Why is Adam Baker not in jail?

[Pondering Mind]

Everyone should just save their money and get their moms to defend them instead of an atty.

I know right? R Cummngs, C Anthony ..and now Adam..just to name a few..

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Didn't someone say something about the family standing by him?

Heck, I don't know. I blanked out after, "I just wanna have a normal life."

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Sherlock's interview run-down:

It was very short: I edited to correct after I went back through the video.

AB wants the world to know he is not a monster.
AB said he wanted to go to this vigil tonight but he said he didn’t want everybody to take their focus off Zahra.
People would have made a scene he says, calling him names, they’ve done it before.
They are calling you murderer?
AB: Yea
Signs up at old house blaming him and his wife for what happened to Zahra
But people are wrong about him he says.
AB: No way in the world I would ever hurt my daughter
Police say Zahra is dead and apparently cut up and her remains in several locations.
Did Adam play a part in that?
AB: No, there is no way I would do that to my baby.
You didn’t dismember her?
AB: NNNo.
Asked about EB and said they aren’t telling him much but thinks they are closer to learning the truth.
AB and mom watched via the internet.
AB: It meant the world to me.
Mom was beside him for support and will stay there she says.
Mom: It’s really hard to hear people call him murderers and a child abuser but people don’t know.
Mom: Z taught everyone courage
Adam says the pain of losing her will not go away.
AB said he would like to have a normal life but it will never possible here.
AB says when it’s over he would like to go back to Australia and take Zahra with him.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I like when you post, Duck.

 

[peg4x4]

I know we can't see his criminal record(if any),but why hasn't anyone who knew him as a boy/young man came forward??
Are they afraid? Did he have any friends?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Good question, Peg...ED didn't even mention things that went on between them or why he just upped and left without letting her know where he and Zahra went. She did have visitations and I truly wonder WHY he moved and left no forwarding address for ED to keep in contact with their child. Seems things weren't amicable between them...so sad for precious Zahra. JMHO

Justice for Zahra

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Good question, Peg...ED didn't even mention things that went on between them or why he just upped and left without letting her know where he and Zahra went. She did have visitations and I truly wonder WHY he moved and left no forwarding address for ED to keep in contact with their child. Seems things weren't amicable between them...so sad for precious Zahra. JMHO

Justice for Zahra

Actually, ED has said a few things about AB. She didn't go into great detail (I'm assuming because she felt it just wasn't the time or place), but she did indicated that AB was abusive. She didn't say he was physically abusive (didn't say he wasn't either), but she did say that he was verbally abusive. If I recall correctly, so much so that he made her feel as though she were nothing.

 

[Aedrys]

Maybe Australia is afraid of AB's mom?

In all serious though, no on there or here has said very nice things about him or have really taken up for him except his mom. And it seems like Zahra was just as loved there as here. I'm thinking people in both places fear the worst and/or want AB to get punished for not preventing the death of this precious child.

 

[passionflower]

It is odd that we do not here he was a good/bad husband, son, student, worker, neighbor.
Was he a loner? follower? leader?
Did AB have allot of friends?
Was he ever in jail in AU?
Did he ever threaten, abuse ED?
Was he a good/bad father?
A hands on dad?
Did he pass bad checks in AU?
Was AB always by Zahra's side during her illness?
Does AB drink? drugs?
Why did he move so many times?
We know nothing of his past/ good or bad...........WHY????

 

[FaerieB]

Actually, ED has said a few things about AB. She didn't go into great detail (I'm assuming because she felt it just wasn't the time or place), but she did indicated that AB was abusive. She didn't say he was physically abusive (didn't say he wasn't either), but she did say that he was verbally abusive. If I recall correctly, so much so that he made her feel as though she were nothing.

Really? I haven't read that. Do you happen to have a link handy?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Really? I haven't read that. Do you happen to have a link handy?

It was from her posts on HM.

ETA: I'm still not clear on the rules here about posting HM links, but if a mod gives me the go ahead, I'll try to find that post and link to it here.

 

[the seeker]

Ok, here is my opinion and the way a picture of AB based on what little we know of him has been percieved by me.

First, it seems to me he kept her away from bio mom for a reason....it is possible she was being abused by him and he didnt want bio mom to find out, which she may have depending on the abuse.

Grandma was pretty involved and I seem to remember it being said that for the most part she was raising Zahra, so this would indicate that he was not taking responsibility as he should, as her father and he was probably NOT a hands on father.

Because no one is stepping foward, other than mom as a positive (or negative really) character witness, may mean that he was indeed a loner, and without many friends.

His behavior here with the bad checks etc...would indicate to ME (again all my opinion..and you know what they say about those) that he is either a) no stranger to criminal behavior or b) very weak, and easily led by others like EB.
That being said, sometimes just the right combination of personalities getting together ( a certain type of leader and certain type of follower) can be deadly as has been seen in many cases of homicide involving two suspects.

 

[4BB]

There was a poster who came forward to speak about AB. She had known him since childhood. That poster was flagged and was being verified and no word has been heard since.

I even started a thread a while back asking about Zahra's life in OZ. How many times did AB move? (no posts there so there must be no information)
ED is a brave, lovely woman. I feel that she is sensationalizing her story a bit. Zahra was in the news for Camp Hope and in the news in NC in May. That doesn't portray to me a child who is being hidden from anyone. Especially when they linked her name directly to the article, photos and videos. This does not discount her pain, grief or love for Zahra at all. Please don't feel I'm bashing her.
I just think there are many holes in the story that need to be filled in.

