What Is The Key Date to Solving This Crime?

[JBean]

MAYBE on June 15th, Casey told her mom that Caylee is dead, or, you will never see her again, etc., and thats why Cindy strangled Casey! I think Caylee was dead the week prior and the whole "Father's Day" alibi is faulty. For some unknown reason, the entire family pointed to the week PRIOR...WHY? What reason could they all have to mislead everyone back to the 8th/9th of June? (unless) they were actually being honest....and....Caylee's burial is tied in with the dead jogger!!!

The 15th sighting has been verified by disinterested third parties.

 

[lizzysf]

Is there any way that you can link to these phone records??? (The thread is incredibly long and full of details...Very difficult to find info. at the moment.)

Go to Jury Room, missing pages...keep scrolling until you find a link to them that is still active

 

[MD MOMMY]

MAYBE on June 15th, Casey told her mom that Caylee is dead, or, you will never see her again, etc., and thats why Cindy strangled Casey! I think Caylee was dead the week prior and the whole "Father's Day" alibi is faulty. For some unknown reason, the entire family pointed to the week PRIOR...WHY? What reason could they all have to mislead everyone back to the 8th/9th of June? (unless) they were actually being honest....and....Caylee's burial is tied in with the dead jogger!!!

I would buy that except for the fact that LE verified the dates on the camera AND the upload, they have the log in sheet from the nursing home, and the statement from nurse. Not only that CA and everyone else agrees on the date once they verified the date of Father's Day.

 

[momtomany]

I agree with your theory..George empathizes with Casey as he is under the same control from Cindy...he is in on the disposal of the body..but I think they did it on the 24th between 3:30 AND 7 pm...SEE HER PHONE RECORDS

Thank you, I have to admit I have not been able to read every record of everything but I will look into those.

BTW anyone happen to notice an interesting pic dating back to June 26th as its creation - this was posted on another thread, according to the poster this pic was recovered by the State Attorney's Office out of KC's photobucket account. There is this one pic that looks like KC is standind in middle of a garden - check it out here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2774309&postcount=183

The date of its creation is June 26th - quite interesting in how this may fit with the theory?

 

[JBean]

PLease add your factual timeline entries into the calendar timeline. If you all want a nice timeline we have to create it:
Please post a backup link or reference for the entry.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?s=&month=9&year=2008&do=&c=4

 

[CatLynnette]

I believe Caylee was deceased before that first "flurry" of phone calls on June 16th. I think that after George left for work, Casey brought Caylee back to the house and then whatever horrible thing took place. I believe this because the first few phone calls in that "flurry" were to anywhere BUT the Anthony's residence. That tells me that Casey was at the house. Otherwise, why would she try both cell numbers and work numbers over and over again for her parents, and not call the house?

I have to agree with you, this makes a lot of sense to me. At this moment in time with the information available, in my opinion, I think that something bad happened during the afternoon of Monday, June 16th.

 

[JoAnn_W]

Originally Posted by magic-cat
I think the 23rd is KEY to it all. Here is why. OBVIOUSLY there are some very disturbing inconsistencies in the testimony of her dad concerning the 24th and concerning the gas can theft.

This is also my key date, but for a different reason.

I think Casey took off with Caylee on the 15th/16th. Casey placed her with someone to hide her from Cindy and to enjoy her single life. I think that is how she got away with appearing so carefree- Caylee really was with a babysitter.

I believe that something happened on the 23rd- and that is the reason for Casey's wayout story about Zani, Rachel and the car accident and the real reason Casey was out of touch with her mother. Cindy was working on the 23rd- Casey called her about 5:30pm on Cindy's way home from work to explain her absence, not being in touch, etc., and the reason she had to go back all night and then again the next day.

I'm really not to sure what to make of George's inconsistencies. I'm wondering if he is covering another affair or covering for Casey? I can't help but wonder if he was covering for Casey, that Casey could have easily turned on him by now- blaming him for everything.

As far as the chloroform- no one released what capacity she searched for chloroform. I think she looked up a recipe for hashish and that the chloroform was used as a solvent- possibly totally unrelated to Caylee's disappearance.

JoAnn_W

 

[nursebeeme]

June 18, day of the shovel. If forensics come back with dirt evidence or other evidence linking that shovel to Caylee I think that what happened after that will all fit together including her movements via pings, etc.

 

[JoAnn_W]

I don't think they kicked her out on the 15th or that they would let her take Casey out that late.

If Cindy kicked her out on the 15th, she wouldn't have written that blog about how Caylee was missing. She would also have the date burnt in her memory: "I threw Casey out on the 15th and she took Caylee."

Casey had a habit of going away for an overnight or two. That is why the date didn't stick in Cindy's claw. The 15th was not a memorable date for her. I'm sure they have had many blowouts and that was just a day in the life of raising Casey.

I also believe she would have blurted out in the 911 call that she threw Casey out on the 15th and hasn't seen her or Caylee since.

If she was going to throw her out, I think she would have attempted to get custody of Caylee first. Cindy wouldn't let her go out late at night. Hopefully Caylee was sleeping through the "big arguement overheard by the neighbor." Or at least they probably thought/hoped that.

