VA - Nicole Lovell, 13, Blacksburg, 27 January 2016 #3 *Arrests*

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wyome said:
It was reported that her blanket was missing, but was it recovered? So little information.

Could that evening be the first NL meetup with DE, and DE discovered then that she was a little girl and rejected her. NL couldn't handle another rejection and storm off alone on foot and was abducted?
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No, police said there was earlier sexual conduct. Might she have become pregnant? Or maybe it started with kissing but on that night he wanted to escalate or do something odd sexually?
 
If she was pregnant, they would have had sex almost immediately upon meeting (Jan 4?) to know that on Jan. 27 and then confront him with that.
 
wyome said:
If she was pregnant, they would have had sex almost immediately upon meeting (Jan 4?) to know that on Jan. 27 and then confront him with that.
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I think the January 4 date just comes from Keepers charging documents. From the "David A" screen capture and a source who is banned, they'd been in contact at least a month before that. Girls have been known to pull the practical joke of "I'm pregnant!" on a guy, too.
 
I'm catching up on this one, but have they said what her cause of death is yet? I know she was sick and needed medication too.

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Do we know if DE and NK was in a serious relationship?
Why did NL search out older guys for love so much?
When did she have her first love encounter?
Being hospitalized so much could she of been a sexual victim at a young age?
This hits home because I have a grand daughter that age.
I cannot remember the names, but I remember the crime.
A couple (in the military) killed a young girl years ago for the male to 'prove his love' to the female.
Is this what happened?
 
wyome said:
If she was pregnant, they would have had sex almost immediately upon meeting (Jan 4?) to know that on Jan. 27 and then confront him with that.
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I am really hoping this is not the case......I would think with all of her medical issues maybe she would have a very irregular cycle etc....I went through my DD phone last night (with her next to me) she had kik but only used it for one friend (her friends use hangouts to chat) and we decided together to delete it because even though her kik was private (yeah what a joke) occasionally she would get random notifications from people to start a conversation. She has IG but doesn't post (I have her IG on my phone) often and she doesn't seem to care a bit about Facebook at least right now.

Apparently there is an app for middle & high students only that is specific to the school you attend, after school I think its called. Then YikYak, 4Chan and all the others mentioned here. It's definitely hard for a parent to keep up......... I did a google search and came up with a list a mile long - most I have heard of but a couple I had not.....
 
InItToWinIt said:
I am really hoping this is not the case......I would think with all of her medical issues maybe she would have a very irregular cycle etc....I went through my DD phone last night (with her next to me) she had kik but only used it for one friend (her friends use hangouts to chat) and we decided together to delete it because even though her kik was private (yeah what a joke) occasionally she would get random notifications from people to start a conversation. She has IG but doesn't post (I have her IG on my phone) often and she doesn't seem to care a bit about Facebook at least right now.

Apparently there is an app for middle & high students only that is specific to the school you attend, after school I think its called. Then YikYak, 4Chan and all the others mentioned here. It's definitely hard for a parent to keep up......... I did a google search and came up with a list a mile long - most I have heard of but a couple I had not.....
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From my kid, I know Facebook is about dead with the kids. I suspect they don't like their parents seeing everything and they don't want their friends to see them tagged in mom's embarrassing photos. Twitter was hot but died off quite a bit, too. Instagram is still pretty active with them but a lot of activity has now moved to SnapChat. I think YikYak is the one that seems to largely be used for bullying. I haven't heard my child mention the slightest interest in it... yet.
 
Apparently they are saying the motive was that Nicole was going to expose the relationship. Expose is an interesting word use to use. I feel like if Nicole just wanted to share about her new BF on social media, David could convince her not to? He could tell that college kids don't do that anymore or whatever, I feel like she would likely listen to what he said. But what if Nicole threatened to expose their relationship because she knew it was illegal or at least would look very bad for him. Nicole may not have even been serious---just desperate in the moment.
 
