Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #7

[Wes]

I would also like to remind everyone of NK. He was brought up as hinky and to my knowledge - never dismissed. If the UVA basketball team had an open practice that night at UHall - then it would make sense that a sports fanatic such as NK would be there watching. I'm just saying - that would give him a reason to be there and before no one could be sure of why he would have been in the parking lot.

This is supposedly what he did that day:

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/nkscouting/page0140.html

 

[MBLover]

This is supposedly what he did that day:

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/nkscouting/page0140.html

Kind of overly specific with times...why would someone take note of times that have to do with mundane things??? Seems really odd to me...

 

[Wes]

Kind of overly specific with times...why would someone take note of times that have to do with mundane things??? Seems really odd to me...

I agree. But he may just be really odd.

 

[MBLover]

I agree. But he may just be really odd.

LOL...he may be really odd!

 

[part time prof]

LOL...he may be really odd!

Re: NK. I've done some fairly extensive looking into him. Here's what I think may be pertinent:

First of all, I believe he has changed residences since MH's disappearance. I looked him up when this first broke and recall he was listed living quite near JPJ. Now he's a ways away.

He starts the detailed time reporting of his activities only one or two reports prior to the 10/17 one, but this is not the first.

A few things about his reports:

On the October 17th trip, he reported 3 hours exactly as travel time from Charlottesville to Alexandria on 10/17, to cover 171 miles. That’s almost 60 mph with no stops, faster if he stopped. On the way back to Richmond, 102 miles in 2:08, arriving at 6:08. That's a reasonable 50 or so MPH.

If he then drove back to Charlottesville (70 miles), he would have been in the vicinity before MH disappeared.

On 10/22, according to his figures, he averaged 65 MPH to Newport News and 55 MPH on the return. On 10/29, according to his figures, he averaged 57 MPH overall to Chesterfield, south of Richmond, 65 MPH on I-64 and 44 MPH after turning off I-64 (stay with me here).

What jumped out at me are some possible inaccuracies he had in his November 6th entry, his last.

NK says it’s a 72 mile drive, but it's actually 98.2 miles from Kane Furniture to Lake Braddock High School in Burke, Virginia (108 circling through Reva). Suggested to have taken 2:49 (this makes the suggestion work out to 35 MPH), actually reported by NK at 3:16, but he reports at least 3 stops (7-11, Reva, Sheetz). Covering 98.2 miles in 3:16 is a 30 MPH average, and to cover his reported distance of 72 miles in 3:16 would work out to only 22 MPH!

Kane Furniture to Reva is 41.1 miles, estimated at 1:14, or 33 MPH. He says it took him from 1:48 p.m. to 3:06 p.m. including the stop at the Reva, Virginia gas station/post office convenience station. That’s 1:18, so about a four minute stop fits that.

Here’s where it gets interesting…he says 11 minutes later, at 3:17 p.m. he passed Eastern View High School, a new school just off 29-N at State Route 666. But that’s 13.2 miles, which he says he did in 11 minutes??? That would be 72 MPH.

He passed George Washington University at 4:34, one hour and 17 minutes after Eastern View High School. Another 53.2 miles in 1:17 (estimated at 1:19), 41 MPH.

Another 4.4 miles to Hunan West in Springfield, covered in 20 minutes…driving around deciding on dinner place? 1.2 miles to Lake Braddock high school.

The high school is 67.2 miles past Reva, estimated at 1:46. He says he covered all but about 4 miles of it from 3:06 to 4:34, 88 minutes. 63.2 miles in 88 minutes is a reasonable 43.2 MPH. But if we assume that 13.2 of those miles were covered in 11 minutes, that would leave 54 miles in 1:35...34 MPH.

I have driven 29-N and 66-E a lot before, and nobody averages in the 30's unless they are stopping to shop for antiques, eat, whatever...29 is 55 or 60, four lane highway from the outskirts of Charlottesville for 90 minutes where you pick up 66 (with some traffic lights on 29, but very few traffic snarls).

So, either he was driving really slowly that day, he was stopping a lot, or he didn't actually make that trip and made up a time line that fit what Google maps said it would take, give or take a few minutes, without considering that to do so would be driving much slower than the speed limit.

