WA - Cascade Mall, 5 fatalities, Burlington, 23 Sept 2016 *Arrest*

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Indy Anna said:
I was thinking that, too. I won't be surprised if he did, but wonder where?
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I dont know, think family murder /sucide deal.

How many shots can someone do from that type of weapon?


I think there is something signifgant about the male female victim numbers - wish we could see the layout of that exact macy store . I keep thinking if it was not family / gfiend etc why would you go specifically to a section?
 
CARIIS said:
See what you do - see - I was gonna take my Lunesta -now it is your fault that i cant !! Am a forgiving person tho!
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Know what you mean. I took medication that makes me drowsy several hours ago and I'm sleepy! (I'm also on EST). But, who can sleep until the gunman is either apprehended or found deceased?
 
CARIIS said:
I dont know, think family murder /sucide deal.

How many shots can someone do from that type of weapon?


I think there is something signifgant about the male female victim numbers - wish we could see the layout of that exact macy store . I keep thinking if it was not family / gfiend etc why would you go specifically to a section?
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I can't tell what kind of rifle it is. I tried to see if it looked like he had extra ammunition on him, but couldn't see well enough.
 
KIRO 7 live
Briefing now 8 am next
Situation 90 %
Trooper: Mall almost, not quite, northern most part left
perimeter security
4 females deceased confirmed inside Macy's
One male very critical transported to Harbor View
Non critical injury not the case
Suspect - Close hair cut a little bit scruffy
Working on tracking down tips
Many LE from surrounding helping
Shooting in the make-up area
Multiple have called claiming to be the shooter, frustrating, takes time away
Inconclusive that he was within two blocks
Seattle Swat presence - LE is following leads in Kings County
8 am briefing will cover investigation
May have caught ride out, (but seemed speculative related to King's County)
Trooper's Briefing above
 
Indy Anna said:
Sorry, I don't know anything about firearms.
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Dont apolgize- we just have to look at the numbers! I am with you. Seems as if it is a myth that if evryone is walking all over the place packing heat we would not be here discussing another shooting in USA - while the rest of the world goes about thier lives with not a bang, or blood , or death, or terror!

moo

the only example I remeber is s wal mart one where a citizen was armed and tried to stop something and he ended up 6 feet under.
 
FindHG said:
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His shoes, the shape of his head (could be distortion?) and hairline seem odd to me. The light reflects on his nose and around his eyes in a different way.
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It looks like he may be wearing sunglasses or maybe eyeblack around his eyes (Goth look?) and a skull cap over his head.
 
He he. OUr officer totally different in the group setting than with female reporter! Hands on hip , serious , he he

How rude the kiro reporter just starts his report standing 2 feet away from the guy giving the presser


I am completly lost - anyone else, THis started hours ago. They are saying all the victims in the makeup area. Why would it take 6 hours , in one dept , to dxetermine how many people are deceased?

If they were all over the mall makes sense. DId I miss something.

I am not trying to be graphic, but when you get on scene it seems like you would see xx number of motionless people. It seems you would count, by looking, get gender, and than it is taken care.

It was not like anyone has since died , so why are thnumbers so odd>>
 
Indy Anna said:
It looks like he may be wearing sunglasses or maybe eyeblack around his eyes (Goth look?) and a skull cap over his head.
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looks like his forehead is purple! Those lights in makeup dept - just make everyone look ggoorrggeeoouussss dahling!

Anyone know anything about SWAt downtown he stated?
 
CARIIS said:
looks like his forehead is purple! Those lights in makeup dept - just make everyone look ggoorrggeeoouussss dahling!

Anyone know anything about SWAt downtown he stated?
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Indy Anna said:
It looks like he may be wearing sunglasses or maybe eyeblack around his eyes (Goth look?) and a skull cap over his head.
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It could be just shadow, I think I can make out his eye through it. What's odd is if you high contrast the eye socket, it is the part of the face that reflects light differently, like a mask of sorts, not that it is, just looks that way, I think.

