Being in OB/GYN yes mid to late 30's is Pre-Menopausal - depending on how old you are when your cycle started. The earlier you start the earlier you start on the end of things. This is why women that are age 35 or older and are pregnant get T21 genetic scan for likelihood of many deformities caused by having a child late in life when your eggs are old. I started hot flashes at 37, thought I had a fever or the flu LoL
Having just read about the UID who took cyanide in an LA hotel in 1993 (and has a morgue pic), I really wish we had morgue photos for Mary.
Re: the jewelry. Maybe it's me, but I don't think it's odd that she had no jewelry on her. I rarely wear any, and when I do, it's necklaces--which I don't often bring on trips with me and especially can't see doing if I planned to kill myself. MOO
ETA: I just found the post-mortem pic earlier in this thread.
Yes, we've never had a medical examiner report here to look at to see exactly what or how they investigated. I think I will call on Monday and see if I can get anything under the public records act. It's been nearly 20 years, I would think it would be open now if you apply. Be nice to know if they called local retailers, or if there were any leads that they didn't check out, or other notes we didn't get in the reporters story.
Morgue Pic?
Do you have the link?
I would like to see it.
I think the sketch makes her look smooth skinned and younger than age that she is supposed to be.
Thank you
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​IS she in NAMUS?
I know she's on the Doe Network as an unidentified person... I spoke with the King County Medical Examiners office. I was told there is information that is withheld pending identification: For instance, the person always had this in their possession, that would identify the person in that case. I was told, "the people here know what they're doing" and I was told that they can't release information except to a family member. My question was if there is a DNA sample of our Mary Anderson or any other information that could be released regarding the case, even though they are the professionals and know what they're doing, to get the information out there on social media might be helpful in solving the case. I was told that "there are no leads, so that's why nothing additionally has been released." I persisted and left a message for Kathy Taylor, the anthropologist there to call me back with any additional information she could provide. I referenced our Web Sleuth's page, and that 100's of people have been looking and are quite interested in helping. Hopefully, we can glean some information that we haven't had before - but it sounds like I may not get anywhere with this request. :-(Not that I can find. That seems odd.
We'll see what they have to say if anything, I left a message for Kathy Taylor...it doesn't sound like the public's help is valued or that legally additional information can be released, based on the women who answered my call at the KCME :-(It would help to see actual reports rather than just words.Also pictures and whatever else they have that may help.Since it has gone absolutely nowhere since she was found. That would say to me the public can not help with what is out there. but may be able to help with more information.
It's linked on post #130 of this thread, with further discussion. Here's the direct link to the pic:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/index.php?showtopic=2176
It's not that different. I just think she looks younger, maybe because her eyes are closed.
That's not, to my understanding, and actual "morgue picture" it's a picture of how she was found in the hotel. It's the only picture I know of that's been released, that's officially of her. Several artists sketch's and renditions have been done since then (but in my opinion look nothing like the sleeping like photo here.)
I know she's on the Doe Network as an unidentified person... I spoke with the King County Medical Examiners office. I was told there is information that is withheld pending identification: For instance, the person always had this in their possession, that would identify the person in that case. I was told, "the people here know what they're doing" and I was told that they can't release information except to a family member. My question was if there is a DNA sample of our Mary Anderson or any other information that could be released regarding the case, even though they are the professionals and know what they're doing, to get the information out there on social media might be helpful in solving the case. I was told that "there are no leads, so that's why nothing additionally has been released." I persisted and left a message for Kathy Taylor, the anthropologist there to call me back with any additional information she could provide. I referenced our Web Sleuth's page, and that 100's of people have been looking and are quite interested in helping. Hopefully, we can glean some information that we haven't had before - but it sounds like I may not get anywhere with this request. :-(
The post mortem looks like she is wearing eyeshadow and lipstick. Do we know if she was? I know she had makeup in her possession. It sounds like something a person might do: try to look their best before committing suicide. Or maybe this is natural discoloration after death?
I think her photo and the sketches show an older woman than the age range given. As someone in mid-40s, to me she looks at least over 50. Plus there seems to be maybe some vertical lines over her upper lip. Prior smoker maybe?
The post mortem looks like she is wearing eyeshadow and lipstick. Do we know if she was? I know she had makeup in her possession. It sounds like something a person might do: try to look their best before committing suicide. Or maybe this is natural discoloration after death?
I think her photo and the sketches show an older woman than the age range given. As someone in mid-40s, to me she looks at least over 50. Plus there seems to be maybe some vertical lines over her upper lip. Prior smoker maybe?
Now I'm annoyed. I started rereading this thread and it looks like posters had contacted the King County ME a few years ago and actually got some minor details (or at least weren't told their help wasn't needed). Plus, the former KC ME seemed very invested in this case. Such a shame if this is the attitude the currency staff has.
Pulling this article forward, as it references the former ME:
http://wahmee.com/misc_kcmeo.pdf
The post mortem looks like she is wearing eyeshadow and lipstick. Do we know if she was? I know she had makeup in her possession. It sounds like something a person might do: try to look their best before committing suicide. Or maybe this is natural discoloration after death?
I think her photo and the sketches show an older woman than the age range given. As someone in mid-40s, to me she looks at least over 50. Plus there seems to be maybe some vertical lines over her upper lip. Prior smoker maybe?
Just some thoughts:
I'd attribute her clothing choice to being a non-local, for sure. Many people fall prey to the "it's farther north, so it must be colder" fallacy in regard to Seattle. My friends/family in the Mid-Atlantic and South were amazed that I had a full garden blooming in April. They also assumed it was colder here than there in the winter. They didn't know how the wind origins and wind patterns keep it warmer here during that time of the year.
Also, if we're talking about the same Tylenol/cyanide scare, that was in 1982, which was quite a bit before 1996. Not really sure if that would have any impact at that point or not.