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Joseph Ruis - Vincent Lapaglia - Al Arezzo

Since I don't know anything about NJ politics I don't understand much of this except that it is related to organized crime and corruption. Ruis may be a partner with some of these people in a limited partnership called Triple Minga.

http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2012/08/state-of-nj-to-al-arezzo-your-license.html
State of NJ to Al Arezzo - Your license is hereby REVOKED!

I came across a link last night that connected these people but could not find it today, only the ones above.
 
To Summarize:
JR had a call center, a website with pictures of 40+ Models (MBB is said to have started out for some group doing sexy modeling.)
He had a restaurant as a legit business to launder his money (Kebabs)
He had an Entertainment Company (NEA, LLC)
He had at least three names for his escort agencies (LPG, WCPG and FPRS)
He has family in Brooklyn & LI (Copiage)
He has an address history in NJ, NYC and Brooklyn
He and SG were arrested in the same sting in 2009
That sting resulted from Hoboken police giving a tip to the prosecutor's office.
 
fred&edna said:
JR was in Vegas, April 2008 (learning how to better obtain funds electronically, I suppose)

http://www.electran.org/docs/annual... Final Attendee List - Alpha by Last Name.pdf
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Excellent sleuthing!

Just to bring others up to speed, Electran is a legitmate trade organization comprised of businesses that specialize in the electronic processing of payments and transfers of funds. Although the organization itself is legit, it's member list and the guest list of attendees at their annual Vegas meeting have both been something of a Who's Who guide to the top money launderers in the World (yes THE WORLD).

The Feds have recently discovered that this organization indirectly is responsible for promoting the development of new and more sophisticated methods to launder money. The Feds have also found that this annual convention is the ideal time & place to find and arrest their most wanted money laundering criminals-at-large (it was outside one of these meetings that the Feds arrested many of the top officials in the online Poker industry and charged them with various crimes including money laundering).

A person like JR would clearly be interested in befriending the members of Electran and partnering with as many of the payment service providers as possible (the more he utilized, the more difficult it would be to track his funds).
 
Just K said:
He could still be a cog in a bigger wheel, higher than the street pimps and dealers...maybe middle or upper management in a much bigger business.
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Could be. IMO... it's more than ODD that First Pro Referral Services generated all that money and involved drug transactions... however, NO ONE was investigated nor arrested nor charged in the case except JR, SG & co-defendant (and I assume the co-defendant was EEvangelista who was arrested w/SG in Hoboken?) Is JR still driving his Maserati and once again peddling kebabs and fal-awfuls?

** It does appear that many NJ city officials and some religious leaders were arrested later that month & charged with money laundering. Hmm... guess it's unrelated?
 
fred&edna said:
Could be. IMO... it's more than ODD that First Pro Referral Services generated all that money and involved drug transactions... however, NO ONE was investigated nor arrested nor charged in the case except JR, SG & co-defendant (and I assume the co-defendant was EEvangelista who was arrested w/SG in Hoboken?) Is JR still driving his Maserati and once again peddling kebabs and fal-awfuls?

** It does appear that many NJ city officials and some religious leaders were arrested later that month & charged with money laundering. Hmm... guess it's unrelated?
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Evangelista was only mentioned in her first arrest. He has never been mentioned again. I think Shannan was the only co-defendant in this second arrest. Odd that I have only found one quote (now deleted) about her second arrest. Why would all of the news outlets have never mentioned it?
 
Redbird said:
Evangelista was only mentioned in her first arrest. He has never been mentioned again. I think Shannan was the only co-defendant in this second arrest. Odd that I have only found one quote (now deleted) about her second arrest. Why would all of the news outlets have never mentioned it?
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**Wasn't SG's first arrest in Upper Saddle River, NJ 2007?

Maybe you are correct about SG being the only co-defendant. I don't know how to search/verify Hudson County court records.
Also of note, according to the article linked below Jersey City had also filed a missing person report for SG. So, was Jersey City actively searching for SG also?!? IMO, It doesn't seem that way, however maybe because they already had JR they didn't really care about finding/prosecuting SG?

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2011/12/18-month_old_mystery_over_shan.html

DeFazio said if the remains are identified as hers the case will be dismissed against Gilbert, who was out on her own custody at the time she disappeared. DeFazio said that despite the indictment Gilbert was considered missing rather than a fugitive. A missing person report filed by the Jersey City Department will also be withdrawn. *bbm
 
I don't know how to link to a previous WS post, but the Upper Saddle River arrest in 2007 (and one of these people was charged with impersonating an officer) was mentioned here:
NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #5 (POST #968 by Chanler)


Friday, July 6, 2007

UPPER SADDLE RIVER -- Seven people were arrested during an undercover prostitution sting connected to three escort services, police said Thursday.