Thoughts? Sorry for the long post...

 

[Chili Fries]

Re: NK. I've done some fairly extensive looking into him. Here's what I think may be pertinent:

First of all, I believe he has changed residences since MH's disappearance. I looked him up when this first broke and recall he was listed living quite near JPJ. Now he's a ways away.

I've only found one address for him, on Lockesley. That was the address White Pages gave me the day he posted on Facebook and Zaba only has that one address for him in Charlottesville.

One thing that makes me think it wasn't him is because he is a real little guy. I think his Facebook profile listed himself as 120 pounds and from his pictures he doesn't look muscular. He was also very interested in finding a short woman to date. I know Morgan is very slim but it's something to consider.

From reading the find Morgan Facebook I know LE has been contacted multiple times about him. If they have a vehicle on a bank surveillance tape he could obviously be ruled out but if not I hope they have seriously looked into him and even checked some of the ice cream/yogurt shop parking lots for evidence. My hunch is that LE has a suspect in mind whether it's NK or not but that's obviously just a hunch at this point.

 

[MeoW333]

Does any one know if MH had a tattoo. (I don't see one in any of her pictures but its possible she got one after they were taken) I ask because there is a report of a female body (possibly partially burned) between 13-20 years old and approx 115 pounds being found in a state park in York Co, SC. No confirmation on race or hair color. A picture was shown of the tattoo and the arm appeared to be of a light skinned individual.

http://www.heraldonline.com/front/story/1748046.html

Melissa

The tattoo looks like a "tribal" design which is a common tattoo for people.
If Morgan had a tattoo, i'm sure her friends would know.
Sounds like they may have a serial down in Carolina..

 

[MeoW333]

Re: NK. I've done some fairly extensive looking into him. Here's what I think may be pertinent:

First of all, I believe he has changed residences since MH's disappearance. I looked him up when this first broke and recall he was listed living quite near JPJ. Now he's a ways away.

He starts the detailed time reporting of his activities only one or two reports prior to the 10/17 one, but this is not the first.

A few things about his reports:

On the October 17th trip, he reported 3 hours exactly as travel time from Charlottesville to Alexandria on 10/17, to cover 171 miles. That’s almost 60 mph with no stops, faster if he stopped. On the way back to Richmond, 102 miles in 2:08, arriving at 6:08. That's a reasonable 50 or so MPH.

If he then drove back to Charlottesville (70 miles), he would have been in the vicinity before MH disappeared.

On 10/22, according to his figures, he averaged 65 MPH to Newport News and 55 MPH on the return. On 10/29, according to his figures, he averaged 57 MPH overall to Chesterfield, south of Richmond, 65 MPH on I-64 and 44 MPH after turning off I-64 (stay with me here).

What jumped out at me are some possible inaccuracies he had in his November 6th entry, his last.

NK says it’s a 72 mile drive, but it's actually 98.2 miles from Kane Furniture to Lake Braddock High School in Burke, Virginia (108 circling through Reva). Suggested to have taken 2:49 (this makes the suggestion work out to 35 MPH), actually reported by NK at 3:16, but he reports at least 3 stops (7-11, Reva, Sheetz). Covering 98.2 miles in 3:16 is a 30 MPH average, and to cover his reported distance of 72 miles in 3:16 would work out to only 22 MPH!

Kane Furniture to Reva is 41.1 miles, estimated at 1:14, or 33 MPH. He says it took him from 1:48 p.m. to 3:06 p.m. including the stop at the Reva, Virginia gas station/post office convenience station. That’s 1:18, so about a four minute stop fits that.

Here’s where it gets interesting…he says 11 minutes later, at 3:17 p.m. he passed Eastern View High School, a new school just off 29-N at State Route 666. But that’s 13.2 miles, which he says he did in 11 minutes??? That would be 72 MPH.

He passed George Washington University at 4:34, one hour and 17 minutes after Eastern View High School. Another 53.2 miles in 1:17 (estimated at 1:19), 41 MPH.

Another 4.4 miles to Hunan West in Springfield, covered in 20 minutes…driving around deciding on dinner place? 1.2 miles to Lake Braddock high school.