About NK:

"When I saw her (mug shot) photo, I didn't know who it was. I thought that was the victim, because it didn't look anything like I knew her," said Stan Arnold, Keepers' high school math teacher in Columbia, Maryland. "She always came across as being bubbly and happy and excited about her future."

Keepers played junior varsity soccer at Hammond High School but wasn't a standout athlete like Eisenhauer. Her interests seemed more diverse as she joined the math team and Model United Nations and became a member of the National Honor Society and the National Science Honor Society. She acted in plays, helped direct the musical "Seussical" and taught science at a summer Bible camp. In 2014, she interned at a NASA facility in Maryland, and she planned to double-major in aerospace and ocean engineering and naval engineering. "My field of study is due to my fascination in the foundations of aircrafts, boats, and submarines. After college, I plan to hopefully get a job with the government or an aerospace or ocean company."

about DE:

"The David I knew had his faults, but this is beyond the scope of imagination," said the note, which was addressed to Eisenhauer. "Did something happen to you that would cause a complete change, or was this newly surfaced personality always there, lurking in the shadows, hiding amidst lies? And if it was, how did you hide it so well?"

Eisenhauer had a goal of working for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which develops technology for the military.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/...pects-from-va-tech-still-a-mystery-1.11427644
 
Tssiemer said:
Is that a troll comment?


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No, sorry. It was to answer a previous question about cause of death...and I didn't reference with quotes. (Still a bit unaccustomed to the workings of how the forum posts work.)
 
ALH86 said:
I am from the area as well, and I would say that the distance from her home to the middle of campus would be a 2-3 mile walk so it could be plausible that she could of at least walked to the campus and met up with DE somewhere there or met in between.
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My guess is that DE met her very close to her house. A 13 year old walking alone at night might attract the attention of police patrols. Likewise, even 13 year olds with a set goal (meet "boyfriend"), might hesitate to walk alone at night to an area that they had never been to before.

DE, like most predators, probably wanted to make it very easy for her to meet him. No complicated instructions, no relatively long walks to strange places. Rather: "Just get out of your house and down the block or two. I will come to you".

Surely this guy is qualified for the Virginia death penalty?
 
InItToWinIt said:
I am really hoping this is not the case......I would think with all of her medical issues maybe she would have a very irregular cycle etc....I went through my DD phone last night (with her next to me) she had kik but only used it for one friend (her friends use hangouts to chat) and we decided together to delete it because even though her kik was private (yeah what a joke) occasionally she would get random notifications from people to start a conversation. She has IG but doesn't post (I have her IG on my phone) often and she doesn't seem to care a bit about Facebook at least right now.

Apparently there is an app for middle & high students only that is specific to the school you attend, after school I think its called. Then YikYak, 4Chan and all the others mentioned here. It's definitely hard for a parent to keep up......... I did a google search and came up with a list a mile long - most I have heard of but a couple I had not.....
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Great to hear you and your daughter decided to delete kik together...making her part of that decision is golden.

I'm really clueless about all this new technology. My daughter's a junior in college in a large city, and I remember when she first went away I was worried about subways and muggings and random crime. I don't think I once worried about who she might talk to on a phone app.
 
Yes I do think SnapChat is the choice of the moment (at least at her school) and we won't let her have it. She can text or call. She only got a smartphone (and not a "good one" either lol) this year (7th grade) and most if not all of her friends had them as early as 4th and almost all of them by 5th. DH made her deal (her words) with a burner flip phone forever and I think that curtailed some of the interest in social media since she didn't have ability until now and she's kind of over it. Although I realize as a teenager that could flip in the blink. The photo/text hiding apps worry me and apparently kids have used dropbox and google docs for sharing pics etc. I use these at work all the time.........:gaah:

One thing DH insists on is that her phone lives in our room or the family room (just outside our room) after 9 pm until she gets up in the morning.
 
you have a link to the hearing? If it's being broadcast?
 
My wife and I and our Daughter and Son all together deleted kik from their cell phones.
 
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