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I still think that one or both of the brothers' wives knew something and might be the tipster.
 
txsvicki said:
I still think that one or both of the brothers' wives knew something and might be the tipster.
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Well, txs, I don't know about either of them being the "tipster" but I would bet everything they knew something...(and a lot more then something)
 
My guess would be MC since they had her at the search site tonight. Probably am wrong though :waitasec:
 
I was wondering also if it was Misti but I am also wondering of she made a deal. I wonder if the police would make a deal with her tho.
My mind is wondering all the time in this case.
 
Well, according to Det. Brown he is the reason they are out there searching...so I'll have to go with him since he's probably the only one who's never been in jail or is currently in jail.
 
I think maybe LC, TC or MC. or combination if they thought they were about to be ratted on.

I kind of feel like LC's behaviour, distancing fromTC, name change, moving, etc, that she either knew, or found out recently with TC locked up and told LE what she had found or such. or along those lines maybe and the pressure got to TC, maybe knowing TC was going to talk got Misty to talk.
 
I have been thinking about your opening question Kimster and find it very interesting.

Here are two links to both Sheriff Hardy's PC and Detective Bowlings.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/041510-Haleigh-Cummings-case

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid42757796001?bctid=78372282001

Both of these law officials say "over the past few weeks" their investigation has led them to believe that Haleigh's case is a homicide.

They stressed that they have done many interviews and thousands of tips.

I saw a YouTube video of the countless binders and disc they have accumulated in their office during this investigation. It was a huge amount imo.

So my question is was the tipster so exact in what they told LE that LE then went to Tommy and Tommy knew it was all over and he had to tell what he knew and had done? LE would never tell Tommy who let them know but Tommy would know if what they were saying was true and I think he did know and it scared the crap out of him.

Because "over the past few weeks" Tommy had not talked to Granny Hollars yet about telling what he knew on Joe. Tommy hadn't even gotten with his lawyer yet. Tommy didn't do that until right around the time they started searching the river.

Hardy said people are beginning to talk. So does he mean someone else besides Tommy and Misty because Bowlings says she was cooperative. Someone who just couldn't get up the nerve to say anything for over a year but decided they couldn't live with themselves any longer so they called the tip line?

Very thought provoking imo.

IMO
 
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23145771/index.html

The above interview is with S Brown(the PI) who states he has been working the case for 10 months and that he solved the case the Sunday night before the Shell harbor search. I feel that he could be the tipster, he seems to think he is. The thing is, if Tommy called Gramma Flo and told her about his conversation with S Brown then she very well could have called and reported what he told her as well. I don't really know. Tommy was asking for Gramma Flo to ask Lyndsy to get his lawyer down there....So did he come clean to his lawyer after his conversation with gramma Flo? Very confusing. Here is the Art harris article that states the PI S Brown was working for Werter: http://www.artharris.com/2010/04/30/exclusive-tommy-croslin-says-he-lied-to-cops/

snip~Only now, Tommy has provided new details that sparked the police search of the St. John’s River April 13, according to his lawyer, James Werter, who took the new information to the State Attorney after he talked to Tommy about the results of a private polygraph we reported he failed, but Werter has refused to discuss.

Later, Tommy lead PCSD detectives along the banks with Werter and PI Steve Brown in tow, a location he was claiming he’d been to when his cousin reportedly tied Haleigh to a cinder block with a yellow rope and tossed her into the swift, murky water, teaming with crabs and alligators.~ end

In the video however the PI said he worked for Crystal S for 10 months. Could this case be anymore confusing??

Didn't Werter say that Tommy was the tipster? But, I have to wonder if that is sort of defense attorney speak because if Tommy were the tipster wouldn't he be the one getting the better plea deal, or at least the one that is being worked with and last night NG stated that there was no plea deal for Tommy in the works. :waitasec:
 
I don't think Tommy is the tipster that convinced LE that this was a homicide case and I don't even think it was Brown's evidence he turned over.

LE seemed to know weeks before the walls came tumbling down that Haleigh was deceased.

Now Brown may have done some investigating on his own even going to Tennessee and talked with those who may have known Joe well and been extremely close to him and they could have revealed some damaging things that paralleled the on going LE investigation. I am not sure if he is still working for Crystal now. He may be working for Werter. He says he only worked for Crystal for 10 months.

Tommy is the one that showed LE the exact location because he was singing like a canary by then that Joe did it but the tipster imo had already told LE weeks before what went down and who was involved.

No wonder Hardy is guarding this person's privacy and confidentiality at this time.

IMO someone else definitely called in a viable tip weeks ago that led to the house of cards falling down.

IMO
 
Maybe the tipster was the A/C guy. Maybe he over heard something while working at the mh. He has been protected by LE since day 1.

I don't know if i even believe this, but it was a thought :)
 
oceanblueeyes said:
This was said on December 31, 2009

"Greenwood said some new information has come to light about what happened in the days leading up to Haleigh's disappearance - as well as what happened the night she vanished.

