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I wish more posters would * try* to dispute and/ or explain away all of the above as a whole instead of taking them one by one...bc taking one of them at a time ....sure you can twist it in JY's favor (well, not really in my opinion, but for arguments sake...) but I don't see how one can dispute ALL of it on a whole.
Because it just doesn't make sense .....unless an episode of the Twlight Zone is being pitched. Btw, a BIG thank you for all of your info on this case. You provided a lot of it. Thanks also for taking the time to correct any and all misinformation. That's important, so I appreciate you taking the time to do it.
I hope MY and her family get the justice they so rightfully deserve.
Moo. Moo. Moo.
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the witnesses say that Michelle had a sad side to her. Was it only after she met Jason, or did she always have a sad side to her?
I got as far as the rock and got stuck. Everything up to the camera (except for the murder) can be explain, both times, but add the rock ???, it's pretty hard to explain without involving that strong wind ... while someone was leaving through the fire exit door at the bottom of the stairwell, rather than entering the hallway and leaving through the non-emergency door (the one with the keycard access).
Has anyone else wondered why Jason didn't just say that he put a rock in the door and thought that the guy behind him kicked out the rock?
I was going to re listen because at first this caught me off guard. But then after thinking about it I suppose my friends and family would say I have a "sad side." So, putting it into prespective I don't find anything off putting about this statement. I just jumped the gun with my reply. Probably because I definitely should be sleeping now. :bedtime:
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Yes, I def wondered that at one point, but I came to the conclusion that he wanted to distance himself from the rock... he needed the rock guy to be associated with the tampered cameras. He was just the innocent, cigar smoking twig guy!!!
Yep those pesky "just coincidences."
So we have separate killers (maybe up to 10 or more?) who each left one finger print in the Young house. They all, individually, entered the home at the same time, without needing to use any force to enter the home, and committed the murder. But none of them touched more than one or 2 items the entire time. A couple of them made sure to touch papers laying on the printer in the office. Another one made sure to touch the top of the Tylenol Rapid Blast bottle in CY's room. One of them might have even run the vacuum upstairs, but missed one step (thoughtless). None of these people have ever had their fingerprints put in a LE database, so that's helpful!
Then we have a mystery hotel camera tamperer (and perhaps 2--one who only unplugs cameras and the other who only moves cameras to point at the ceiling), both staying at the same HI as JY the night his wife was murdered. Both were fixated on the same camera, covering the same west exit door that got propped by (two I guess) people. Convenient!
We also have a mystery door propper who likes and uses rocks or landscaping lava rocks to prop a door, staying in the same hotel the night as JY also props the same door but with a twig. I guess that person either knows or approves of the camera-moving mystery peeps.
All these various mystery people were able to keep themselves from being on camera on 11/2/06 - 11/3/06, so to add to the list, they have the power of invisibility!
The mystery HI peeps obviously stole JY's dark pullover, pants, and rounded toe shoes so that those items could not be found ever again. Boo. Not nice!
Pretty much every single post you make is spot on!Yep those pesky "just coincidences."
So we have separate killers (maybe up to 10 or more?) who each left one finger print in the Young house. They all, individually, entered the home at the same time, without needing to use any force to enter the home, and committed the murder. But none of them touched more than one or 2 items the entire time. A couple of them made sure to touch papers laying on the printer in the office. Another one made sure to touch the top of the Tylenol Rapid Blast bottle in CY's room. One of them might have even run the vacuum upstairs, but missed one step (thoughtless). None of these people have ever had their fingerprints put in a LE database, so that's helpful!
Then we have a mystery hotel camera tamperer (and perhaps 2--one who only unplugs cameras and the other who only moves cameras to point at the ceiling), both staying at the same HI as JY the night his wife was murdered. Both were fixated on the same camera, covering the same west exit door that got propped by (two I guess) people. Convenient!
We also have a mystery door propper who likes and uses rocks or landscaping lava rocks to prop a door, staying in the same hotel the night as JY also props the same door but with a twig. I guess that person either knows or approves of the camera-moving mystery peeps.
