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Thank you! Yes for sure. Maybe someone laid them out nicely to wear with the red turtleneck the next day, to match Mommy? It’s funny in that scenario because she may have intended to wear the same thing the next day... but ended up with a crisis and never went to bed.

Whatsundertheniggttable96,
Maybe someone laid them out nicely to wear with the red turtleneck the next day
Now there is a thought?

I think you might be right here, obviously its a counterfactual so we will never know, but in the context of everything we know, with Patsy possibly determined to get JonBenet to match Mommy's dress code, I would buy it.

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Whatsundertheniggttable96,

Now there is a thought?

I think you might be right here, obviously its a counterfactual so we will never know, but in the context of everything we know, with Patsy possibly determined to get JonBenet to match Mommy's dress code, I would buy it.

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Right, and her huffy “whatever I do what I want” when being questioned about her wardrobe decision... and wearing the same outfit to a police interview again on TV as a screw you to Detective Thomas.

Today I had the thought that maybe the day old crab from Pricilla gave the kids the skids and that’s why we have so much poo at the crime scene. This is when you know you need to take a step back from this LOL...
 
Whatsundertheniggttable96,

Now there is a thought?

I think you might be right here, obviously its a counterfactual so we will never know, but in the context of everything we know, with Patsy possibly determined to get JonBenet to match Mommy's dress code, I would buy it.

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Then the question is - why did Johnnie B remove that red turtleneck? Why and when did she tie her hair back at the bottom?
 
What i also noticed in the video is the purple dufflebag ( i think thats what it is?) And the purple little carpet thing under JonBenets christmas tree Didn't Patsy say something along the lines that she invited death to Christmas by incorporating purple in the decorations ?

In DoI I remember reading that JonBenet wore a purple dress to the Xmas Eve church service.
 
Scroll down to Ames’ post about Jahazafat and her American Girl Doll theory which may explain the origin of the duct tape, navy wool and tan cotton fiber evidence, and the white stuffing on the floor of the wine cellar. It also could be where evidence was hidden and whisked away later by Auntie Pam Pam.

The Re-Ordered American Girl Doll..

Just Magic: Restringing

Rare Molly Mcintire American Girl Doll | Etsy

Molly? Someone get UKGuy and Trisha over here to comment if possible.. TIA!

I immediately saw a doll, but I see a nightcap/sleeping cap on it that matches the plaid dress. Does this doll come with something like that? Or maybe the dress is long and got wrapped up over doll's head?
 
I immediately saw a doll, but I see a nightcap/sleeping cap on it that matches the plaid dress. Does this doll come with something like that? Or maybe the dress is long and got wrapped up over doll's head?
Thank you! I think it’s the missing Molly Doll. In the 90s we used to dress like our American girl dolls. Molly was the contemporary doll and had an Americana pageant outfit, a dark green velvet Christmas dress with white lacing details, a plaid school dress with white blouse and blue and white saddle shoes, and a navy jumper and wool skirt. Most significantly, Molly’s Halloween costume was a hula dancer. I’m going to post some links to demonstrate that JB dressed like Molly. It’s likely she owned one and Pam took it out of the house because Patsy removed the stuffing and put the wipe cloth, the bloody paintbrush and soiled gloves in there. Ductape was used to tape down the string that held the head on so it wouldn’t get stuck in a hair come or dolls velcro clothing during play. That ductape was likely used in the staging. Please see jahazaphets post.

It would be a Molly doll dressed in this dress:
Plaid school dress
Google Image Result for https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/143725693320_/American-Girl-Doll-Molly-School-Dress-With-Accessories.jpg

It originally comes with this outfit Google Image Result for http://americanbabydollsonline.com/upload/Retired_Early_American_Girl_Molly_Mcintire_Original_Doll_Extensive_Collection_01_bkei.jpg

also:
Molly’s Halloween costume

Google Image Result for https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/americangirl/images/5/52/MeetMollycover4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150405032614

JBs costume
Google Image Result for https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_11_jb_hula_ll_120312_ssv.jpg

JBs
Americana pageant (complete with red bows on tap shoes)
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Molly Doll Miss Victory!
Google Image Result for https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Molly_An_American_Girl_on_the_Home_Front.jpg

Holiday dress
Dark Green velvet/ white lace Xmas dress
Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/83/7f/14837f541291c853eeef90d2f443f261.jpg

Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/74/8a/b7748aa81d0077126470b2e8af080ff6.jpg


Blue and white saddle shoes, dickey collar, just like Molly
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Where do you see the trophy?

