Who Killed Jon Benet Ramsey? Poll

[Annapurna]

There is no reason to put panties on over diapers.

The panties were not bought for JonBenét, therefore they were not to cover diapers.

If you read the interview, PR gets real uncomfortable when this is brought up. She starts using very passive, distancing language. Lin Wood about has a fit, he starts attacking the cops interviewing her. She straight up lies, saying they were "not so different in size". Men accept this, the detective saying his son wears big boxers. Women know this is a lie. I think this means it is significant and PR knows why. She was the one who bought them (as she says) and she must have been the one who wrapped them (can't see JR wrapping many gifts). She would have known where they were in the basement. I think JR may have been asking her for "supplies" to complete his staging, while she went to go do her part (the note).

BR would not have put the panties on her. I agree he would have wanted to cover her if he found her, but as puka said it would be more likely with a blanket. She was cleaned well before being found. There was no blood found on her genitals, just a small amount of watery blood inside her and tiny spots of blood on the size 12's.


JR may have put the panties on her. I think he was complicit in the staging. I think he did the stuff PR couldn't handle. He may have cleaned the body and re-dressed her. JR would probably not have realized how ridiculous and improbable it looked for her to be wearing them. Boys can wear large boxers, but large panties on a girl would be uncomfortable. I think there is also something to the theory that they were just close by, in the basement. The stager may not have wanted to risk going back upstairs to her drawer to find clean ones.


I think whoever killed her, PR wrote the note, and JR did the dirty work. Just my opinion and subject to change.

 

[SapphireSteel]

There is no reason to put panties on over diapers.

The panties were not bought for JonBenét, therefore they were not to cover diapers.

If you read the interview, PR gets real uncomfortable when this is brought up. She starts using very passive, distancing language. Lin Wood about has a fit, he starts attacking the cops interviewing her. She straight up lies, saying they were "not so different in size". Men accept this, the detective saying his son wears big boxers. Women know this is a lie. I think this means it is significant and PR knows why. She was the one who bought them (as she says) and she must have been the one who wrapped them (can't see JR wrapping many gifts). She would have known where they were in the basement. I think JR may have been asking her for "supplies" to complete his staging, while she went to go do her part (the note).

BR would not have put the panties on her. I agree he would have wanted to cover her if he found her, but as puka said it would be more likely with a blanket. She was cleaned well before being found. There was no blood found on her genitals, just a small amount of watery blood inside her and tiny spots of blood on the size 12's.


JR may have put the panties on her. I think he was complicit in the staging. I think he did the stuff PR couldn't handle. He may have cleaned the body and re-dressed her. JR would probably not have realized how ridiculous and improbable it looked for her to be wearing them. Boys can wear large boxers, but large panties on a girl would be uncomfortable. I think there is also something to the theory that they were just close by, in the basement. The stager may not have wanted to risk going back upstairs to her drawer to find clean ones.


I think whoever killed her, PR wrote the note, and JR did the dirty work. Just my opinion and subject to change.

Ok.

JR did not know the panties existed.

the only 3 people who knew they were there were PR and the children

If we agree PR and JR did not place the underwear on JB, that only leaves ONE possibility!

 

[Ellie9]

Distancing and lying to protect Burke?

I DO NOT THINK BURKE KILLED JB

I think Burke may have gone looking for her sometime in the night

found her, covered her.

Poor Burke, poor JB.

Honestly I'm not sure about Burke. I didn't say anything about him in my post. I think it's possible, but I truly have not made up my mind as to the brother's involvement at all.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Honestly I'm not sure about Burke. I didn't say anything about him in my post. I think it's possible, but I truly have not made up my mind as to the brother's involvement at all.

There was a lot of funky stuff going on in that house.

Burke is Not Needed as a Suspect.

He simply could not have committed this crime. No matter how you look at it.

He could (and to my mind, did) find his sister already deceased and try to "fix" her.

