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turkey man
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Morgan Sighted At Concert
« on: October 23, 2009, 04:22:18 AM »
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What I am about to post has already been called into the tip line last night. My daughter and her husband went to the Metallica concert last Saturday night. They first noticed Morgan because she was standing in the stands and she was turned around taking pictures either with a camera or cell phone of people my daughter assumed she was with. Anyway she caught their attention because Morgan was standing in part of the seating that is very high up and a fall would have been not good. They were afraid she would fall. Later my daughter got kinda sick on the stomach because of the extreamly high seating and decided to go down closer to the main floor. Daughter spent the rest of the concert standing near one of the curtains by one of the passage ways to the stands. About 10 minutes before Metallica came on they seen Morgan again. This time Morgan fell flat on her face right in front of my daughter and son in law. She fell and hit her nose, My daughter and son in law helped her get to her feet. They report that this girl was stoned so bad she could not talk. They kept asking her if she was okay and she could not answer them. They told me that they didn't know if it was drugs or alcohol, they assumed that maybe is was pot she was on. After a few minutes Morgan turned and left through the curtain and out towards the hallways. That's it. My daughter is 100% positive that this girl was Morgan. She described the clothing to a "T" and I think it was Wednesday that she saw a picture of Morgan and they both said that this is the same girl that fell in front of them. They also said the Morgan did not appear to be with anyone at that time.
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 07:57:59 AM »
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If this was Morgan you saw she was NOT stoned. She was having a dissociative mental break.
There are other missing students like this, Brian Shaffer, Maura Murray, Michael Negrete, Josh Guimond, and Justin Gains. They all walked away and are all still missing. The oldest story is Ron Tammen. He was sighted three hours after he would have walked away from Miami of Ohio so confused he didn't know his name. The woman had no reason to know he was missing and allowed him to leave. That was fifty years ago. There are other cases on the Missing Students page at VisionAndPsychosis.Net.
The problem was discovered and solved forty years ago. Office workers using newly designed close-spaced workstations began to have mental breaks. The startle reflex was at fault. The cubicle was designed to deal with it by 1968.
The only thing left is to interview her roommate and friends to determine if she did have the behaviors to cause this event. If you know them send them to my site and use the contact page to reach me.
Many of these students recover or are found in altered mental states. Ahmad Arain left a bus in Watts and walked to Mexico losing thirty pounds on the way. He recovered enough to email home after six weeks. His family admitted he had a mental break. Matthew Wilson took money out of the bank then drove away from Rice in Houston. He was arrested eight months later in Berkeley, California and placed on suicide watch because of bizarre behavior. Hannah Upp, grad student and high school teacher disappeared while on her daily run. Although sighted several times using a computer in an Apple store she managed to evade police and friends until rescued while attempting suicide. She admitted a Dissociative Fugue event.
Getting massive publicity is paramount. She will probably recover and return unless there has been an accident or criminal act against her.
No school deliberately provides Cubicle Level Protection or warns students. A library carrel is full Cubicle Level Protection.
It's called Subliminal Distraction exposure. SD is explained in first semester psychology under the physiology of sight. Although you can learn to consciously ignore distracting movement when you concentrate to study or perform knowledge work you cannot prevent your brain subliminally detecting threat-movement and attempting the startle that would normally happen. Over weeks the suppression of the startle reflex leads to a mental event.
In the Design field, Systems Furniture, Cubicles, it is believed to cause only a harmless temporary episode of confusion. Designers and engineers see only that level of distress due to the exposure experienced in an eight hour daily work schedule.
In seven years of searching I have been unable to find anyone in medicine or psychiatry aware such a problem exists. Keep in mind that Designers use the information daily to build cubicles.
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 09:05:16 AM »
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That first reply is rediculous so I will ignore. To Turkey: What section were her seats? I'm surprised they've never mentioned this in the press.