I see a medallion with ribbon attached on the nightstand, but I can't locate the trophy?? Regarding if trophies are heavy, it all depends on the type, but they do seem to have become less well constructed over the years, and plastic is used more often then metal. IMOO But the base of a traditional trophy is usually rectangular and could do some damage given its sharp corners. AMOO
 
This object is gone after BPD collect evidence and after Auntie Pam raids the crime scene (before her Diet Coke and Happy Meal)

what is it?

who’s good at zooming and enhancing? View attachment 288512View attachment 288513View attachment 288514

Hmm... It looks like a box; a hard rectangular shape with graphics of apples or maybe tomatoes? Apples makes it seem school related; like a pencil box, tomatoes makes it seem like kitchen trash. Does not look like anything related to American Girl in my humble opinion. Is the police video of the crime scene and house taken the night of the death online for viewing? To me the status of the dolls Pam Paugh removed in that video would point to John and Patsy actively involved in a conspiracy to cover up the facts... along with the office of Alex Hunter who arranged for the visit allowing Pam to remove items.

Dead children don't play with toys...
 
Hmm... It looks like a box; a hard rectangular shape with graphics of apples or maybe tomatoes? Apples makes it seem school related; like a pencil box, tomatoes makes it seem like kitchen trash. Does not look like anything related to American Girl in my humble opinion. Is the police video of the crime scene and house taken the night of the death online for viewing? To me the status of the dolls Pam Paugh removed in that video would point to John and Patsy actively involved in a conspiracy to cover up the facts... along with the office of Alex Hunter who arranged for the visit allowing Pam to remove items.

Dead children don't play with toys...
Thank you! For sure. Dead children don’t need dolls and why is it mailed to access graphics. I wonder if Stevie and Gosage knew about it!
 
I immediately saw a doll, but I see a nightcap/sleeping cap on it that matches the plaid dress. Does this doll come with something like that? Or maybe the dress is long and got wrapped up over doll's head?
I googled Molly dolls to review multiple images. The feet are surprising small for an 18" doll. The feet often wear black or dark shoes with little white socks. Molly dolls had white panties as separate accessories as well as undershirts, slips, etc. until 2017 when panties were sewn on.

I voted 'toy' but now that all of you are posting about dolls, my eyes identified a doll, face to the left of photo and facing away. The dress does look plaid, and either a Christmas stocking cap on back of head or as you note, skirt up. The feet are to the photo right, in black shoes and white socks. It looks like the white panties were pulled down to the ankles and there is tension in the material like a band. Legs? Was JBR abusing her dolls, replicating acts on the dolls that someone had done to her? Or is that PR's staging?

(For me, OP #2 photo is clearest not blown up too large because it becomes fuzzy. I was wondering what that white bit was. I saw roller skate bottom, then thought it was a doll mounted on a white plastic bar with black wheels. But now as I have posted above, I see two black shoes and a white band across the ankles not just separate socks. hth)
 
Thank you! I think it’s the missing Molly Doll. In the 90s we used to dress like our American girl dolls. Molly was the contemporary doll and had an Americana pageant outfit, a dark green velvet Christmas dress with white lacing details, a plaid school dress with white blouse and blue and white saddle shoes, and a navy jumper and wool skirt. Most significantly, Molly’s Halloween costume was a hula dancer. I’m going to post some links to demonstrate that JB dressed like Molly. It’s likely she owned one and Pam took it out of the house because Patsy removed the stuffing and put the wipe cloth, the bloody paintbrush and soiled gloves in there. Ductape was used to tape down the string that held the head on so it wouldn’t get stuck in a hair come or dolls velcro clothing during play. That ductape was likely used in the staging. Please see jahazaphets post.

It would be a Molly doll dressed in this dress:
Plaid school dress
Google Image Result for https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/143725693320_/American-Girl-Doll-Molly-School-Dress-With-Accessories.jpg

It originally comes with this outfit Google Image Result for http://americanbabydollsonline.com/upload/Retired_Early_American_Girl_Molly_Mcintire_Original_Doll_Extensive_Collection_01_bkei.jpg

also:
Molly’s Halloween costume

Google Image Result for https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/americangirl/images/5/52/MeetMollycover4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150405032614

JBs costume
Google Image Result for https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_11_jb_hula_ll_120312_ssv.jpg

JBs
Americana pageant (complete with red bows on tap shoes)
Redirect Notice

Molly Doll Miss Victory!
Google Image Result for https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Molly_An_American_Girl_on_the_Home_Front.jpg

Holiday dress
Dark Green velvet/ white lace Xmas dress
Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/83/7f/14837f541291c853eeef90d2f443f261.jpg

Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/74/8a/b7748aa81d0077126470b2e8af080ff6.jpg


Blue and white saddle shoes, dickey collar, just like Molly
Google Image Result for https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/42/16/8c421638dbd0fe3329f37163a6a5d00d.jpg
Google Image Result for https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2020/10/16/5f89e7ca9c3378b41585e8aa/m_5f89e7ee3a0db90c3c4f790e.jpg
That is very useful information from someone who grew up with the American Girl dolls in the same era as JBR. I imagine many people just know this but do not realize that unless you were a child or a mom of a young girl in the 1990s, you would not know about this phenomenon of dressing matchy-matchy with the doll.

