mountainash
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Perhaps he was a war veteran with PTSD and bulimia who was sent over the edge by the 9/11 attacks?
His prints would have come up as a soldier and maybe his DNA (not certain about that one). I think we can safely rule that one out.Perhaps he was a war veteran with PTSD and bulimia who was sent over the edge by the 9/11 attacks?
I have mentioned so many things which make me wonder if this was a suicide. I even gave a list earlier.To all the people who believe he was murdered due to the manner in which he hanged himself(or due to other reasons not mentioned): what is it that looks suspicious? The scene was so meticulous, he did what he could to ensure his comfort, and he behaved strangely in the days leading up to his death.
I'm not saying that a death that's ruled a suicide can never be murder(see: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...alen-Norway-WhtFem-503UFNOR-Soviet-Spy-Nov-70)...but, the idea that Lyle was murdered just strikes me as so unlikely.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said they didn't understand and don't get the laws of WA state. It is different in every state across the country and some allow more than others. I don't think anyone believes you did anything illegal at all! Some may have a problem with the nature of the photos and question the ethical situation, but there is no improper misconduct associated with their release especially where you are concerned. You went to all the trouble of requesting them and jumped through the hoops to get the records. If anything could push this case forward and finally get an ID for Lyle, this could be it.Incorrect. I'm sick of defending myself against people who don't know anything about Washington's Public Records Laws and accuse me of acting improperly or unlawfully when I released the documents. For your information, here's the law: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=42.56. Take a look specifically at RCW 42.56.240, as it governs law enforcement records. You can also take a look here: http://www.seattle.gov/police/contact/PublicRequestUnit.htm for an example of exceptional compliance with WA records laws.
I have mentioned so many things which make me wonder if this was a suicide. I even gave a list earlier.
The scene was meticulous, but even that could be a sign of foul play. Did someone scrub the room and dispose of anything related to Lyle? What was left was not going to give away his ID or other information. A newspaper, a cup, clothing on him and shirt on chair, toothbrush and paste, 3 word note with money for room, one word note, a broken room key, spare change, and that was it.
Evidence shows he showered more than once so where are the other clothes (and are the large clothes he is wearing actually his clothes or did someone dress him?)? We know he went to the store and the money he paid for the room was crisp like new bills so where is his debit card or wallet? What was in the bathroom trash basket that was taken out prior to his death? It is what is NOT in the room that is suspicious and should have been taken into consideration at the time they found the body.
I think that if Lyle didn't want to be found he would have gone into the woods, or to be harder to find, a cave. The fact that he checked into a hotel says that he did want to be found, but probably didn't want to be sent home for reasons only known to him.
Incorrect. I'm sick of defending myself against people who don't know anything about Washington's Public Records Laws and accuse me of acting improperly or unlawfully when I released the documents. For your information, here's the law: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=42.56. Take a look specifically at RCW 42.56.240, as it governs law enforcement records. You can also take a look here: http://www.seattle.gov/police/contact/PublicRequestUnit.htm for an example of exceptional compliance with WA records laws.
I guess I am used to being the odd woman out here. lolI didn't just mean you.It seems like we're about 50% divided, here - half think it definitely was a suicide, half think it could have been murder.
I'd love to know where his debit card was, too. To me, the crisp new bills basically guarantee - with no bank nearby - that he either had his money changed at the border or(much more likely) visited an ATM.
I'd also love to know what exactly he shaved with, if he had no razor. THAT should have been in the trash can, if he didn't think he needed it, anymore.
I do believe it was a suicide because it "fits" to me, but I'm now wondering if someone didn't come in and clean up before LE got to the room.
I don't want to discourage anyone from posting here who may have been more directly involved than we were(in fact, I want to encourage it), but I wonder if there was something "incriminating" that the staff wanted to dispose of before anyone else could see it - maybe he wrote something else that could have been really damaging, or had something with him that might have been illegal/questionable(and they didn't want to be seen as appearing to allow it).
It would fit the "he was hiding after committing a crime" theory.
I guess I am used to being the odd woman out here. lol
The razor is something else that should have been in the room. At first people thought maybe he didn't grow much facial hair, but in the side photo (which brought out the discussion of his hair being brown), there is light stubble. 3 full days of growth?
Perhaps he was a war veteran with PTSD and bulimia who was sent over the edge by the 9/11 attacks?
Incorrect. I'm sick of defending myself against people who don't know anything about Washington's Public Records Laws and accuse me of acting improperly or unlawfully when I released the documents. For your information, here's the law: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=42.56. Take a look specifically at RCW 42.56.240, as it governs law enforcement records. You can also take a look here: http://www.seattle.gov/police/contact/PublicRequestUnit.htm for an example of exceptional compliance with WA records laws.
I guess I am used to being the odd woman out here. lol
The razor is something else that should have been in the room. At first people thought maybe he didn't grow much facial hair, but in the side photo (which brought out the discussion of his hair being brown), there is light stubble. 3 full days of growth?
I personally am thankful to see the photos but as an advocate for families of missing; I have to think of the day Lyle gets identified; his family now may see your photos. I wish you would have put the hanging ones in their own private album. There are people that want to see them but can't due to how graphic the hanging pics are. I do not have time right now to read your links but will try to read them this afternoon
I guess I am used to being the odd woman out here. lol
The razor is something else that should have been in the room. At first people thought maybe he didn't grow much facial hair, but in the side photo (which brought out the discussion of his hair being brown), there is light stubble. 3 full days of growth?