WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

[Donjeta]

Sounds like after "transitioning" into a black woman, Rachel started making claims of various race motivated offenses made by various people known or unknown to her.

Her allegation against her brother in 1991 appear to be that of race motivated assault (because brother was turned on by black bodies and curious about black women generally). But she was white in 1991. But in 2013, when allegations were made, she was pretending to be black.
Is prosecution planning to call her to testify? I would really like to see her try to explain that.

"He told her he 'was turned on by the black body and was curious about black women generally', according to the court documents seen by Buzzfeed News."

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Possibly a pre-emptive strike? Rachel realized that her being black when her biological relatives are white would seem odd in the court. So by evoking the black beauties, now she can blame her brother for screwing her up, saying that black women turn him on. In the hopes that her transformation wouldn't be viewed as evidence that she's a messed up liar but evidence that her brother molested her and caused her emotional damage.

 

[Hope4More]

BBM. This is a sweeping broad statement which I find offense to. Not everyone across the US is unable to get past skin colour. Racism in the news is similiar to if it bleeds it leads. Just like there are far more good things that happen than bloody murder, there are far more people across the US that embrace a variety of cultures and races. The good things just aren't newsworthy. And AFAIC unless criminal charges are filed, Rachel Dolezal is no longer newsworthy as well.

Additionally, I wouldn't give RD the platform of having any responsibility with the SC mass shooting. The perpetrators friends made it clear it was the issues in Ferguson and Baltimore which drove him over the edge.

I agree that not everyone in the US is racist, and maybe not even a majority of us are racists, if you define racist those who knowingly choose to hates blacks, no matter their rationale.

What's also true is that we've undeniably made tremendous progress over the past 60 odd years, and on many fronts.

What's true as well is that systemic racism can be found any which way one chooses to look...in banking, housing, employment, and yep, definitely in our police forces in more places than not.

Beyond that, most everywhere outside our major urban areas, is a sometimes more subtle, very common "race awareness," let's call it. That's the experience of being black and even in NYC not being able to count on a cab pulling over when hailed, or being a black man walking down the street and having white folks smile at him nervously or cross the street, or assuming that a black woman with more than 2 kids is on welfare and having kids for the (piddling) money, or being white and trying to go to a Baptist church and being told to go to a specific service because congregants in that service are more tolerant....I could literally write dozens of pages of examples.

The SC shooting isn't typical because even our most virulent hard core racists don't typically massacre blacks to indulge their sickness. That too we can agree on..

Whether the glass is half full or half empty on race relations in the US no doubt depends on who you're asking, and when it was they last encountered a racist or were discriminated against.

 

[La Louve]

Nobody is born racist and nobody learns racism in a vacuum. That said, I don't think RD is a racist, just an opportunist without morals. Not sure how it makes sense to you that her parents might be racists because they adopted 4 black children?

From what I make of things, 2 of those 4 kids are fine with how they were raised, 1 became alienated perhaps in no small part after being coached by RD, and the 4th, the girl, was troubled from the get-go, pehaps for the very reason her adopted mother has mentioned, an attachment disorder.

Okay I admit I wasn't fully awake when I typed that And I was really ticked off after seeing the pics of her with the looooong (past her knees) braids.

It just seems to me like she has this idea of what it "looks like" to be Black (hairstyles) and how it "feels" to be Black (falsely claiming race based victimization) and it just struck me this morning as really cheap stereotyping that does a disservice to the very community she was supposedly trying to help. Remember a few years ago for Halloween when Julianne Hough went as OITNB character Crazy Eyes and was roundly lambasted in the press for her racist blackface? RD's faux-Black act just seems to me like one long blackface act. And that feels very racist to me.

Anyway, all those thoughts before my first cup of coffee led me to ponder her relationship with her parents and I wondered if they thought they looked "cooler" or "hipper" for adopting four Black children. The whole family seems kinda messed up to me, but I think you have a much better read on them than I do.

The other thing that keeps making me mad is that I work for a social services agency in Washington state and I know how committed we are to Affirmative Action and diversity in our hiring process - not just for paid staff but for volunteers as well. I keep thinking about the hiring process at Spokane NAACP and how RD cheated other candidates out of a fair shot at that job and that really p***es me off.