Another clue as to Cindy not wanting to throw Casey out was about when she found Casey at Tony's apartment, with Amy's help. She told Casy to get her things. She was hell-bent on her coming home. Even under house arrest- Cindy wants Casey home (probably because of Control issues).

JoAnn_W

 

[Dolce171]

I believe that Casey murdered her daughter the afternoon of June 16th.

...I hope that her dirty deed haunts Casey every night as she lays her head down to sleep!!!!!

 

[Tuba]

I've noted three conflicting accounts of the evening & night of 15 June. LP said that after a row with Cindy that got physical, Casey left and drove around for awhile. Witnesses from Sutton Pl. said that Casey was there on Father's Day. Cindy said there was a pool swim and that she tucked Casey & Caylee in to sleep. The tower pings seem to confirm either LP's version or Cindy's.

 

[kiki the parrot]

Quote: I believe Caylee was deceased before that first "flurry" of phone calls on June 16th. I think that after George left for work, Casey brought Caylee back to the house and then whatever horrible thing took place. I believe this because the first few phone calls in that "flurry" were to anywhere BUT the Anthony's residence. That tells me that Casey was at the house. Otherwise, why would she try both cell numbers and work numbers over and over again for her parents, and not call the house?

I've always believed this (about flurry of calls from the home) and suspected that the 16th is the date when an accidental drowning occurred. I have also always suspected that the car could only finally be abandoned when she found another place to hide Caylee's remains. Therefore I believe the key date to solving this could be the 26th or day the car is reported to have first been seen parked at Amscot. This may have given her as many as 10 days (or full week beyond the day Caylee's body was removed from backyard to place in trunk) in which she periodically drove other cars but was no doubt still scouting for a suitable place to put Caylee's remains. Tracking her motions and activity on the last day she drove that car might give LE the best indication of at what point Caylee was transferred from the trunk--and be at least the key date to solving her whereabouts. JMHO

 

[txsvicki]

I believe the key dates have to do with money. Casey seems to be totally motivated by money and could have planned the whole thing around that. I kept thinking that there was a reason that the car got smelly and why Casey kept coming back to the house practically every day. She could have gotten all her things in one or two trips after disposing of the body. I believe that Casey kept coming back because she was watching for George and Cindy's economic stimulus checks in the mail. I believe that George said that they had gone to deposits those checks around the 27th. As soon as that happened, the car was abandoned. Casey may have used the routing numbers from her Grandma's check to get her economic stimulus check and may have intended to steal Amy's as well.

 

[Pink Panther]

I believe the KEY DATE is June 15th. Still, with all the interviews - no one has admitted to a fight, a blow up, a disagreement. Not CA, not GA (who probably wasn't there) not sweet little Shirley. But something happened that night - for sure. THAT is the key date.

 

[thelmadawg]

I believe there are several key dates:

1. On or about June 16th - the day (or night) Caylee became deceased

2. The date of a purchase of a significant quantity of ice, dry ice or the use of a freezer, i.e. Amy's while she was away, or other "friend." Makes me wonder whether the A's had a deep freeze, or one of the others in her life.

3. The date KC had to dispose of the body because of decomp. (About 23rd to 26th)

Without some sort of preservative, decomp odor would have been detected much earlier.

 

[JoAnn_W]

2. The date of a purchase of a significant quantity of ice, dry ice or the use of a freezer, i.e. Amy's while she was away, or other "friend." Makes me wonder whether the A's had a deep freeze, or one of the others in her life.

Hello. What date was this?


JoAnn_W

 

[Dolce171]

Ice being purchased??????

I have not heard of this????? Where did you locate this information???

 

[thelmadawg]

Hello. What date was this?


JoAnn_W

Sorry, if I mislead anyone - that's IMHO -- Caylee deceased on or close to June 16. None saw her after this date. Decomp would have been horrendous by the date of the car tow. Thus, my speculation that she preserved the body in an ice chestand would have had to purchase dry or wet ice. Or perhaps, put her in a home freezer. At some point it melted or dissipated, incoveniently, and the remains were then disposed of.

Think more than one key date is critical, June 16, and shortly before the car tow.

 

[Boston]

MAYBE on June 15th, Casey told her mom that Caylee is dead, or, you will never see her again, etc., and thats why Cindy strangled Casey! I think Caylee was dead the week prior and the whole "Father's Day" alibi is faulty. For some unknown reason, the entire family pointed to the week PRIOR...WHY? What reason could they all have to mislead everyone back to the 8th/9th of June? (unless) they were actually being honest....and....Caylee's burial is tied in with the dead jogger!!!

Are you saying that you believe that Caylee died on the 9th & that the Anthony's are misleading LE into believing that it was the 15th?

Did the Anthony's forge the sign in sheet at the nursing home?

Did someone change the "date stamp" on the Video?

Are the nursing home staff members also involved?

If they went through all this trouble to make LE believe that Caylee was Alive on the 15th then why would they all say - "The 9th" instead of the 15th?

Why go through all this trouble of making people believe that Caylee was alive on the 15th & then tell LE that the last time we saw her was the 9th?

Why not say the 15th? - That was the whole point of forging the sign in sheet & changing the "time stamp" on the video right?


Anyway....If someone did change the "Time Stamp" on the video OCSO Detectives & there "Techies" would know........Then again maybe they do & are just not telling anyone