You're description of your son and daughter doesn't really make sense. They were standing inside closed curtains on the main floor? Typically security won't let you do this anyway. If they saw her that means she was also within these curtains because you said that after she was helped up she left and went through the curtains and out. So she happened to be sitting next to them in the stands and then also happened to be near them in the lower section that they were in. What lower section were they standing in? If this is all true, maybe she knew someone in this section too. Surely the police can get a list of all ticket purchasers in this section. Apparently she was fine while in the upper section enough to take pictures of friends and not fall off, then down below (probably not long after) she was stoned as you say so if she did something or something was given to her it may have been by someone in that section.
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warlord
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 09:20:03 AM »
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Plus as it seems from the news reports, there was no indication from friends when she talked to them outside the venue that she seemed drunk or on drugs at all. You'd think that this would have been mentioned by the person that recieved her call when Morgan was talking about getting a ride back.
Something is interesting, is where did she leave her ticket? From the reports, she wasn't allowed back in because she no longer had her ticket. She did have her phone and her purse though that was recovered in the parking lot. It's strange that she would leave without it, unless it somehow got misplaced, but you would think that people would check before exiting that they had that on them to re-enter...
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 09:55:49 AM »
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To whiplash. Go back and read my post again. Realize that I am writing in the third person here. Main thing is I was just informing all, that this tip has been phoned in by the first person, my Daughter and it was last night so I doubt that it would have made the papers yet, may not ever make the papers. I have never been in the arena period and don't know how it's laid out. If my daughter and son in law says she was stoned then she was stoned. And I doubt that her friends would tell that part because they don't want to look bad and wanted to protect Morgan at this point. Of course all this will come out later if she doesn't show up pretty quick. Now as far as what section she was in when she fell on her face she was in a entrance way and not in a section per se. People would come through there from a lot of sections I'm told by my daughter.
Now there is a news report on TV this morning where a woman seen her in the parking lot with a guy holding her arm and she said it appeared that Morgan was either pushing back with her hands or the guy was pulling on her. It went off before I could see the rest of it. I'll catch it again.
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 12:42:13 PM »
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Here is the report from our local news station in Richmond, a video is also there.
http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=11369879
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karmalord
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #6 on: Today at 12:26:40 AM »
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Ok,if in fact she was taking pictures on her cell,they should have found them and recieved more clues when they found the phone. Did they bother to check? God I hope so. Sometimes I wonder at the pace cops have when investigating these things. They often miss what some see as the obvious.
1. She told her friends she would find her own way home?-never did I hear that on any news reports.
2. Friends she called must have asked her why she was outside. Natural response to her telling them she was outside would suggest. What are they hiding?
3. If she said she was going to the bathroom her friends surely would have gone with her. What girl goes to the bathroom alone at such an event when with other girls?
4. If she called her friends and said she couldnt get back in, what friend would just stay put and not go to help?
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Brent
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:42:28 AM »
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the only thing we should call news from the "media" is if only it is verified from Morgan's family. some things need to stay private and any positive leads they have or any information they have should be filtered through the family first. One thing you have to keep in mind is we're all suspects until they have solid evidence. The authorities have to be careful. I want to stay informed just like so many others but if your going to opine or take certain beliefs just make sure it has been verified by family.
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #8 on: Today at 03:27:10 AM »
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To Brent: In this kind of case nothing is private. It would seem to me that every tiny piece of information is important. Nothing I wrote can be verified by the family, how would they be able to verify that stuff, they were not there. Give me one thing that needs to stay private! The fact that she was stoned? I'm not verifying anything through the family. Okay so I should say to Morgan's family "Hey does your daughter do dope? What do you think they would tell me? You are suggesting that all leads and information should go through the family first before the cops to make sure that the info doesn't hurt anybody's feeling? Get real. This young lady is in mortal danger
Make no mistake and you can take it the bank, if my daughter says she was stoned, that means she came across as being stoned. That's what we're talking about here "appearance". She appeared to fall flat on her face and busted her nose. She appeared mot to be able to respond verbally because no words came out of her mouth. Get it?