I probably need to lay off this thread for awhile. hehe.

 

[Hope4More]

Sounds like after "transitioning" into a black woman, Rachel started making claims of various race motivated offenses made by various people known or unknown to her.

Her allegation against her brother in 1991 appear to be that of race motivated assault (because brother was turned on by black bodies and curious about black women generally). But she was white in 1991. But in 2013, when allegations were made, she was pretending to be black.
Is prosecution planning to call her to testify? I would really like to see her try to explain that.

"He told her he 'was turned on by the black body and was curious about black women generally', according to the court documents seen by Buzzfeed News."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nd-sexually-assaulting-her.html#ixzz3dci2eHXR
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I happen to believe her mother and her uncle who have both said that RD's interest in all things black didn't begin until 1994-1995 when her adopted siblings arrived. Joshua doesn't seem to have shared RD's complete absorption in black culture, and when he married he married a white woman. So much for being mesmerized by black female bodies.

Her uncle has also said that before the adopted kids arrived he doubted that RD - or her brother- had even been around blacks at all.

IMO the reason why RD made up that weird lie is for foundation. As in, see? Joshua not only molested me (so he has a history of molestation, and of a sister), but he even told me about his fantasies, and they were about black female bodies (like my adopted sister's).

I feel very comfortable in saying I flat out don't believe her, and I don't think it's any coincidence that these charges were brought after her sister came to live with her.

 

[Donjeta]

I think it's so beautiful that her lies started to unravel because she told a bit too many...

Rachel has claimed that her parents went public with the accusation that she is lying about her race because they want to discredit allegations of abuse. But the reporter who broke the story says he went to the parents, not the other way around.

Jeff Selle, who writes for the Coeur D'Alene Press in Idaho, said he became interested in Dolezal's background because she claimed to be the victim of a series of hate crimes between 2004 and 2010 that police investigated but could not substantiate.

When she made a similar claim in Spokane, where she was the president of the local chapter of the NAACP, he began digging. He saw a Facebook post in which Dolezal was pictured with a black man described as her father.

Selle said he recognized the man, Albert Wilkerson, and did not believe he had a daughter named Rachel. He then tracked down Ruthanne Dolezal, who was reluctant to talk but eventually agreed to go on the record.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rachel-dolezal-scandal-exposes-fractured-family-n377376

 

[jjenny]

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IMO the reason why RD made up that weird lie is for foundation. As in, see? Joshua not only molested me (so he has a history of molestation, and of a sister), but he even told me about his fantasies, and they were about black female bodies (like my adopted sister's).
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I believe that when RD made these allegations against her brother (in 2013), police believed her to be black. She was already pretending to be black (or bi-racial). So when brother supposedly claimed to her he was curious about black bodies and turned on by black bodies, it would have been about RD's own body.
Only we all know she wasn't black in 1991, she was white.

 

[jjenny]

Possibly a pre-emptive strike? Rachel realized that her being black when her biological relatives are white would seem odd in the court. ..

But she was pretending to be black. Perhaps she was pretending she was also adopted like her sister? Or at least that her father was black (we know she tried to pass a black man as her dad).

 

[Hope4More]

But she was pretending to be black. Perhaps she was pretending she was also adopted like her sister? Or at least that her father was black (we know she tried to pass a black man as her dad).

I don't think that even RD would have lied about her race or said she was adopted in legal proceedings that directly involve her biological white family. What would be the point? She'd be instantly discredited.

At the time she participated in filing charges, 2013, she hadn't yet been hired by the NAACP. She had several part-time teaching jobs....no public profile.

The case is in Colorado. Maybe she thought she could be white in the privacy of court there. She did bring up the case fairly recently, while in black face. Arrogance, maybe? Unable to resist claiming another form of victimization? Who knows.

 

[Donjeta]

But she was pretending to be black. Perhaps she was pretending she was also adopted like her sister? Or at least that her father was black (we know she tried to pass a black man as her dad).

Yes but I don't think that pretending to be black in a court case in which her biological family is involved is very likely to fly unchallenged. Surely someone or other would have asked how this black kid who claims to be molested came to live with Larry and Ruthanne and Larry and Ruthanne would say she was their biological daughter.

 

[KateB]

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