime scene. I believe he enjoyed his stay.
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Hmm. Seems like you suspect something more along the lines of a ritualistic killing or some type of corpse manipulation. And I am guessing that you have heard something that you aren't saying here.
 
peace_gurl said:
Why on earth would you stay with 3 dead bodies for several days? He robbed the preacher....he could have used that money to get an early flight rather than hanging around. Surely he knew the bodies would tell the story of when they were killed. The professional clean up crew stayed at that house many, many days. A huge dumpster was placed outside the door for things that had to be thrown away. I dont believe he tried to clean up the crime scene. I believe he enjoyed his stay.
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he robbed the preacher? i don't recall reading about it, only that he took the preacher's car. i do appreciate your input tho on the above information concerning the dumpster.
 
not just the dumpster, but the cleaning crew needing to be utilized for days and such.
 
maunsapt said:
not just the dumpster, but the cleaning crew needing to be utilized for days and such.
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Let me put it this way, two members of my family were murdered, we did not have to have a clean up team for a week to take care it and a dumpster was not needed
 
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