However, he would not elaborate because he said he did not want to jeopardize the case."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=150139&provider=rss
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Very interesting. This was before the drug busts and I remember getting all excited about it when I read the article then after all the arrests.....I forgot all about that statement. Wonder what he was referring to??
 
What about the person that saw Misty at the Harbor with the black plastic bag? What about the person that saw the white truck/van at the harbor?
 
oceanblueeyes said:
This was said on December 31, 2009

"Greenwood said some new information has come to light about what happened in the days leading up to Haleigh's disappearance - as well as what happened the night she vanished.

However, he would not elaborate because he said he did not want to jeopardize the case."


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=150139&provider=rss
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Please tell me they didn't have this information the end of December, and waited till April to check it out!
 
I am thinking that maybe it is Lindsey Croslin. She made that trip up to MA and after that things just started happening. The river search in April, and then her filing for divorce. She went to MA before the March 31st court date. IMO, I think she got some info out of Chelsea and Timmy, maybe wore a wire, maybe even bugged the place who knows..Maybe I am watching to much CSI. LOL, but it is plausible if you think about it.
 
Maryann123 said:
Please tell me they didn't have this information the end of December, and waited till April to check it out!
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I think they knew who and what had happened. They did not know the location where Haleigh had been put in the river.

That came from Tommy in April.

IMO
 
MADJGNLAW said:
I am thinking that maybe it is Lindsey Croslin. She made that trip up to MA and after that things just started happening. The river search in April, and then her filing for divorce. She went to MA before the March 31st court date. IMO, I think she got some info out of Chelsea and Timmy, maybe wore a wire, maybe even bugged the place who knows..Maybe I am watching to much CSI. LOL, but it is plausible if you think about it.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised Madjgnlaw.

I think it is someone very close to/in the family. Someone who wasnt there that night and wouldn't know the exact location were Haleigh was put but has been told in great detail what happened and who did it.

Someone willing to take a poly to prove what they were told.

IMO
 
I found this today, not sure if it was posted yet. http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...heriff-status-haleigh-cummings-case-unchanged

snip~Hollars, 67, said she told Croslin Jr. she wanted the truth when he called her from jail, where the 23-year-old is being held on unrelated drug charges.

She said he cried as he told her that Overstreet took Haleigh out of the Satsuma trailer where she lived after he was unable to find a machine gun the two men were going to steal. Overstreet put a knife to the throat of Misty Croslin, then Haleigh’s father’s girlfriend, and took Haleigh, Hollars said she was told.

She said it was the wife of another Croslin sibling who told her where to search in the waterway and woods off County Road 309 about five miles from where Haleigh was last seen in Satsuma.

Hollars said she called an investigator in Putnam County Sunday night with the information.~ end snip

In regards to the statement I bolded, I wonder who Flora meant by "the wife of another Croslin sibling"? She stated Tommy told her the story about what happened to Haleigh, the wife of another Croslin sibling told her where they dumped Haleigh? Which other sibling would know? This statement has me :waitasec: Could she mean Lyndsy? Or Chelsea?
 
elle1919 said:
I found this today, not sure if it was posted yet. http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...heriff-status-haleigh-cummings-case-unchanged

snip~Hollars, 67, said she told Croslin Jr. she wanted the truth when he called her from jail, where the 23-year-old is being held on unrelated drug charges.

She said he cried as he told her that Overstreet took Haleigh out of the Satsuma trailer where she lived after he was unable to find a machine gun the two men were going to steal. Overstreet put a knife to the throat of Misty Croslin, then Haleigh’s father’s girlfriend, and took Haleigh, Hollars said she was told.

She said it was the wife of another Croslin sibling who told her where to search in the waterway and woods off County Road 309 about five miles from where Haleigh was last seen in Satsuma.

Hollars said she called an investigator in Putnam County Sunday night with the information.~ end snip

In regards to the statement I bolded, I wonder who Flora meant by "the wife of another Croslin sibling"? She stated Tommy told her the story about what happened to Haleigh, the wife of another Croslin sibling told her where they dumped Haleigh? Which other sibling would know? This statement has me :waitasec: Could she mean Lyndsy? Or Chelsea?
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I think it was Chelsea who told her where to search.

From NG:
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I have met Flo Hollars maybe two times. She is not involved in our family. So I don`t know why she would want to hurt and implicate three of her grandchildren. It`s just very sad that she would do that.

GRACE: Ms. Hollars, what`s your response to that?

HOLLARS: My response to that is why did she tell me the road to tell them to go at?

GRACE: Repeat?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Well, Nanny, you -- Nanny, you were the one that said, Where do you want searched? And I said I wanted 309, not specifically a dock -- I said 309 because I got a letter from Misty stating that Joe might have had -- or Joe was the involving party. So from there, I called the detective, Kay Sangelica (ph), the head detective on the case. I told them about it.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html
 
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