What did the neighbor(s) hear?

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Just found the article that his wife was awakened by misty talking and crying and pacing while on her cell phone.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100207/articles/2071007

Whisperer, do you have a time for that?'

And:
1. What was Misty doing from the time she turned her phone off until she is heard yapping on it?
2. What was going on at 10 o'clock or thereabouts? Because I don't think Tommy pulled that time out of his hat, lie or no.

Whatever was going on between, say 2 and 2:30 a.m. was set in motion before that. If Misty had been asleep (starting at 10; there's that time again), then there are no disturbances, etc. When the phone was shut off=important. When the phone went back on=important.

Oh, great idea to revive this thread, elle.
 
Now IIRC someone who posted here at one time stated they heard a loud vehicle come into the neighborhood sometime between 1:20 - 1:30 am and

the vehicle stopped at the dumpster which is located real close to where the Croslin's live on Tyler..
This person also stated the loud vehicle left the area around 2:00 am in the morning via Buffalo Bluff Road...JMO

Emeralgem, If I remember correctly, 3 dogs hit on a dumpster...

Stopping at the dumpster around 2am is no coincidence...

How many people do we know that stops at dumpsters at 2 am on a Tuesday morning?
I don't know anyone.
 
Whisperer, do you have a time for that?'

And:
1. What was Misty doing from the time she turned her phone off until she is heard yapping on it?
2. What was going on at 10 o'clock or thereabouts? Because I don't think Tommy pulled that time out of his hat, lie or no.

Whatever was going on between, say 2 and 2:30 a.m. was set in motion before that. If Misty had been asleep (starting at 10; there's that time again), then there are no disturbances, etc. When the phone was shut off=important. When the phone went back on=important.

Oh, great idea to revive this thread, elle.
I don't know what you are referring to about the time Pittsburgh, but I guess I should have typed the time in with the post about misty being on the cell. I knew it was in the link, but I would love to know if she narrowed her time down since the article.


What was misty doing between 10 and 3... good question. I think she didn't want to talk to rc and she was in serious trouble with Haleigh. I think she is capable of handling this herself; whether she did or not though is the problem. She is the type that calls her family whenever she is in trouble. Did she do that Feb 9? If not, she shared with one or more of them what happened.
 
The train is wobbling here you guys. Let's get back to what the neighbors heard or scoot on over to the Theories thread. Thanks! :blowkiss:
 
Whisperer, do you have a time for that?'

And:
1. What was Misty doing from the time she turned her phone off until she is heard yapping on it?
2. What was going on at 10 o'clock or thereabouts? Because I don't think Tommy pulled that time out of his hat, lie or no.

Whatever was going on between, say 2 and 2:30 a.m. was set in motion before that. If Misty had been asleep (starting at 10; there's that time again), then there are no disturbances, etc. When the phone was shut off=important. When the phone went back on=important.

Oh, great idea to revive this thread, elle.

Thank Kat...she gave me the incentive. I just wanted to make sure I posted the info in the proper thread. I agree with ya, things were set in motion earlier in the night, but what and why. I hope, God I sure do hope this will all get resolved soon. My brain is frying.
 
I wonder if it was the neighbor with the lattice that heard the scream. Since she lives next to the ramped walkway, it may have been in her hearing range.
 
I am not whisperer, but I have it handy so I will post it for ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzzICI328A

Thank you Elle, you really are a mine of information. :) Just to save time for anybody that's interested in listening to just that piece of information, he begins to mention it at 6:56 and here's the transcription:

[...]Between then and when we received the call .. you know .. what, at 2:13 in the morning, sometime shortly after 2 o'clock in the morning.[...]
 
I don't know what you are referring to about the time Pittsburgh, but I guess I should have typed the time in with the post about misty being on the cell. I knew it was in the link, but I would love to know if she narrowed her time down since the article.


What was misty doing between 10 and 3... good question. I think she didn't want to talk to rc and she was in serious trouble with Haleigh. I think she is capable of handling this herself; whether she did or not though is the problem. She is the type that calls her family whenever she is in trouble. Did she do that Feb 9? If not, she shared with one or more of them what happened.

BBM
Exactly! I DO think she called ToC. But he had to wait until his wife went to bed. Maybe he called Joe's cell and had him pick him up in the van! I'm sure they shared some sort of drug on their way over to the mh.

And after watching the videos of the drug bust, I am positive MC CAN be a leader if she needs to be. She could have TOLD ToC & JO what to do with the body or she was going to blackmail them both! She holds no loyalty to them!

I think the screaming was MC realizing that Haleigh wasn't alive.

JMO
 
not to much more to say on this thread w/o straying OT...time for me to move on.
 