Shannan Gilbert, 21, of Upper Saddle River, Arlene Aguilar, 33, of Brooklyn, Elizabeth Gonzalez, 31, of Union City and Gladys Montalvo, 38, of Hoboken were arrested and charged with engaging in prostitution, said Upper Saddle River Police Chief Michael Fanning.




http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...107458084.html
Ms. Gilbert was arrested on prostitution charges in an undercover sting operation conducted by the Hoboken Police in June 2009 while working for a now-defunct escort service called Lace Party Girls. One of her aliases was "Sabrina," according to police reports

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/pages/... &id=2810773
man and woman were arrested last week in Hoboken in connection with an alleged prostitution “call girl” service, according to Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio.

The Prosecutor’s Office worked in conjunction with the Hoboken Police Department on the “undercover investigation,” DeFazio said, which included surveillance techniques.

DeFazio said he couldn’t release all of the details, but said the arrest was made in Hoboken when a transaction was allegedly going to happen. He said the alleged prostitution service was a driver-and-girl operation, rather than a street-walking type.

According to Hoboken arrest records, Shannon Gilbert, 22, Jersey City, and Elpidio Evangelista, 42, Jersey City, were arrested at 300 Sinatra Drive on Tuesday, June 23 and charged with promoting prostitution, conspiracy, and manufacturing, distributing, or dispensing a controlled dangerous substance.

Gilbert’s employer was listed in the arrest log as Lace Party Girls and her alias as “Sabrina.” Both were released on a summons

Read more: Hudson Reporter - Police Beat Compiled by Timothy J Carroll 6 28 09
 
So many of these links are gone now plus so many of these articles are just copied from one news source to another with various mistakes and misinformation, I'm not sure it's worth going over all this information, it could become a quagmire. Up until you found this informatrion about Shannan's last arrest it had been kept secret, apparently. until the Hudsonreporter came out with it. (One could argue about this, but I don't think it's worth it.) It becomes confused when they lump together her missing person report and her arrest report. I think these were two separate events. Actually we have three separate events--her arrest in 2009 with Evangilista and the end of Lace Party Girls, the filing of a missing person report after her disappearance on May 1, 2010, and then this indictment with JR under the name World Class Party Girls.

"According to Hoboken arrest records, Shannon Gilbert, 22, Jersey City, and Elpidio Evangelista, 42, Jersey City, were arrested at 300 Sinatra Drive on Tuesday, June 23 and charged with promoting prostitution, conspiracy, and manufacturing, distributing, or dispensing a controlled dangerous substance.

Gilbert’s employer was listed in the arrest log as Lace Party Girls and her alias as “Sabrina.” Both were released on a suhmmons.
37 years old
Read more: Hudson Reporter - Police Beat Compiled by Timothy J Carroll 6 28 09"

This is the information that is usually put out there and I am still confused about the date of her second arrest/indictment? with JR. All the people connected to her tried to convince us she was working independantly and were concealing all this stuff with JR. Not hard to figure out why. Could he be connected to a Mexican Cartel. Yikes. For the first time I'm starting to consider that she may not have been connected to the GB4.

Your find of the July 6, 2007 arrest is new to me. Guess I missed it. Will have to do more research to figure that out.

According to Brewer and Diaz's story, they tried to fill out a missing person report and couldn't. It had to be done by the family and filed in the location the missing person had been residing, so it was filed in Jersey City. That had to have been the only missing person report filed. That's what I mean by the fact being jumbled up now and you have to keep in mind nobody is necessarily telling the true, including LE, and none of these reporters necessarily have their facts straight.
 
Great work, guys. You're really covering all your bases. However, I'm not sure this Ruiz guy quite fits into this whole thing. I think somewhere on or near Long Island there's a killer. He may be on hiatus, but he's not done yet. He used technology to meet girls that most people wouldn't care about should they go missing. He didn't recreate the wheel by choosing prostitutes as his targets. He's feeling the heat that the media has created, but I think he knows that LE doesn't have any serious leads pointing in his direction. I just think the calls to the sister of Melissa Barthelemy are definitive "proof" (if you can use such a word here) that it's one sick individual who is responsible for the GB4 and possibly others. As always, just my opinion.
 
genericwhitemale said:
Great work, guys. You're really covering all your bases. However, I'm not sure this Ruiz guy quite fits into this whole thing. I think somewhere on or near Long Island there's a killer. He may be on hiatus, but he's not done yet. He used technology to meet girls that most people wouldn't care about should they go missing. He didn't recreate the wheel by choosing prostitutes as his targets. He's feeling the heat that the media has created, but I think he knows that LE doesn't have any serious leads pointing in his direction. I just think the calls to the sister of Melissa Barthelemy are definitive "proof" (if you can use such a word here) that it's one sick individual who is responsible for the GB4 and possibly others. As always, just my opinion.
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Oh, and don't forget my belief that this guy had told LE where to find the GB4. It's no coincidence that Blue and his handler were out there in that specific area on a "training exercise." I have no proof of that, I just have a strong feeling. Plus, things he's done up til this point that can be verified (for the most part) lead me to believe all the more he's reached out to LE to take credit for his crimes. He's brazen, and that might just lead to his demise.
 
