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I'm happy jayme is home give her the reward
humans make mistakesThen the question would be why didn't he prepare a place to keep her? Ariel Castro boarded all the windows shut, and chained them to beds. This guy just stuffed her under a bed and put boxes around it. He planned every part of the crime in detail, except how to keep her from escaping.
Yes, it is tacky and horrible.
Sometimes people really want to help. But they don't really know how. And it ends up like this.
I do a fair amount of criminal defense work. But, I have NO IDEA what i would do if this case landed on my desk. As a private practice attorney, I get to pick and choose my clients. But public defenders don't.Thanks!
Gotta love the defense attorneys trying desperately to find a way to make this a hard case to win.
Uh, no. No way did he suffer a three month delusion that told him he was doing the right thing. "I didn't plan well enough."
I had the impression that defense CAN'T do anything so they were going to throw this out there to make it look like they tried.
I mean, what can they do? It would be great if they just plead guilty and be done with it, but they have to at least look like the public defender didn't just throw in the towel and call him guilty too.
I do a fair amount of criminal defense work. But, I have NO IDEA what i would do if this case landed on my desk. As a private practice attorney, I get to pick and choose my clients. But public defenders don't.
I haven't read tooShe will need counciling to help her with trama
I was in the USMC for 8 years --early 80s to 90This describes a lot of people, unfortunately.
This serial killer passed boot camp though, and received an “other than honorable” discharge after serving two years.
Probably for minor offenses, or in lieu of a court martial.
I do a fair amount of criminal defense work. But, I have NO IDEA what i would do if this case landed on my desk. As a private practice attorney, I get to pick and choose my clients. But public defenders don't.
I was in the Marines for 8 yearsIt does say "Patterson was one of 34,581 people sent to Marine recruit training in 2015 and he was one of 2,295 discharged before graduation." Which means on average just under seven percent of those in training don't make it through. I am actually surprised it is that low.
A normal life...another thing JP took away from her..Poor kid. She just wants to fade into as normal a life as she can. People need to leave her the F alone. Not make her some sort of ghoulish "inspiration".
...IMO, --from my readings--I think a lot of times you can't tell if someone is a '''crazy''' serial killer/murderer/abductor and/or will be in the futureThe great tragedy of our mental health system is that a person, child or adult, has to commit a crime before they are separated from society in any meaningful way. Insurance plans for mental illness offer in-patient care only if a person is a danger to himself or others. They stabilize with medications without getting to the root of a mental illness, often keeping the patient from a couple to 30 days. I'm sure there are exceptions but I haven't heard of them.
There's always unaccountable weirdness and anomalies in anything, including criminal cases and trials, but there is nothing in the information made public so far to suggest that this can't and won't be be held fully responsible for the crimes he committed, and everything to indicate that he will be.
By his own admission he carefully planned, over weeks, to murder and to kidnap a child. He then chose, day after day after day, for three months, to hold that child captive and to conceal her from whatever visitors he actually had (I suspect it was only his father, and on some, not every Saturday).
For that matter, he could have chosen to kill Jayme at any point during the interminable months he held her, but did not. His defense could try to spin the fact that he didn't as somehow mitigating, but the little Jayme told LE about her captivity suggests it was anything but, as does the 's confession, which suggests instead that he took sadistic pleasure in her terror, and in his belief that he wielded complete control over her.
Who cares what label can or may or will be slapped on, after the fact, at trial or elsewhere, to "explain" his motivation. No label or diagnosis will change the fact of his culpability, and IMO, none, no matter how expertly defined or argued, will be able to truly explain how he or anyone else is capable of such horrors, and of feeling remorseless afterwards.
Unfortunately these are the kind of cases where an attorney can make "a name for themselves". If they find any sort of crack that can get this case dismissed because of false evidence, coercion or any other thing like that, it can mean big money for them. I am not by any means saying this will definitely happen or that I agree with it, however, it happens. These high Profile cases also bring out private law firms offering to do the case Pro Bono just to get their names out there.I had the impression that defense CAN'T do anything so they were going to throw this out there to make it look like they tried.
I mean, what can they do? It would be great if they just plead guilty and be done with it, but they have to at least look like the public defender didn't just throw in the towel and call him guilty too.
Speaking for myself, I don't feel like I do know the reasons he kidnapped and kept her. The obvious may be a big part of it, but I don't assume that, and I suspect there's more. Only long hours with a psychiatrist, if that were to ever happen, would tell us, IMO.
I am wondering that too, about being televised. I believe that at some point they will move it out of Barron County for a trial and I have wondered if they will purposely move it to a location that does not allow cameras in the court room.Is JP’s next appearance scheduled for Feb. 6th? Does anyone know what time & will it be televised?
TIA
can you name/link a few where a murderer confessed and the lawyer got him off?Unfortunately these are the kind of cases where an attorney can make "a name for themselves". If they find any sort of crack that can get this case dismissed because of false evidence, coercion or any other thing like that, it can mean big money for them. I am not by any means saying this will definitely happen or that I agree with it, however, it happens. These high Profile cases also bring out private law firms offering to do the case Pro Bono just to get their names out there.