Victim: Alexis Murphy, 17, missing from Shipman, VA, 03 August 2013 - #4

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The guy that RAT is describing does in fact exist. As a matter of fact, I have seen him twice in the past 2 days. He has been at my children's school the past two mornings. Of course I did not notice anything about him (demeanor, looks) because I had no idea he was a person of interest.

Then you should probably call it in, once they clear that guy which I believe they highly likely will they can hush the people who are taking RAT's defense.

Remember this guy liked to sit at Food Lion and watch people, at any time he could just pick a description of someone to use as an example to have himself look innocent.

Notice he said she did not drink or smoke, that sounds strange if she is someone who is an active drug user with her drug of choice being weed. Maybe he is hinting at the state of her if she is found, implying that a toxicology report would say she had no drugs in her system, that would fit into his story.
Also, this allows him a scapegoat for that hair being found in his trailer.

This sounds a lot like what he did with the SC case he had no idea where she was and again they had evidence linking him to her, by the means of him calling her before she disappeared, maybe it was to try and locate a cell phone? Who knows but the point is that he likes to make up stories to cover himself and at the same time explain why he was in the ultimate proximity of the victim on the day of the disappearance.

Typical tactic of a psychopath "main traits of a psychopath: A callous, exploitive individual with blunted emotions, impulsive inclinations and an inability to feel guilt or remorse."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...//crime.about.com/od/serial/a/psychopaths.htm

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/psychopaths.htm

Again, JMO backed by sources.
 
The guy that RAT is describing does in fact exist. As a matter of fact, I have seen him twice in the past 2 days. He has been at my children's school the past two mornings. Of course I did not notice anything about him (demeanor, looks) because I had no idea he was a person of interest.

interesting....
is he known as the "pot dealer" or is this man throwing accusations at a random dude he's seen around town or even in the past with AM.
 
Then you should probably call it in, once they clear that guy which I believe they highly likely will they can hush the people who are taking RAT's defense.

Remember this guy liked to sit at Walmart and watch people, at any time he could just pick a description of someone to use as an example to have himself look innocent.

(snipped by me for space)

I thought it was Food Lion where he sat and watched people?
 
Regarding AM's marijuana use in general, I would be surprised if she hadn't used it at age 17 in Nelson. I'd say probably 60ish% of the high school has. Within her social group, probably more like 90%. Very popular there, due in large part to ease of acquisition. It's cultivated a lot in the area.

It's sort of Nelson County's main crop. In 2011 the State Police confiscated over 5000 plants.
 
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[Searching through the gully, one canine handler shouted, “We found it!”]

10 ft off of the road, the gully.

Whose property would that be; utility or highway easement, or part of the owner's land?? In my state, it is an easement.

? if it makes any difference in the case at all- just curious.

I wouldn't necessarily trust the estimated distances that media report. It could very well be like fishing stories.


The guy that RAT is describing does in fact exist. As a matter of fact, I have seen him twice in the past 2 days. He has been at my children's school the past two mornings. Of course I did not notice anything about him (demeanor, looks) because I had no idea he was a person of interest.


I was figuring he was a real person all along. I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Do you think he is a parent of a child at your school? Or sibling? I do hope you will keep your eyes peeled - though I am sure you will. And yes, you may want to call it in. I think all avenues need to be explored whether we believe his story or not.
 
I feel much more comfortable knowing this guy is behind bars while the continue to collect evidence. There are to many coincidences and now he just comes out and admits she was on his property but she didn't smoke or drink anything? I don't buy it at all. IMO, he is creating a story for a hair being found....after LE told him they found a hair?

I don't for a minute think this girl would be willingly on his property hanging out with him and supposedly the cornrow guy, when she could be doing so many other things with friends.
 
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3) remember that all comments under articles are considered rumors.

Thanks folks!:seeya:

Thanks. I forgot! I was just going back to edit when I see you beat me to it. :seeya:
 
I feel much more comfortable knowing this guy is behind bars while the continue to collect evidence. There are to many coincidences and now he just comes out and admits she was on his property but she didn't smoke or drink anything? I don't buy it at all. IMO, he is creating a story for a hair being found....after LE told him they found a hair?

I don't for a minute think this girl would be willingly on his property hanging out with him and supposedly the cornrow guy, when she could be doing so many other things with friends.

And the truth could be that they found his hair in her car even. Just tripping him up.
 
RAT's attorney said that RAT told LE his side of the story already. I don't think this "other" guy would be so hard to find based on the description. IMO, if he's out there as someone else stated, I would think that LE has already talked to him. Based on the past screw up of LE in the other case with RAT, they are NOT going to want to do anything wrong in this case, which is why I believe the FBI came in right away.
 
I feel much more comfortable knowing this guy is behind bars while the continue to collect evidence. There are to many coincidences and now he just comes out and admits she was on his property but she didn't smoke or drink anything? I don't buy it at all. IMO, he is creating a story for a hair being found....after LE told him they found a hair?

I don't for a minute think this girl would be willingly on his property hanging out with him and supposedly the cornrow guy, when she could be doing so many other things with friends.

I agree and if she was into weed so much why wouldnt she smoke it. She just hooked both of them up so they would surely share with her. I think he heard reports before she was arrested.
 
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3) remember that all comments under articles are considered rumors.

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So, are we not allowed to use quotes from a source or do we have to paraphrase the information taken out of the article?
 
RAT's attorney said that RAT told LE his side of the story already. I don't think this "other" guy would be so hard to find based on the description. IMO, if he's out there as someone else stated, I would think that LE has already talked to him. Based on the past screw up of LE in the other case with RAT, they are NOT going to want to do anything wrong in this case, which is why I believe the FBI came in right away.

I agree. Corn Row Dude is real, and certainly RAT knew at least a first name or nickname. Local LE would be familiar with Corn Row Dude if he is a "known" dealer, and if very few in the area wear rows. So, LE would have already talked with Corn Row Dude by now and are watching him closely.

Any DNA on on Icehouse bottle could be from another date and just sat on the table if RAT wasn't a tidy up kind of guy. So that part makes no matter.

If there was a struggle and that is how Alexis' hair got there, then Corn Row's DNA would be around the struggle area too. Although it is a small camper, so I guess once you are in, your DNA is all over the place, especially if you sneeze.
 
So, are we not allowed to use quotes from a source or do we have to paraphrase the information taken out of the article?

Paraphrase community comments. The people that leave comments at the end of an article.
 
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And the comment about the gully 10 feet off the road. This is a google image just past the driveway into the property and it looks as if it dips down quite a bit. I wonder if this is what they are referring to as the gully.

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