VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #2

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Hmmmm. I'm having problems figuring out how the dreadlocked guy could possibly be the same person who is seen walking next to her in the video taken from Tuel's. Sal's restaurant (Sal's Caffe Italia) is one block west of Tuel's Jewelers. Hannah is walking east, which means the dreadlocked guy in the foreground is walking west. Google maps says Tuel's is approximately 200 feet to the east of Sal's. We see the guy with the white shirt begin following her as she passes in front of Sal's. So for the dreadlocked guy to have caught up with her, he'd have had to turn around, increase his pace, and begin walking back east, as Hannah was walking quickly. If he'd done this, you'd think he would show up again in the first video (from Sal's) as he moved to catch up to Hannah. But that doesn't happen.
 
According to people on FB if Hannah keeps walking that same direction through the mall she should pass a bank with security camera on that side, hopefully that video will help shed some light on the reflection vs. dreads debate
 
I feel bad that if she was so drunk as to not recognize danger, she was allowed to just leave on her own on foot. No one, and nothing, apparently, can convince young people that danger is real. I am sure they all felt safe there.
 
parttimesleuther said:
According to people on FB if Hannah keeps walking that same direction through the mall she should pass a bank with security camera on that side, hopefully that video will help shed some light on the reflection vs. dreads debate
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that is very good news. the worst thing in the world would be for the footage to just stop.
 
Seems odd to me that Hannah would be lost at this point. She had to have been to this mall before, wouldn't you think? Makes me wonder if she had a reason to be there. I think this is the mall I went to with my dad several years ago. If it is, it's a nice mall. Not creepy or sketchy. Again... that is IF it's the same place.
 
leilarose68 said:
i thought they collecxted everything? with help from the merchants, how long could it take?
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The statement was.. Thursday they need to canvass the area for tapes to see which direction the black male went.
 
parttimesleuther said:
According to people on FB if Hannah keeps walking that same direction through the mall she should pass a bank with security camera on that side, hopefully that video will help shed some light on the reflection vs. dreads debate
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There is also a drugstore just east of Tuel's jewelers, and it is on the south side of the street, so if they have video (and every drugstore should have video, although whether they do/whether it is working is another matter) it might provide a closer/better image of who is walking with Hannah.
 
Dixie811 said:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=511722508972776

At this link... isn't the man continually shown following her wearing dark pants and a light shirt? But then at the very end when they show a man popping out of the doorway and following her, he looks bald with both light pants and light top-- no dark pants??
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I couldn't possibly tell you- my old flip phone took better video- but I did notice there were a decent amount of people walking in that area at the time she cruised through. Hopefully one or more will come forward.
 
necco said:
The dreads guy is wearing capri pants? Do men wear capri pants?
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his outfit looks almost cult-y. not saying that it is. just very strange attire. it's like, 'normal' but off in some way.
 
Biggles said:
Hmmmm. I'm having problems figuring out how the dreadlocked guy could possibly be the same person who is seen walking next to her in the video taken from Tuel's. Sal's restaurant (Sal's Caffe Italia) is one block west of Tuel's Jewelers. Hannah is walking east, which means the dreadlocked guy in the foreground is walking west. Google maps says Tuel's is approximately 200 feet to the east of Sal's. We see the guy with the white shirt begin following her as she passes in front of Sal's. So for the dreadlocked guy to have caught up with her, he'd have had to turn around, increase his pace, and begin walking back east, as Hannah was walking quickly. If he'd done this, you'd think he would show up again in the first video (from Sal's) as he moved to catch up to Hannah. But that doesn't happen.
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I'm a little hazy about the names of the stores, but what I see is a square/courtyard with umbrellas. He's on one side of it, walking left to right from, say, 7:00 to 4:00. As he's rounding the corner, she pops out (of a doorway? An entrance to the square? A street leading to the square?) at around the 2:00 position. He's pretty much on her heels at that point. Cut to around second video and around the 1:00 or 12:00 position and he has his arm around her, right before they pass the guy in the doorway who steps out behind. Dreads guy is walking counter-clockwise, and Hannah almost cuts him off also walking counter-clockwise. Then the video hops to other angles and other locations and things get more confusing.
 
long oversized shorts... y'all arent from the south :)

with a belly, one has to buy a bigger size, and button them "under the gut", making them longer on the leg, and bigger than neccessary everywhere but the waist.
looks like an oversized polo or oxford on top.
 
I really don't think that's her reflection .. And I wonder if that's why what the creeper said is being passed along (about other guy putting his arm around Hannah).
 
I think they are either really long shorts, or pants bunched up a bit on the bottom and baggy at the knee and thigh.
 
necco said:
The dreads guy is wearing capri pants? Do men wear capri pants?
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Many men wear over-sized shorts that long. Usually pulled down so far you can see their underwear. Not a fan of that style.
 
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