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turkey man
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Morgan Sighted At Concert
« on: October 23, 2009, 04:22:18 AM »
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What I am about to post has already been called into the tip line last night. My daughter and her husband went to the Metallica concert last Saturday night. They first noticed Morgan because she was standing in the stands and she was turned around taking pictures either with a camera or cell phone of people my daughter assumed she was with. Anyway she caught their attention because Morgan was standing in part of the seating that is very high up and a fall would have been not good. They were afraid she would fall. Later my daughter got kinda sick on the stomach because of the extreamly high seating and decided to go down closer to the main floor. Daughter spent the rest of the concert standing near one of the curtains by one of the passage ways to the stands. About 10 minutes before Metallica came on they seen Morgan again. This time Morgan fell flat on her face right in front of my daughter and son in law. She fell and hit her nose, My daughter and son in law helped her get to her feet. They report that this girl was stoned so bad she could not talk. They kept asking her if she was okay and she could not answer them. They told me that they didn't know if it was drugs or alcohol, they assumed that maybe is was pot she was on. After a few minutes Morgan turned and left through the curtain and out towards the hallways. That's it. My daughter is 100% positive that this girl was Morgan. She described the clothing to a "T" and I think it was Wednesday that she saw a picture of Morgan and they both said that this is the same girl that fell in front of them. They also said the Morgan did not appear to be with anyone at that time.
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 07:57:59 AM »
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If this was Morgan you saw she was NOT stoned. She was having a dissociative mental break.
There are other missing students like this, Brian Shaffer, Maura Murray, Michael Negrete, Josh Guimond, and Justin Gains. They all walked away and are all still missing. The oldest story is Ron Tammen. He was sighted three hours after he would have walked away from Miami of Ohio so confused he didn't know his name. The woman had no reason to know he was missing and allowed him to leave. That was fifty years ago. There are other cases on the Missing Students page at VisionAndPsychosis.Net.
The problem was discovered and solved forty years ago. Office workers using newly designed close-spaced workstations began to have mental breaks. The startle reflex was at fault. The cubicle was designed to deal with it by 1968.
The only thing left is to interview her roommate and friends to determine if she did have the behaviors to cause this event. If you know them send them to my site and use the contact page to reach me.
Many of these students recover or are found in altered mental states. Ahmad Arain left a bus in Watts and walked to Mexico losing thirty pounds on the way. He recovered enough to email home after six weeks. His family admitted he had a mental break. Matthew Wilson took money out of the bank then drove away from Rice in Houston. He was arrested eight months later in Berkeley, California and placed on suicide watch because of bizarre behavior. Hannah Upp, grad student and high school teacher disappeared while on her daily run. Although sighted several times using a computer in an Apple store she managed to evade police and friends until rescued while attempting suicide. She admitted a Dissociative Fugue event.
Getting massive publicity is paramount. She will probably recover and return unless there has been an accident or criminal act against her.
No school deliberately provides Cubicle Level Protection or warns students. A library carrel is full Cubicle Level Protection.
It's called Subliminal Distraction exposure. SD is explained in first semester psychology under the physiology of sight. Although you can learn to consciously ignore distracting movement when you concentrate to study or perform knowledge work you cannot prevent your brain subliminally detecting threat-movement and attempting the startle that would normally happen. Over weeks the suppression of the startle reflex leads to a mental event.
In the Design field, Systems Furniture, Cubicles, it is believed to cause only a harmless temporary episode of confusion. Designers and engineers see only that level of distress due to the exposure experienced in an eight hour daily work schedule.
In seven years of searching I have been unable to find anyone in medicine or psychiatry aware such a problem exists. Keep in mind that Designers use the information daily to build cubicles.
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Whiplash
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 09:05:16 AM »
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That first reply is rediculous so I will ignore. To Turkey: What section were her seats? I'm surprised they've never mentioned this in the press.