All these various mystery people were able to keep themselves from being on camera on 11/2/06 - 11/3/06, so to add to the list, they have the power of invisibility!
The mystery HI peeps obviously stole JY's dark pullover, pants, and rounded toe shoes so that those items could not be found ever again. Boo. Not nice!
RSBBMI recall Linda Fisher's testimony, something to the effect of 'her michelle not being the same girl she had been.' 'Happy, fun-loving, jovial, love of life.' That 'this michelle was laying with her head in her mom's lap, looking broken.' I think had michelle had a bit more time, a few more therapy sessions, she would have been able to think clearly enough to see that 'she wasn't the problem, he was. JMO
IME the only true emotion of someone afflicted with antisocial personality disorder is anger.If he were really a sociopath, I wouldn't expect him to lose his cool and scream at Gracie at the gas station.
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/paranoidnarcissismspectrum.htmlMost Personality Disordered people are prone to anger. Their bottled-up anger is always sudden, raging, frightening and without apparent provocation by an outside agent. It would seem that people suffering from personality disorders are in a CONSTANT state of anger, which is effectively suppressed most of the time. It manifests itself only when the person's defenses are down, incapacitated, or adversely affected by circumstances, inner or external.
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I wish more posters would * try* to dispute and/ or explain away all of the above as a whole instead of taking them one by one...bc taking one of them at a time ....sure you can twist it in JY's favor (well, not really in my opinion, but for arguments sake...) but I don't see how one can dispute ALL of it on a whole.
Because it just doesn't make sense .....unless an episode of the Twlight Zone is being pitched. Btw, a BIG thank you for all of your info on this case. You provided a lot of it. Thanks also for taking the time to correct any and all misinformation. That's important, so I appreciate you taking the time to do it.
I hope MY and her family get the justice they so rightfully deserve.
Moo. Moo. Moo.
I'm going to listen to SS's testimony again for this. I do not recall SS saying "MY had a sad side to her long before she met JY." I guess we all have " sad sides" at time or another. Before MY met JY she was a NC State college cheerleader and most people who knew MY testified to her always smiling, happy, fun, enjoyed life, wanted to be married and have kids. I will re listen though.
Moo.moo.moo.
Maybe he's a third player ... rock guy, camera guy, cigar and twig guy. I think that's the defense theory. One guy came along and propped the door with a rock. There were about 50 guests in the hotel that night, so that's possible. A sports team or conference group could have been at the hotel (although that should have been inroduced by the defense if it happened) and maybe tipped the camera to avoid being caught in their indescretions. If that didn't happen, then perhaps some random teenager unplugged the camera as a prank and the camera was not properly secured after Elmer re-plugged it at 5:35 AM. Perhaps the camera tilted by itself in the next hour (I wouldn't put it past the prosecution to omit footage that may have shown the camera slowly tilting toward the ceiling - given what I've seen so far).
The warmly dressed guy (wearing a couple of shirts) with the cigar put a twig in the emergency door as he exited the hotel on a cold, 20 mph windy night. He hovered by the keycard door, smoked a cigar, read the newspaper and then returned to the emergency door, removed the twig and entered his room unseen. He was not seen again that night, not even in the morning even though we know that he was there in the morning.
As a GUILTY stickler, this verdict will be be very telling as the trial has been draining.The problem with all of this is that a person shouldn't have to go through all this hypothesis to explain away this many different circumstances with this many different possibilities. There are numerous possibilities one can imagine. But at what point does one say..wait a second :waitasec: . How are this many circumstances that we have to explain away with all these different possibilities and explanations. Out of all of this, what is probable versus what is possible?
The whole thing with propping open doors is just not your normal activity when staying in a hotel to begin with. Then the cameras, then the defendants own explanations about cigar versus no friend ever having said they knew of him to smoke cigars, then the clothes that were seen in the camera never to be seen again, well...you now where this is going.
There is just too much. Yes, parsing it you can find multiple possible explanations for each circumstance, but is that reasonable to have to do so for one night, for one person, that just happens to be the same night his wife is murdered?
I don't think it is reasonable.
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