I could not open your links because they are hosted within the Google Play app? But I did easily google up both the original AG Halloween Hula outfit and the photo of JBR hula skirt. Very impressive.

I think you are really on to something with this line of inquiry.

JBR white top, plaid jumper with matching oversize plaid hat
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JBR in hula skirt
Jonbenet ramsey in hula skirt - Bing
 
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I googled Molly dolls to review multiple images. The feet are surprising small for an 18" doll. The feet often wear black or dark shoes with little white socks. Molly dolls had white panties as separate accessories as well as undershirts, slips, etc. until 2017 when panties were sewn on.

I voted 'toy' but now that all of you are posting about dolls, my eyes identified a doll, face to the left of photo and facing away. The dress does look plaid, and either a Christmas stocking cap on back of head or as you note, skirt up. The feet are to the photo right, in black shoes and white socks. It looks like the white panties were pulled down to the ankles and there is tension in the material like a band. Legs? Was JBR abusing her dolls, replicating acts on the dolls that someone had done to her? Or is that PR's staging?

(For me, OP #2 photo is clearest not blown up too large because it becomes fuzzy. I was wondering what that white bit was. I saw roller skate bottom, then thought it was a doll mounted on a white plastic bar with black wheels. But now as I have posted above, I see two black shoes and a white band across the ankles not just separate socks. hth)
Thank you!!!! I thought I was going crazy. So Molly may have been used in the basement during play time. The ligature eventually used to bind her wrists has an extra loop, could have been a small noose for the doll, and i agree, I believe the doll was undressed originally... see Jahazafet and fiber evidence. Thank you so much o legit thought I was making *advertiser censored* up! <3 I’m hoping some tech savvy person can blow it up and show a doll face to the world!
 
That is very useful information from someone who grew up with the American Girl dolls in the same era as JBR. I imagine many people just know this but do not realize that unless you were a child or a mom of a young girl in the 1990s, you would not know about this phenomenon of dressing matchy-matchy with the doll.

I could not open your links because they are hosted within the Google Play app? But I did easily google up both the original AG Halloween Hula outfit and the photo of JBR hula skirt. Very impressive.

I think you are really on to something with this line of inquiry.

JBR white top, plaid jumper with matching oversize plaid hat
OIP.VVUihjeW3ozyCXJ_HtptMAHaFj


article-0-053523020000044D-939_233x437.jpg


JBR in hula skirt
Jonbenet ramsey in hula skirt - Bing
I’m sorry the links don’t work! Google search JonBenet and cross reference with The American girl Molly doll and you will see that those outfits match up. Thank you thank you thank you, when one looks at this stuff in isolation, I never know if I’m linking stuff that doesn’t match up to reality you know? If someone knows Trisha, I would love her input. Let me try to get some good links.
 
That is very useful information from someone who grew up with the American Girl dolls in the same era as JBR. I imagine many people just know this but do not realize that unless you were a child or a mom of a young girl in the 1990s, you would not know about this phenomenon of dressing matchy-matchy with the doll.

I could not open your links because they are hosted within the Google Play app? But I did easily google up both the original AG Halloween Hula outfit and the photo of JBR hula skirt. Very impressive.

I think you are really on to something with this line of inquiry.

JBR white top, plaid jumper with matching oversize plaid hat
OIP.VVUihjeW3ozyCXJ_HtptMAHaFj


article-0-053523020000044D-939_233x437.jpg


JBR in hula skirt
Jonbenet ramsey in hula skirt - Bing

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I’m sorry the links don’t work! Google search JonBenet and cross reference with The American girl Molly doll and you will see that those outfits match up. Thank you thank you thank you, when one looks at this stuff in isolation, I never know if I’m linking stuff that doesn’t match up to reality you know? If someone knows Trisha, I would love her input. Let me try to get some good links.

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That is very useful information from someone who grew up with the American Girl dolls in the same era as JBR. I imagine many people just know this but do not realize that unless you were a child or a mom of a young girl in the 1990s, you would not know about this phenomenon of dressing matchy-matchy with the doll.

I could not open your links because they are hosted within the Google Play app? But I did easily google up both the original AG Halloween Hula outfit and the photo of JBR hula skirt. Very impressive.

I think you are really on to something with this line of inquiry.

JBR white top, plaid jumper with matching oversize plaid hat
OIP.VVUihjeW3ozyCXJ_HtptMAHaFj


article-0-053523020000044D-939_233x437.jpg


JBR in hula skirt
Jonbenet ramsey in hula skirt - Bing

upload_2021-3-21_21-26-4.jpeg
 

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