Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #8 *Arrest*

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musicaljoke said:
The clothes she was wearing don't lead one to think of a bed snatch. No one knew what she was wearing, so she wasn't wearing the clothes she had on the day before, or the family would have said so, nor her night clothes, which were probably left in her room. I think that she got herself dressed w/o anyone seeing her, and left the house and was nabbed immediately.

But, I don't settle into that idea either, because teenage boys tend not to be up and going early Sunday morning.

I think that her clothing is telling us something.

A thought ... is it possible that she went to GG's house for breakfast while his mom was still there?
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Wouldn't GG's mom have said if she saw her and fed her breakfast?


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Ok and I also do NOT think she got up in the middle of the night, got dressed and left. Reason being- when my 5.5 yr/old goes to sleep, he crashes, hard. He doesn't wake up until morning. There is no way he is getting up in the middle of the night, getting dressed, and leaving the house by himself.


So GG was either there helping her along, OR (more likely IMO) she never went to bed that night.
 
Nore said:
Two of our people actually found evidence Pros. missed. It was talked about on HLN/Nancy Grace..:websleuther::winner:
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For those of us who don't watch NG, what was that?

TIA

ETA: Oh, I see going further that this was in response to the CAYLEE case...sorry.
 
Ontario Mom said:
Where we live, at the end of our street is a path down to a paved walking trail by the river. There is nothing down there at all, except woods, river and more woods. And yet, there are teens down there all the time. Just because it's a place to go away from "stuff". They hang out, talk, dare each other to go in the river, etc. It's just a place they like to hang out. I've been in the woods behind Steele Creek (when I was a teen and when I was in my early 20's) and it's pretty much the same thing. Just a place for teens to hang out, away from houses, parents, "stuff". I honestly don't know how often teens hang out there now, but they did when I was younger.
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Shades of the Caylee Anthony case
 
KristinSchmistin said:
Ok and I also do NOT think she got up in the middle of the night, got dressed and left. Reason being- when my 5.5 yr/old goes to sleep, he crashes, hard. He doesn't wake up until morning. There is no way he is getting up in the middle of the night, getting dressed, and leaving the house by himself.


So GG was either there helping her along, OR (more likely IMO) she never went to bed that night.
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I really don't think she made it to bed. That is the only thing that makes sense to me.
 
mpnola said:
As we ponder what could make a "seemingly" typical teen male do something so horrendous, we obviously wonder if he was hiding rage, hiding drug use or hiding a secret of having been harmed himself. You can believe if it is number 3, he is going to siiiiing like a canary!!! That abuser will be thrown into a pit of snakes he or she would have never imagined! **IF** (not saying it is, just processing possibilities) this is the case (there was abuse to him), I hope it makes abusers all over the world think twice about what they can be pulled into and exposed for. Abusers need to be exposed in order for there to even being a chance of stopping!
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And if it happens, I do hope that it is true as I wouldn't want another false accusation such as in the Caylee Anthony case. (caylee on my mind this am)
 
KristinSchmistin said:
Ok and I also do NOT think she got up in the middle of the night, got dressed and left. Reason being- when my 5.5 yr/old goes to sleep, he crashes, hard. He doesn't wake up until morning. There is no way he is getting up in the middle of the night, getting dressed, and leaving the house by himself.


So GG was either there helping her along, OR (more likely IMO) she never went to bed that night.
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I wish we knew more about what was going on in her home on Saturday night. Were her 2 roommates asleep in the room that night? Were both her parents home? Because I wonder if GG was able to slip into the house and sneak her out, asleep, in his arms. Maybe she fell asleep on the couch watching tv, and he saw her through a window and came in and carried her out? Because he was 'part of the family' it would be easy to do. If someone saw him walking around he could come up with a reasonable excuse for being there, But IF NOT, he is home free.

Or maybe the 2 siblings were asleep on the couch and so he was able to go into the bedroom to nab Jenise? The 16 yr old being out of town might have been the key to his ability to sneak in and do this.
 
katydid23 said:
I wish we knew more about what was going on in her home on Saturday night. Were her 2 roommates asleep in the room that night? Were both her parents home? Because I wonder if GG was able to slip into the house and sneak her out, asleep, in his arms. Maybe she fell asleep on the couch watching tv, and he saw her through a window and came in and carried her out? Because he was 'part of the family' it would be easy to do. If someone saw him walking around he could come up with a reasonable excuse for being there, But IF NOT, he is home free.