Redbird said:
So many of these links are gone now plus so many of these articles are just copied from one news source to another with various mistakes and misinformation, I'm not sure it's worth going over all this information, it could become a quagmire.
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*snipped & bbm

I do believe I've surpassed quagmire, re-invented the wheel, attached some miscellaneous whistles and bells... and have nothing more than what I had when I started. Oh well. :notgood:
 
You have given us some real gems. This possible connection to a "Mr. Big" and the information about JT's pimp were two amazing finds.
 
fred&edna said:
*snipped & bbm

I do believe I've surpassed quagmire, re-invented the wheel, attached some miscellaneous whistles and bells... and have nothing more than what I had when I started. Oh well. :notgood:
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I'm not at all convinced that all of this is irrelevant. The more we learn about these girls, how they worked, with whom they worked, what they did and didn't do, etc., the better our focus becomes, imo.

Ruis and his operation are not random. They are directly related to Shannan, and therefore might offer us insight.
 
Mountain_Kat said:
I'm not at all convinced that all of this is irrelevant. The more we learn about these girls, how they worked, with whom they worked, what they did and didn't do, etc., the better our focus becomes, imo.

Ruis and his operation are not random. They are directly related to Shannan, and therefore might offer us insight.
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Agreed. Nothing should be ruled out completely.
 
looked up the comment you referenced from the NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #5 (POST #968 by Chanler). I have never before heard Shannan's address as being Saddle River. At the time of her bust with Evangelista her address was Jersey City. They were busted at 300 Sinatra Drive on June 23,2009 according to old news article. They were charged with promoting prostitution, conspiracy, and manufacturing, distributing, or dispensing a controlled dangerous substance. Gilbert’s employer was listed in the arrest log as Lace Party Girls and her alias as “Sabrina.” Both were released on a summons."

I found this from an old Newsday article:

" How Gilbert turned to prostitution is unclear. But by July 2007, she was arrested on a prostitution charge at a northern New Jersey hotel, police say. Sometime later that year, she moved to Jersey City -- closer to Manhattan singing auditions -- but continued working as a prostitute,"

At the time of her disappearance she and Diaz were living at 159 Christopher Columbus Dr., Jersey City. There were several interviews with her neighbors. This would have been the address they decided was the correct jurisdiction for her missing person report.

Rereading the few articles that have not disappeared all say she lived in Jersey City. And I am pretty sure her bust with JR was never mentioned before. Maybe that is not important, but I think it is. It was hidden, lumped in with her bust with Lace Party Girls which folded in 2008. You can still access that website on Wayback. All witnesses and articles made it sound like she had only been busted once. Why?

The post #968 by Chanler came from an escort review/advertisement site that was against TOS to mention when it was mentioned. The post was followed by an admonition by a mod. I do not think it was correct or reliable.

The addresses I have mentioned for Shannan came from MSM and I don't think break any TOS rules. If so, mods,please remove.
 
Redbird said:
The post #968 by Chanler came from an escort review/advertisement site that was against TOS to mention when it was mentioned. The post was followed by an admonition by a mod. I do not think it was correct or reliable.

The addresses I have mentioned for Shannan came from MSM and I don't think break any TOS rules. If so, mods,please remove.
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I agree, details are important here :) Yes, Chanler's post came from a questionable source. However, the original article appeared in The Record (Bergen County, NJ) which does make it more reliable by WS TOS.

Evonne Coutros
The Record (Bergen County, NJ)
07-06-2007
Undercover cops bust 7 in prostitution sting -- Suspects linked to escort services
Evonne Coutros
Date: 07-06-2007, Friday
Section: LOCAL
Edtion: All Editions

UPPER SADDLE RIVER — Seven people were arrested during an undercover prostitution sting connected to three escort services, police said Thursday.

Shannan Gilbert, 21, of Upper Saddle River, Arlene Aguilar, 33, of Brooklyn, Elizabeth Gonzalez, 31, of Union City and Gladys Montalvo, 38, of Hoboken were arrested and charged with engaging in prostitution, said Upper Saddle River Police Chief Michael Fanning.


AND this article from Newsday
Published: April 30, 2011 9:54 PM
By MICHAEL AMON, MATTHEW CHAYES, CHAU LAM, PAUL LAROCCO, TANIA LOPEZ, JENNIFER SMITH & ANDREW STRICKLER
http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/gilbert-vanishing-reaches-one-year-mark-1.2849214

"How Gilbert turned to prostitution is unclear. But, by July 2007, she was arrested on a prostitution charge at a northern New Jersey hotel, police say. Sometime later that year, she moved to Jersey City -- closer to Manhattan singing auditions -- but continued working as a prostitute, her family said. She used pseudonyms such as Madison and Angelina, Diaz said, and adopted a "pop star" look, often wearing wigs and flashy clothes."


IMO, If you put these two reports together... the July 2007 arrest at a northern New Jersey hotel IS, in fact, the Upper Saddle River arrest.

Just because the arrest record stated "Shannan Gilbert, 21, of Upper Saddle River" does not necessarily mean she had her mail delivered there (*again my opinion)
 
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