BDI is the Most Insane Theory Ive ever heard, actually

but the "staging within staging" is quite possible, and utterly explainable if Burke found his sister.

 

[CorallaroC]

Too bad they can't grant Burke immunity and then see if he'll go on the poly. If he still refused then that could speak volumes.

problm is, he was already on immunity because of his age back when the crime occurred - there is less than ZERO reason for him to come forward now with ANY info, jmho

Unless of course he wanted to help set the record straight to help obtain justice for his sister's murder. Still very doubtful that he would help out, it would likely only place himself under more scrutiny than he has been under for nearly twenty years. Ask our legal experts - would his coming forward with info jeopardize the "island of privacy" his parents' obtained from their lawyers back then? My guess is, it would only open the proverbial can of worms.

JMHO

 

[Ellie9]

There was a lot of funky stuff going on in that house.

Burke is Not Needed as a Suspect.

He simply could not have committed this crime. No matter how you look at it.

He could (and to my mind, did) find his sister already deceased and try to "fix" her.

BDI is the Most Insane Theory Ive ever heard, actually

but the "staging within staging" is quite possible, and utterly explainable if Burke found his sister.

Well honestly if Burke had any involvement I would not look at the child/man now, differently at all. I think at that age, and considering he may have suffered from abuse, he should have no criminal responsibility at all for anything he did or didn't do. He was just a little kid, and in that house - if RDI - he must have faced some serious disadvantages emotionally/psychologically.

 

[OliviaG1996]

Well honestly if Burke had any involvement I would not look at the child/man now, differently at all. I think at that age, and considering he may have suffered from abuse, he should have no criminal responsibility at all for anything he did or didn't do. He was just a little kid, and in that house - if RDI - he must have faced some serious disadvantages emotionally/psychologically.

BBM: If he had anything to do with the cord, I disagree with that statement. If he was only responsible for the head bash in a fit of rage and regretted what he had done, then I agree, but I still think he should've been punished in one way or another.

 

[SapphireSteel]

BBM: If he had anything to do with the cord, I disagree with that statement. If he was only responsible for the head bash in a fit of rage and regretted what he had done, then I agree, but I still think he should've been punished in one way or another.

I suggest the loss of his sister was punishment enough.

His parents murdered his sister, most likely - also Punishment Enough for a child.

Poor Burke - even now hes being viewed as a Murderer at age 9

Congratulations John Ramsey. YOU caused this!

 

[SapphireSteel]

Well honestly if Burke had any involvement I would not look at the child/man now, differently at all. I think at that age, and considering he may have suffered from abuse, he should have no criminal responsibility at all for anything he did or didn't do. He was just a little kid, and in that house - if RDI - he must have faced some serious disadvantages emotionally/psychologically.

The chances he was an abused child are about 98%

The poor kid was likely TERRIFIED all childhood

Again - as an abused child myself, I remember NOTHING

the brain is a wonderous instrument that tries to ensure you survive all sorts of horrors by Forgetting

Burke (imo) will have no memory at all.

 

[Annapurna]

Sapphire what makes you think Burke knew about the panties? PR bought them on a trip to NY with JB. Burke wouldn't care at all about some girl's panties, so he wouldn't have known about them when they were wrapped up in a gift.

My suggestion was that JR could have been given them by PR. Or just PR herself put them on her.

This can still fit with your theory. It's just that it's illogical for BR to have done this particular thing.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Sapphire what makes you think Burke knew about the panties? PR bought them on a trip to NY with JB. Burke wouldn't care at all about some girl's panties, so he wouldn't have known about them when they were wrapped up in a gift.

My suggestion was that JR could have been given them by PR. Or just PR herself put them on her.

This can still fit with your theory. It's just that it's illogical for BR to have done this particular thing.

don't you remember being a kid

the Sheer Delight of finding the Christmas presents wherever your parents hid them?

I think it was Burke because the panties are Too Much

Per LE = staging within staging

No adult would have placed that underwear on JB.