Do you think MC called her to the mh herself? Or RC had her run over to why MC wasn't answering her cell?

I am thinking about that.

I just don't think Misty would have screamed and I really think TN would.
 
It definitely would shed some light if we did know who was screaming. I have lived in Florida nearly 40 years and I couldn't tell the difference in a bobcat or panther's screams. I've heard both and they can sound exactly like a baby crying or a woman screaming.

I wish we knew more about the timeline from 10pm and 3am; the truth that is.
 
I feel it is most probable that it was a woman screaming and it most probably was Misty, TN, or GGMS but I just have to add that some animals can sound like a woman screaming and being tortured. I had a lhasa apso puppy that suffered from horrible seizures. (R.I.P) and when she was having a seizure it sounded so just like a woman screaming bloody murder. It was horrifying and terrifying. So even though I believe it was most likely one of the woman players in the case it just can 100% discount that it was some sort of animal.
 
If the neighbor could hear. Misty crying while talking on her cell phone. I would say, Misty was emotional at the time the neighbor heard her.
 
suspicious1, This is very interesting, I agree it all ties together.
IF this information is true, I suspect that is when H. was killed or taken.

It's a good possibility Misty screamed when she witnessed Haleigh being run over or thrown from a car, or taken by someone very unset on drugs.

This 2:13 AM time could still involve R and M ....was it R.leaving mad???
think about this:
After the altercation ' R' could have went back to the convenience store for cigarettes and snacks after being at the trailer around 2:13 am...and what ever happened, for an alibi.

Someone made the comment a while back that it was very ODD, after R. left work that morning, R. passed 3 or 4 Convenience Stores before stopping for snacks and smokes.....

but if he was coming from the mobile home to the convenience store, this store would have been closer than the other 3 or 4 stores.

Great post MysteryLover. IMO, it all ties in together. There was something definitely going on around 2am. A few things that stand out to me is that Misty alibi, is that she slept from 10p-3a (she just so happens to wake up at 3). Ron's alibi, is that he worked until 3 (just so happens his normal shift would have ended at 12). Tommy now says that he was at the mh later than 10p. TN arrived in record time at 3:30a. It looks like everyone was trying to stay clear of placing themselves there at around 2a.

We got the neighbor hearing screams around 2:30a.

Misty is spotted by neighbors on her phone crying outside the mh around 3a.

If we go with the possible scenario of an Altercation: think about this

IMO, Ron was home much earlier than 3 (In Cobra's tapes:waitasec: LE seemed concerned about Ron arriving home at 3:25 and wanted to know what took him so long to get home) That tells me that they suspected he should've been home long before 3:25a.

If this altercation started around 2a- I think it was between Misty and Ron. Misty being who she is, called on her brother Tommy for help because he was the closest (on 911 call, Someone from Tyler admits to seeing Haleigh at around 2a-2:30a). Tommy get there and all hell breaks loose-which I think was the cause for the scratches on Ron's hands. Did we see any pictures of Tommy the next day? I wonder if he was scratched up too:waitasec:.
I believe, something made them all scatter at some point. Gunfire?? Crash?? They all scattered away from the mh on Green Ln. They knew that the police would be called (don't forget we're dealing with criminal minded people). IMO, Tommy went back to his house, Ron drove to the store (so he could be caught on camera and say that he stopped there on his way home from work), and I'm willing to bet that Misty went back to Tyler with her brother. I don't think Misty accompanied Ron to that store because she is seen pacing around the mh talking on the phone at 3a. I think at that point she was waiting there for Ron to return from the store and had no key to get back into the mh.

Didn't a neighbor also witness a red truck sitting by the railroad tracks that night?

Think about all the people who had gotten rid of their cars after Haleigh went missing: TN, Tommy, RC, and I think GMSykes. And then you have damage to Ron's altima and the blue van.
 
Interesting, very interesting. Neighbor hearing a scream, neighbor hearing and seeing Misty outside on the phone. Cars screeching every which way. Junior sleeps through it all? Baffling *bleep* case.

Thanks for bringing the videos here. Enlightening and confusing at the same time. :banghead:
 
Just a though I've had.. Maybe it was lindsey screaming when tommy/jo/misty end up at her mh at 2 something a.m? Maybe they all came in all blustery from the night activites, she woke up, they tell her what happened, she (being the only "good" one outta them), says "you have to call the police!" she dials, they hang it up on her(?) a little arguing ensues, yelling, screaming, misty cuts through the woods and gets back at the predestined time for ron to pull in and the game w/ LE begins.??
 
If Misty was talking to someone outside of the MH on her cell phone at 2:30 am police have long known who that was.

IMO
 

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