The high school is 67.2 miles past Reva, estimated at 1:46. He says he covered all but about 4 miles of it from 3:06 to 4:34, 88 minutes. 63.2 miles in 88 minutes is a reasonable 43.2 MPH. But if we assume that 13.2 of those miles were covered in 11 minutes, that would leave 54 miles in 1:35...34 MPH.

I have driven 29-N and 66-E a lot before, and nobody averages in the 30's unless they are stopping to shop for antiques, eat, whatever...29 is 55 or 60, four lane highway from the outskirts of Charlottesville for 90 minutes where you pick up 66 (with some traffic lights on 29, but very few traffic snarls).

So, either he was driving really slowly that day, he was stopping a lot, or he didn't actually make that trip and made up a time line that fit what Google maps said it would take, give or take a few minutes, without considering that to do so would be driving much slower than the speed limit.

Thoughts? Sorry for the long post...

Why is this NK starting to detail his blubbering about times and mph speeds at all??
Would it be since he started spewing in the FB Find Morgan Group and now wants to not look like a suspect?
Or does he want attention?
Does he intentionally want to look like a nut? That is a lot of down to the times of things.
I'd normally say OCD, however he only started doing this after the fact..

PS- i think he's making up a timeline.. and that's not what he did that day necessarily

 

[MeoW333]

Also, the fact that he started detailed his reports prior to the 10/17, can we find out exactly when he started detailing them?
It seems he wanted it to look like he normally details them..

Sorry i'm answering my own question, i realized you put he started detailing his reports 1 or 2 prior to the example of the one you posted that he wrote on 10/17. So its seems he doesn't have an OCD and wants to make it look like he normally details them. He feels the need to tell the public his exact whereabouts when and where and what time.
He changes residences after Morgan disappeared.

It sounds like either one or two things
He is either involved somehow or indirectly involved (knows who is, may look up to them)
Or
He wants people to think he is involved, since he is one of those types that like the negative attention for god knows what reason.

 

[part time prof]

Why is this NK starting to detail his blubbering about times and mph speeds at all??
Would it be since he started spewing in the FB Find Morgan Group and now wants to not look like a suspect?
Or does he want attention?
Does he intentionally want to look like a nut? That is a lot of down to the times of things.
I'd normally say OCD, however he only started doing this after the fact..

PS- i think he's making up a timeline.. and that's not what he did that day necessarily

Sorry, just to clarify. That was my own research, about mileage and miles per hour and such, based on deconstructing NK's reports. His reports (one was linked in the original message above) were limited to incomplete bits of mileage, some specific times, things he was passing, songs he was hearing, that sort of thing.

That's why I think there's something wrong, in that in the account I pieced together there's an inconsistency that he didn't notice, or he was driving reallllly slow (or stopping for some unknown reason). It's a stretch, I know.

 

[part time prof]

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He changes residences after Morgan disappeared.

He wants people to think he is involved, since he is one of those types that like the negative attention for god knows what reason.

I well may have been wrong that he changed residences...that was from recollection and I've done a lot of searching of local maps and addresses...wonder who did live on Lewis Mountain Road?

I agree with your second point above, that he's probably just wanting to help in his own strange fashion.

Also agree that he is not a large man. Before he closed his Facebook page I noted that he says he is 5'0"...is a little unassuming guy perceived as safer?

 

[mark00]

never mind...

 

[Heroine]

I don't disagree that it was probably some sicko that grabbed her, and I think I was very careful to ask questions rather than state they were acting strangely or that anyone was a monster in this situation. Really, it's not about the blame to me as much as keeping focused on the search to find Morgan, and hoping LE has explored all threads.

I'm not trying to place blame on anyone when I last spoke of the bb players, but I do think at this point all options should be looked at. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Waddles]

At the time of his weird postings on FB it was mentioned that by members of the FB group that they were going to report him to LE.
Hopefully someone really did report him, just as a precaution if anything.

He was definitely reported to the head of MH's investigation at FBI (woman) as well as LE and tip line.

 

[Soulmagent]

Kind of overly specific with times...why would someone take note of times that have to do with mundane things??? Seems really odd to me...

t is even more odd that I saw 20 buzzards 7 miles from what I think is that sign in the truck picture.2 thursdays ago

And police where searching the area the picture was taken last tuesday I think might have been monday.My hubby told me this I will have to ask him.