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FindHG said:
KIRO 7 live
Briefing now 8 am next
Situation 90 %
Trooper: Mall almost, not quite, northern most part left
perimeter security
4 females deceased confirmed inside Macy's
One male very critical transported to Harbor View
Non critical injury not the case
Suspect - Close hair cut a little bit scruffy
Working on tracking down tips
Many LE from surrounding helping
Shooting in the make-up area
Multiple have called claiming to be the shooter, frustrating, takes time away
Inconclusive that he was within two blocks
Seattle Swat presence - LE is following leads in Kings County
8 am briefing will cover investigation
May have caught ride out, (but seemed speculative related to King's County)
Trooper's Briefing above
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He was said to have a scruffy look, close cropped hair cut
 
[h=2]Burlington, Wash., mall shooting is 6th mass shooting (4 or more people killed or wounded) in Washington this year - @pgcornwell
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http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/authorities-looking-for-gunman-in-burlington/
update video below text, not the first one

The suspect was described as a Hispanic male in his 20s or 30s with a close-shaved haircut. He used a long gun similar to a hunting rifle, Francis said. Police released a security-footage photo of him shortly after 9 p.m.

Francis said the suspected shooter was last seen walking west toward Interstate 5 from the mall around 7 p.m.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/three-dead-in-shooting-at-mall-north-of-seattle-1474689525

Another witness told a local television reporter that he was in the mall when he heard a shot that “sounded like a clap real quick and then it went again, just bang bang bang bang bang about seven, eight shots and that’s when I turned around and I just started running for safety.”

[...]

The suspected shooter, a slim, dark-haired man dressed in gray, was last seen walking away from the mall, said Heather Axtman, a state trooper. The shooter’s motive is unknown at this time, Ms. Axtman said



http://www.goskagit.com/news/local_...cle_3818b5e3-3f25-5e68-9a7d-bb117e413a94.html

According to State Patrol Sgt. Mark Francis, four women were killed and one man was airlifted in critical condition to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

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She said she was in the Macy’s women’s dressing room when she heard “what sounded like four balloons popping, and I thought that was strange because I hadn’t seen any balloons.”

“Then I heard seven or eight more, and I just stayed quiet in the dressing room because it just didn’t feel right. And it got very quiet. And then I heard a lady yelling for help, and a man came and got me and another lady, and we ran out of the store.”


http://abcnews.go.com/US/report-active-shooter-mall-burlington-washington/story?id=42321253

https://www.yahoo.com/news/authorities-2-injured-shooting-mall-north-seattle-030002717.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...le-shooting-cascade-mall-burlington/91009272/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-mall-shooting-washington-20160923-snap-story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/mall-shooting-washington-state.html?_r=0

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...sponding-deadly-Washington-mall-shooting.html

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/...ter-shooting-at-shopping-centre-in-washington


http://www.lcnn.com/2016/09/23/us/washington-mall-shooting/index.html
interview with LE
 
No gun expert but searching suggests that the likes of Browning, Marlin and Winchester all make "repeaters", lever or bolt action, and that they could house ~10 bullets.

Something about this does feel personal to me, that he had at leaast one particular person in mind.
 
Good grief, here we go AGAIN! Four women shot dead at Washington mall. Picture of suspect in this article.
[video=cnn;us/2016/09/24/washington-mall-shooting-trooper-johnson-intv-lemon.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/us/washington-mall-shooting/index.html[/video]
 
Ray_of_hope said:
Good grief, here we go AGAIN! Four women shot dead at Washington mall. Picture of suspect in this article.
[video=cnn;us/2016/09/24/washington-mall-shooting-trooper-johnson-intv-lemon.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/us/washington-mall-shooting/index.html[/video]
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hmm looking at it some more, notice how the arm is lighter than the face? Pointy chin. T Shirt shape in front in relation to hips, and feet?
 
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