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I think that's like comparing bananas and asparagus. The context is different, the circumstances are different. In her case, a defendant is wanting mitigating factors and excuses for a sadistic murder and one can suspect a desire for secondary gain.But more importantly, this was not a trial about paedophilia, and she was not a victim of it. So, in my estimation, the defendant who is found guilty of a first degree heinous murder is required to prove their allegations of paedophilia and justify why that matters to mitigation because she was not directly a victim.Originally Posted by Frigga![]()
I am totally onboard with Travis law, and completely agree that the system needs to change, but in terms of the pedophile allegation and never being able to bring that up unless there is proof- well, just think about the flip side of that, and what that would mean for true victims? That would be a very dangerous precedence and a slippery slope- IMO.
Does anyone else believe the jury may have reached a verdict Thursday but the judge said it was too late to announce it and it would be better to do it on Monday? Why was JW and her minion there with clothes for JA? Why was the Alexanders there? Why did that nitwit Angela (JA's sister) say they will find out about JA's fate on Monday. Did JA's mother tell her that. Sandy told J Gold she would not be there for the verdict. I think she knows what it will be. But too much happened at the courthouse late Thursday. I bet they announce a verdict Monday morning. I hope so, the suspense is killing me.
--------------Does anyone else believe the jury may have reached a verdict Thursday but the judge said it was too late to announce it and it would be better to do it on Monday? Why was JW and her minion there with clothes for JA? Why was the Alexanders there? Why did that <modsnip> Angela (JA's sister) say they will find out about JA's fate on Monday. Did JA's mother tell her that. Sandy told J Gold she would not be there for the verdict. I think she knows what it will be. But too much happened at the courthouse late Thursday. I bet they announce a verdict Monday morning. I hope so, the suspense is killing me.
Does anyone know if any of Travis' friends had a yellow truck? I just keep thinking about her writing about the dream and a yellow truck. Was she trying to set someone up I wonder?
JA: "I had a dream last night that two people were charged in the case of Travis Alexander. One person was charged with murder, and one was charged with conspiracy. The one charged with murder was in custody, and the one charged with conspiracy was not yet arrested on some contingency having to do with legal matters in some jurisdiction, like FBI or something. I was riding in someone`s yellow truck when I got the call. It was raining outside. Anyway, keep praying."
I can see the jury notifying the court deputy that they had reached a verdict then the bailiff takes the verdict to JSS and she notifies the DT and PT and then dithers about thinking it is getting late and after notifing the media one hour ahead it would make it later still, so finally she decides to wait until Monday morning and tells jury to go home and come back monday and then told the DT and PT. JW leaves court and so does Juan and then the family. But they won't tell anyone because Juan told them not too. DT told Sandy too but her loud mouthed daughter twitted it out there that they would know JA fate on Monday. I could be all wrong about this but it does explain all the odd behavior late Thursday afternoon. JMHO
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I think its possible. Some do not realize the verdict takes an amount of time. Papers must be read , Judge speaks , all sorts of things. They wouldn't have been out of there til 10pm. or so. I am sure the jury was tired. That has to be a mind stretching decision no matter which way it goes. Just think~ a week from now she will most likely be in her new home! :laughing:
Can you please dumb this down for me as I clearly don't understand. She brought the pics? thumb drive or sd card? altered the exif data? Put them on Travis' camera or the roommates? Then deleted the photos? Why? she could have added them to the computer easy peasy.
I believe she brought the memory card with her (to Mesa on June 4th) that had the already-deleted nude pics on it. I don't think she could have altered the EXIF data on either the nudes (very little of the EXIF data left as it was) and it would have been apparent if she tried with the shower photos. I think she put that memory card into Travis' camera and took the shower pics. When the memory card was retrieved from the washer and opened on Melendez computer he found the shower/accidental pics plus fragments (thumbnails) of the nudes. Why would she add pics to the computer - and which computer?
I believe she brought the memory card with her (to Mesa on June 4th) that had the already-deleted nude pics on it. I don't think she could have altered the EXIF data on either the nudes (very little of the EXIF data left as it was) and it would have been apparent if she tried with the shower photos. I think she put that memory card into Travis' camera and took the shower pics. When the memory card was retrieved from the washer and opened on Melendez computer he found the shower/accidental pics plus fragments (thumbnails) of the nudes. Why would she add pics to the computer - and which computer?
Was it true that JM showed up Thursday? I thought that was tweeted. That's why I thought there might have been a verdict. I'm hoping Monday and I had a good feeling when I read that the jurors were seen smiling while leaving.I do think its possible. Just not sure.
One of the main things that happened where it hints this could be true is them bringing some clothes for JA. That kind of chalks up a point for this theory for me.
Even if it didnt happen, I do really think Monday may be the day regardless. Hope so anyway.![]()
JMO
For me personally, I think some pics were added by Jodi manually to Travis camera (somehow copied), PLUS she obviously took some real ones too. The shower photos, the foot in hallway photo, etc.
So to me BOTH happened. I am not convinced they had sex on that particular day. I think some of the photos she copied make it appear that way.
The 2 that were mentioned a little bit ago I agree could have just been Jodi taking pictures of travis while he slept and he caught her in the last photo where he appears to throw the KY. But that doesnt mean to me that they had sex that day.
For example, what if she had snuck in just then and was surprising him and she may have thrown the KY at him and asked if she could jump in the sack. He may have just woke up and threw it back at her, and not being pleased she was even there.
It doesnt really matter much to me if they did have sex that day. Its just I am not convinced they did yet. Because I do think she copied some of the sexual photos onto his camera somehow.
The main reaons i think that is some of them just look "funny" and not quite right. They look to me to have been taken on a different day and different time. Especially the Goldilocks one...LOL
Anyway, none of it matters a whole lot now. I just wish we could someday know the truth about everything and I doubt we will ever get that.
Jodi is like the boy who cried wolf. Someday if she ever tells us the real truth, i wont believe her. LOL