 

[MeoW333]

I well may have been wrong that he changed residences...that was from recollection and I've done a lot of searching of local maps and addresses...wonder who did live on Lewis Mountain Road?

I agree with your second point above, that he's probably just wanting to help in his own strange fashion.

Also agree that he is not a large man. Before he closed his Facebook page I noted that he says he is 5'0"...is a little unassuming guy perceived as safer?

Thank you for the mileage clarification, i read it wrong. I was gonna say the guy was writing the times in that much, dang...

5'0 is very short for a guy, i'm sure his height has taken a toll on him emotionally. Being picked on, etc.

People could perceive short guys as safer, when in reality it is the individual person short, tall, etc who may or may not be safe. It's random.
I do see how people could assume he's safe due to his height. We have no idea what combat skills he knows or if he has weapons..

I also find it interesting that he is such an avid sports fan. With his height, i wonder if he did make the teams in high school or wanted to...

 

[crystalgenie]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I thought the LE already said they had reviewed all security cameras in the area and there was no sign of MH on any of the tapes.

Now as far as the 4 males and the 3 basketball players... I am going to assume this is two different eyewitness sightings... I seriously doubt, although I could be mistaken, the basketball players are involved. They are usually on scholarship and have too much to lose.

Now the hitch-hiking... The parents stated that they had friends in the area and that MH did not contact them. She could have because at the time she was outside the arena it wasn't late so there has to be a reason she didn't. All of this leads me to believe that MH was angry with one or both of the "friends" and she wasn't about to leave her car with them. So what happened to MH? Her mother said on HLN today that it just wasn't like her daughter to say she's going to the bathroom and wind up outside and that really none of this is making sense to her. I think MH got mad at the "friends" over something and walked off. I don't think there was any "kiss on the cheek" . (I don't buy that and never have.) I am not saying that the "friends" have anything to do, literally, with her disappearance all I am saying is that their silence is deafening!

I have a bad feeling that this case is growing colder by the day.

 

[wadahoot]

If my friend got locked out of the arena, i would at least have gave her her keys or the keys to the car to sit in it. The could have at the very least given her a key to get in the car, yet not for the ignition if they were concerned about her driving.
If it was Morgan's car it's very rude of her friends to not give her the keys! Either way, they should have been looking out for their friend.
.

Just a thought ... maybe, in their own eyes, the friends were looking out for Morgan. Perhaps they knew how stoned/drunk/whatever she was, and didn't want to give her the keys thinking she would A) drive unsafely and/or B) take off and leave them in the wrong town (either because she was out of it enough to space out giving them a ride, or out of spitefulness).

Food for thought

 

[MeoW333]

He was definitely reported to the head of MH's investigation at FBI (woman) as well as LE and tip line.

I am glad he was reported.
It seems he starts detailing his blogs of his whereabouts prior to 10/17, which is very interesting.
I have a question about that, can he change the dates on blogs to whatever dates he wants? Or does it automatically come up with the exact date it's posted with the inability to alter the date?

 

[MeoW333]

Just a thought ... maybe, in their own eyes, the friends were looking out for Morgan. Perhaps they knew how stoned/drunk/whatever she was, and didn't want to give her the keys thinking she would A) drive unsafely and/or B) take off and leave them in the wrong town (either because she was out of it enough to space out giving them a ride, or out of spitefulness).

Food for thought

I've thought about those as reasons for not giving her keys, as well.
It just seems they could have at least given her the key to unlock the door. The only way that wouldn't be possible is if the ignition & door key are one and the same, which very well may be the case. Maybe they didn't want to "babysit" her, however if they are such good friends as was said, that would be the proper thing to do, and they could still enjoy themselves. Maybe there was some bickering going on between them, i am thinking..

Keys aside, they could have at least tried to make sure she stayed near them. I wonder the circumstances that led to her going outside the arena. Metallica wasn't even on stage yet, and they were headlining the show..
I am guessing that she was going to Metallica play.

There were 3 bands playing. Most bands have other bands open for them, Lamb of God i think was one.. Some people are specific fans of a band and care to see the specific band play even more than the main act...