You're description of your son and daughter doesn't really make sense. They were standing inside closed curtains on the main floor? Typically security won't let you do this anyway. If they saw her that means she was also within these curtains because you said that after she was helped up she left and went through the curtains and out. So she happened to be sitting next to them in the stands and then also happened to be near them in the lower section that they were in. What lower section were they standing in? If this is all true, maybe she knew someone in this section too. Surely the police can get a list of all ticket purchasers in this section. Apparently she was fine while in the upper section enough to take pictures of friends and not fall off, then down below (probably not long after) she was stoned as you say so if she did something or something was given to her it may have been by someone in that section.
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warlord
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 09:20:03 AM »
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Plus as it seems from the news reports, there was no indication from friends when she talked to them outside the venue that she seemed drunk or on drugs at all. You'd think that this would have been mentioned by the person that recieved her call when Morgan was talking about getting a ride back.
Something is interesting, is where did she leave her ticket? From the reports, she wasn't allowed back in because she no longer had her ticket. She did have her phone and her purse though that was recovered in the parking lot. It's strange that she would leave without it, unless it somehow got misplaced, but you would think that people would check before exiting that they had that on them to re-enter...
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 09:55:49 AM »
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To whiplash. Go back and read my post again. Realize that I am writing in the third person here. Main thing is I was just informing all, that this tip has been phoned in by the first person, my Daughter and it was last night so I doubt that it would have made the papers yet, may not ever make the papers. I have never been in the arena period and don't know how it's laid out. If my daughter and son in law says she was stoned then she was stoned. And I doubt that her friends would tell that part because they don't want to look bad and wanted to protect Morgan at this point. Of course all this will come out later if she doesn't show up pretty quick. Now as far as what section she was in when she fell on her face she was in a entrance way and not in a section per se. People would come through there from a lot of sections I'm told by my daughter.
Now there is a news report on TV this morning where a woman seen her in the parking lot with a guy holding her arm and she said it appeared that Morgan was either pushing back with her hands or the guy was pulling on her. It went off before I could see the rest of it. I'll catch it again.
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 12:42:13 PM »
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Here is the report from our local news station in Richmond, a video is also there.
http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=11369879
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karmalord
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #6 on: Today at 12:26:40 AM »
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Ok,if in fact she was taking pictures on her cell,they should have found them and recieved more clues when they found the phone. Did they bother to check? God I hope so. Sometimes I wonder at the pace cops have when investigating these things. They often miss what some see as the obvious.
1. She told her friends she would find her own way home?-never did I hear that on any news reports.
2. Friends she called must have asked her why she was outside. Natural response to her telling them she was outside would suggest. What are they hiding?
3. If she said she was going to the bathroom her friends surely would have gone with her. What girl goes to the bathroom alone at such an event when with other girls?
4. If she called her friends and said she couldnt get back in, what friend would just stay put and not go to help?
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:42:28 AM »
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the only thing we should call news from the "media" is if only it is verified from Morgan's family. some things need to stay private and any positive leads they have or any information they have should be filtered through the family first. One thing you have to keep in mind is we're all suspects until they have solid evidence. The authorities have to be careful. I want to stay informed just like so many others but if your going to opine or take certain beliefs just make sure it has been verified by family.
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turkey man
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Re: Morgan Sighted At Concert
« Reply #8 on: Today at 03:27:10 AM »
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To Brent: In this kind of case nothing is private. It would seem to me that every tiny piece of information is important. Nothing I wrote can be verified by the family, how would they be able to verify that stuff, they were not there. Give me one thing that needs to stay private! The fact that she was stoned? I'm not verifying anything through the family. Okay so I should say to Morgan's family "Hey does your daughter do dope? What do you think they would tell me? You are suggesting that all leads and information should go through the family first before the cops to make sure that the info doesn't hurt anybody's feeling? Get real. This young lady is in mortal danger
Make no mistake and you can take it the bank, if my daughter says she was stoned, that means she came across as being stoned. That's what we're talking about here "appearance". She appeared to fall flat on her face and busted her nose. She appeared mot to be able to respond verbally because no words came out of her mouth. Get it?
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