No way, no how. (IMO) There is absolutely No Need to Do So.

It screams CHILD to me.

Remember - she was already deceased - why bother dressing her in giant pants?

Giant pants that only a Ramsey could possibly know existed? There is no way JR would've done that, he's not stupid!

I bet every single wrapped gift in that house had a tiny torn corner where JB and B had gone and peeked.

 

[OliviaG1996]

I suggest the loss of his sister was punishment enough.

His parents murdered his sister, most likely - also Punishment Enough for a child.

Poor Burke - even now hes being viewed as a Murderer at age 9

Congratulations John Ramsey. YOU caused this!

BR isn't 9 anymore, though. As a grown man, he's refusing to talk to police, even if it's to repeat the "I don't remember" answers his parents loved to give.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Sapphire what makes you think Burke knew about the panties? PR bought them on a trip to NY with JB. Burke wouldn't care at all about some girl's panties, so he wouldn't have known about them when they were wrapped up in a gift.

My suggestion was that JR could have been given them by PR. Or just PR herself put them on her.

This can still fit with your theory. It's just that it's illogical for BR to have done this particular thing.

WHY?

Adding the underwear incriminates the family!!!

 

[Ellie9]

BR isn't 9 anymore, though. As a grown man, he's refusing to talk to police, even if it's to repeat the "I don't remember" answers his parents loved to give.

I think SS is saying that maybe Burke no longer has a memory of the event (due to childhood abuse/trauma). I remember reading in a forum that Burke told someone (as an adult) that he doesn't remember a single thing from the entire night or day that followed. This is actually plausible to me. It's also true he could be just saying this and he does remember. But it's not completely out of question that he has no memory.

This statement from a forum though - I don't have the original source, and even then it's sort of just rumour based on what one friend of his said. So this whole thing could be not true.

 

[SapphireSteel]

BR isn't 9 anymore, though. As a grown man, he's refusing to talk to police, even if it's to repeat the "I don't remember" answers his parents loved to give.

If he remembers nothing, there's nothing he can add.

Also, Ramseys lawyered up instantly - NONE of them talked to police without it being planned, scheduled and attended by Lawyers.

Also - Burke WAS interviewed.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I think SS is saying that maybe Burke no longer has a memory of the event (due to childhood abuse/trauma). I remember reading in a forum that Burke told someone (as an adult) that he doesn't remember a single thing from the entire night or day that followed. This is actually plausible to me. It's also true he could be just saying this and he does remember. But it's not completely out of question that he has no memory.

This statement from a forum though - I don't have the original source, and even then it's sort of just rumour based on what one friend of his said. So this whole thing could be not true.

its entirely likely he cant remember anything

what can everyone here remember from the age of 9?

what did you get for your 9th birthday?

===blank----

No idea, right?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Also - If I was Burke I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of bumbling tools either

(Colorado LE)

 

[OliviaG1996]

If he remembers nothing, there's nothing he can add.

Also, Ramseys lawyered up instantly - NONE of them talked to police without it being planned, scheduled and attended by Lawyers.

Also - Burke WAS interviewed.

Whether he was interviewed or not is no excuse not to speak with police now. We know new evidence has been discovered since whenever he was last interviewed (my guess is sometime in the 90s; if not, please let me know). IMO, thinking he has nothing left to add is not a valid excuse to deny an interview. Also, IMO, he remembers plenty about the night his sister was murdered whether he was involved or not.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Whether he was interviewed or not is no excuse not to speak with police now. We know new evidence has been discovered since whenever he was last interviewed (my guess is sometime in the 90s; if not, please let me know). IMO, thinking he has nothing left to add is not a valid excuse to deny an interview. Also, IMO, he remembers plenty about the night his sister was murdered whether he was involved or not.

What level of confidence do you have in Colorado LE?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Lets all remember a Grand Jury voted to indict John and Patsy

NOT BURKE

why didn't JR and PR get charged?

Colorado LE.

Who has faith in these people? Not I....