Or maybe the 2 siblings were asleep on the couch and so he was able to go into the bedroom to nab Jenise? The 16 yr old being out of town might have been the key to his ability to sneak in and do this.
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Maybe he was just there hanging out and the parents went to bed figuring "eh, he's got this, our kids are safe with him" and then they went to go get ice cream (or didn't) and were just up anyway. The other kids went to sleep, they stayed awake. Maybe it happened in her house? Maybe not. Maybe in his car? Maybe he took her WITH the car to the area where she was found... like went around to where that pull in area was on the other side of the creek to unload her body? :(
 
KristinSchmistin said:
Maybe he was just there hanging out and the parents went to bed figuring "eh, he's got this, our kids are safe with him" and then they went to go get ice cream (or didn't) and were just up anyway. The other kids went to sleep, they stayed awake. Maybe it happened in her house? Maybe not. Maybe in his car? Maybe he took her WITH the car to the area where she was found... like went around to where that pull in area was on the other side of the creek to unload her body? :(
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But if he had been there with the kids when the parents went to sleep, and the next day Jenise was never seen again, wouldn't they have told LE about him immediately? I think they would have, but who knows.
 
katydid23 said:
But if he had been there with the kids when the parents went to sleep, and the next day Jenise was never seen again, wouldn't they have told LE about him immediately? I think they would have, but who knows.
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Yes, you're right. I didn't even think of that! Ok so then what about this: the kids never went to bed but the parents did. The younger siblings fell asleep and the little one was either outside playing (I've heard the kids were up late/all hours outside running around whenever, from a neighbor) or all of them were up and outside playing and the younger kids came inside and went to sleep, whereas JW didn't.
 
Time of death:
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It just hit me. Autopsy might show time of death based on what she had eaten.
If she was found with meat and salad for instance, they will know she died within 1-6 hrs of dinner. (if they can find who fed her to report what she ate)
Pnut butter sandwich and milk might have been a lunch. Cereal and juice breakfast,of course without another person cooberating what she was fed and when it won't really help.
I just can't believe we haven't heard where she had dinner on Saturday night, - or lunch.
Again if she got up @ 6:30-7:00 am or so did she grab something to eat? Was there a dish or bowl left behind? any wrappers? Did anyone hear the toilet flush before 7:00am?

Surely it was reported and we just haven't heard about it.
MP had to know what she ate during the day because she said she was with her Fri and Sat.
If MP reported that she had pizza for dinner and pizza was found at autopsy then she probably didn't live for very long after 10pm.
However if she is found with nothing in her stomach it would suggest she had slept from 10pm- just before 7am when dad woke up or that she had gone 6 or more hours without food.
Don't they say most "kidnapped" kids are dead with in 3 hours?
I really think that AUGUST 2nd is quite significant here.
Being the 2nd anniversary of the mom's sisters death, I wonder how far away she is buried or if mom did something special that day perhaps with a friend or niece/nephew. I am gonna look into that angle. I have a feeling he had the house to himself on Saturday/night possibly Sunday.



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KristinSchmistin said:
Yes, you're right. I didn't even think of that! Ok so then what about this: the kids never went to bed but the parents did. The younger siblings fell asleep and the little one was either outside playing (I've heard the kids were up late/all hours outside running around whenever, from a neighbor) or all of them were up and outside playing and the younger kids came inside and went to sleep, whereas JW didn't.
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That is a real possibility.
 
This should be easier for us to put together for the amount of information we have! What are we missing here..... it shouldn't be this complicated. It's not like he's super sneaky and left no clues/evidence.
 
We do know (italics because this was from a friend of GG's social media page and we cannot name him due to age, etc)-the FBI took the friend's phone because he had 2 videos on that phone that had J in them. These were not videos "of" J, rather she was somehow in them when the friend created message videos to send to another friend. These videos were taken on Saturday-though he never states what time on Saturday. They will know if what she was wearing in those videos are what they found outside.

This also shows us, as many others have surmised, that little J was hanging out around older kids.
 
2Hope4 said:
IIRC, two people claimed to have seen her, but we don't know if they were from the same household or not, whether they were teens, or adults, and whether they were thinking Saturday instead of Sunday. We never got many details about that sighting, and sometimes eye witnesses are wrong, though not always intentionally. I don't think anything was said about what she might have been wearing Saturday. I guess time will tell if those clothing items are what she had on Sunday. LE knows by now.
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:( I just realized something really bad. If GG was the source of one of the Sunday sightings, he may have been telling the truth. I'm sure they did not ask ' was she alive' when you saw her :( ** speculative**
 
Regarding Sunday morning, it's possible GG's parents were at church. With the name like Gabriel Zebediah, it's very possible the parents are church-goers, IMO. (TOS prohibits sleuthing family so I'll leave it at that.)

I still think the crime happened Saturday night, but GG might have had some time for cleaning up, collecting thoughts on Sunday morning while parents were at church, if they do attend church. But, it's unknown at this point where his parents were.

Everything, except the bedtime at 10pm, points to a Saturday night crime to me. I don't think she ever was in her own bed Saturday night.
 
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