If Zahra was moved over and over in Oz then how many times and how often did she relocate in order for AB and KB to "hide" her?

What was Zahra's childhood like?
Was KB the primary caretaker?
Was AB an active parent?

Did his trouble with law enforcement only begin when he met EB? He was most likely charged with bad checks because his name was on them. That doesn't necessarily show a willingness to break the law to me though. He was becoming acclimated to the new government, culture, laws, etc

 

[tehcloser]

I'm pretty sure we can link to the Hinky Meter..........we did when we were discussing her posts over there, unless something changed.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm pretty sure we can link to the Hinky Meter..........we did when we were discussing her posts over there, unless something changed.

Still trying to find ED's exact post on this subject, but finding a post over there is like wading through a quagmire! My eyes are killing me, and my scroll hand is tingling, so I need to take a break. I'll keep looking in a bit.

If anyone else has a link to that post, TIA , because slogging through all these comments on HM is driving me insane!

 

[DLT88]

Actually, ED has said a few things about AB. She didn't go into great detail (I'm assuming because she felt it just wasn't the time or place), but she did indicated that AB was abusive. She didn't say he was physically abusive (didn't say he wasn't either), but she did say that he was verbally abusive. If I recall correctly, so much so that he made her feel as though she were nothing.

Wow, I didn't read that. That would explain what I have been suspecting -- that ED's long post-partem depression was made worse because of AB for whatever reason -- carrying his own mental health baggage, etc, and she HAD to leave to fully recover. I'm not an expert on this subject, but in my own childhood, my father was extremely verbally cruel and abusive to my mother. At certain times, but rarely, he would be verbally cruel to us kids. But it was not until I reached puberty, did I experience his full verbal cruelty directed at me. So if this is true about AB being verbally abusive in his relationships, how much did Zahra get from him? Especially since he snidely commented about her "puberty" in that 911 call. Was he starting to feel animosity toward her because she was becoming a woman (so he THOUGHT) as my father did?

 

[DLT88]

Maybe Australia is afraid of AB's mom?

In all serious though, no on there or here has said very nice things about him or have really taken up for him except his mom. And it seems like Zahra was just as loved there as here. I'm thinking people in both places fear the worst and/or want AB to get punished for not preventing the death of this precious child.

Seemed like his boss was sticking up for him way in the very beginning when he was interviewed on TV. He said something about he would believe the wife being involved but "not him". He couldn't see him doing anything like that. That's the interview when he commented that "the elevator doesn't go all the way to the top".

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Wow, I didn't read that. That would explain what I have been suspecting -- that ED's long post-partem depression was made worse because of AB for whatever reason -- carrying his own mental health baggage, etc, and she HAD to leave to fully recover. I'm not an expert on this subject, but in my own childhood, my father was extremely verbally cruel and abusive to my mother. At certain times, but rarely, he would be verbally cruel to us kids. But it was not until I reached puberty, did I experience his full verbal cruelty directed at me. So if this is true about AB being verbally abusive in his relationships, how much did Zahra get from him? Especially since he snidely commented about her "puberty" in that 911 call. Was he starting to feel animosity toward her because she was becoming a woman (so he THOUGHT) as my father did?

You can read alot of Biomum's comments here:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/10/28/zahra-baker-case-a-review-of-yesterdays-activities/#comments

The post where she discusses her relationship with Adam, and says that he was mentally abusive, was much later on, in response to a poster asking her the question directly. I haven't been able to find that particular post yet.

 

[tlcya]

As commented on earlier, we did have a poster claiming to be a childhood family friend of AB and the Bakers. To my knowledge this person did not take steps to be vetted or was not able to be vetted.

I too am very surprised that no old buddies, no former coworkers, etc from Australia have come out to paint a different picture of AB than the one many here are seeing.
Three main possible reasons:

1) he was a loner and did not have many friends.

2) None of his past friends want to jump into this crazy story/arena to comment

3) nobody has anything good to say.

 

[Lera213]

There was a poster who came forward to speak about AB. She had known him since childhood. That poster was flagged and was being verified and no word has been heard since.

I even started a thread a while back asking about Zahra's life in OZ. How many times did AB move? (no posts there so there must be no information)
ED is a brave, lovely woman. I feel that she is sensationalizing her story a bit. Zahra was in the news for Camp Hope and in the news in NC in May. That doesn't portray to me a child who is being hidden from anyone. Especially when they linked her name directly to the article, photos and videos. This does not discount her pain, grief or love for Zahra at all. Please don't feel I'm bashing her.
I just think there are many holes in the story that need to be filled in.

If Zahra was moved over and over in Oz then how many times and how often did she relocate in order for AB and KB to "hide" her?

What was Zahra's childhood like?
Was KB the primary caretaker?
Was AB an active parent?

Did his trouble with law enforcement only begin when he met EB? He was most likely charged with bad checks because his name was on them. That doesn't necessarily show a willingness to break the law to me though. He was becoming acclimated to the new government, culture, laws, etc

Emily probably didn't have TV or maybe she was far enough away that it wasn't picked up on her local news station. Just like here in the USA, I don't get local news a state away! This is unfair to Emily for we do not know her situation at the time. We do know that she has two other kids, that she had PPD, and very poor. Maybe she wasn't a TV watcher too. There could be many reasons as to why she never saw the News in OZ about Zahra's cancer!