Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #42

[BradB]

You just never know what the future might hold.

I remember the days of beepers clearly. Now look at us.

 

[ilovechili]

No. This is about the best interests of the victim.

They have enough to nail him for two murders, and a kidnapping.

He will serve life without parole, no matter what.

Jayme has been victimized enough. I absolutely love this decision by the district attorney.

I agree both ways, it depends on the sentence that results and we do not know that yet. At that time they can re-evaluate if necessary. Things are not instant although I just as anyone else expect them to be. I think the minimum statute of limitations is 3 years isn't it? There is plenty of time.

 

[MassGuy]

I agree both ways, it depends on the sentence that results and we do not know that yet. At that time they can re-evaluate if necessary. Things are not instant although I just as anyone else expect them to be. I think the minimum statute of limitations is 3 years isn't it? There is plenty of time.

Yeah. Unless he isn’t sentenced to life in prison, it is clear that the Douglas County DA is going to stand pat.

I was reading an article prior to this statement, in which a former prosecutor said that the minimum statute of limitations In Wisconsin, is six years for felonies.

Some more serious crimes have time periods beyond that.

 

[mtnlites]

You just never know what the future might hold.

I remember the days of beepers clearly. Now look at us.

Technology changes. If two murders and a kidnapping doesn't keep him in prison forever, then I am not sure that an additional charge would matter.

 

[ilovechili]

Yeah. Unless he isn’t sentenced to life in prison, it is clear that the Douglas County DA is going to stand pat.

I was reading an article prior to this statement, in which a former prosecutor said that the minimum statute of limitations In Wisconsin, is six years for felonies.

Some more serious crimes have time period beyond that.

Thank you, I think civil things are like three years, I knew it was the minimum. I know in some areas SA they have extended for years since children do not always remember until they are adults, not sure about that in WI and the criteria. Murder is no statute isn't it? Can always be charged?

 

[MassGuy]

Thank you, I think civil things are like three years, I knew it was the minimum. I know in some areas SA they have extended for years since children do not always remember until they are adults, not sure about that in WI and the criteria. Murder is no statute isn't it? Can always be charged?

Correct. Thank God.

 

[Irmese]

DBM

 

[Jabarn]

I know investigators have looked at all the leads, and may have some kind of computer based analysis system to cross reference similar crimes across the nation, even without DNA, since it makes sense to me BG is a transient who covers his tracks well. What I am not sure is how well the communication occurs across jurisdictions.

Also, we never heard back whether or not the FB interview with Leazenby would be allowed, but he did not seem to rule out the girls may have planned a meeting up with some unknown person of the trails. I have not been a fan of that theory, fwiw. But is could be that.

Such a horrible case, and so sad. Middle school is when young teens start to look around and find a place to fit in... glad Abby and Libby had each other.

 

[Seattle1]

Watching the 20/20 on Cary Stayner last night, it's amazing at how far the media has come from Steven Stayner's abduction in the 70s. When he was reunited with his family, the media actually announced that there were "homosexual relations" with him and his captor. He was 7 years old when he was kidnapped-that's not a relationship, that's a pedophile raping a child. It caused a ton of problems with bullying in his high school. They also had Steven and his family doing press conferences and interviews right there on the steps of his home as he was being reunited with the rest of his family. And when he appeared on "Good Morning America", the interviewer even asked him why he'd never tried to escape.

At least, if nothing else, we've come farther than that. Of course, now we have a lot more understanding of trauma, particularly when it comes to abductions.

I've often wondered if all the media attention and reporters "early reveal" of alleged SA affected the charges/punishment of SS captor. I was sickened to learn that his abductor only sentenced to 7 years prison, and was out in 6.

 

[MyBelle]

Yeah. Unless he isn’t sentenced to life in prison, it is clear that the Douglas County DA is going to stand pat.

I was reading an article prior to this statement, in which a former prosecutor said that the minimum statute of limitations In Wisconsin, is six years for felonies.

Some more serious crimes have time periods beyond that.

There is no way he'll receive less than life without parole, imo.

 

[MassGuy]

There is no way he'll receive less than life without parole, imo.

Absolutely not.

He’s spectacularly dangerous, and might as well be the poster boy for LWOP.

It’s a forgone conclusion at this point.

 

[Jabarn]

I've often wondered if all the media attention and "early reveal" of alleged SA affected the charges/punishment of SS captor. I was sickened to learn that his abductor only sentenced to 7 years prison, and was out in 6.

Yes, that was strange, for sure. That whole situation with the Stayner family was surreal and strange. As for Jake P, I do suspect his being left alone so much plays a part- if that’s true, he was left alone- in his psychological development (not an excuse, of course, for cold blooded murder- so much is still unknown).

 

[Jabarn]

Absolutely not.

He’s spectacularly dangerous, and might as well be the poster boy for LWOP.

It’s a forgone conclusion at this point.

Yes, he has admitted to murder. There may be something come up with his mental health though. Too soon to tell.

 

[katydid23]

I've often wondered if all the media attention and reporters "early reveal" of alleged SA affected the charges/punishment of SS captor. I was sickened to learn that his abductor only sentenced to 7 years prison, and was out in 6.

I Know! I was surprised to learn last night, that he was out in time to kidnap yet another child, but was caught and finally given a life sentence. He should have never been free in the 1st place.

He took Steven, had him for years, assaulting him at will, ----how is that not a life sentence right there. ????

 

[katydid23]

Yes, he has admitted to murder. There may be something come up with his mental health though. Too soon to tell.

He acted very logically and there was a lot of rational premeditation. He is not walking away from this over any kind of mental health excuse. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, he has admitted to murder. There may be something come up with his mental health though. Too soon to tell.

Good luck to his defense team with that, as he has zero chance of winning.

His actions before, during, and after the initial crime, prove that he knew what he was doing, and knew what he was doing was wrong.

Cut and dry.

 

[mtnlites]

I've often wondered if all the media attention and reporters "early reveal" of alleged SA affected the charges/punishment of SS captor. I was sickened to learn that his abductor only sentenced to 7 years prison, and was out in 6.

And then did it again.

 

[mtnlites]

I Know! I was surprised to learn last night, that he was out in time to kidnap yet another child, but was caught and finally given a life sentence. He should have never been free in the 1st place.

He took Steven, had him for years, assaulting him at will, ----how is that not a life sentence right there. ????

Apparently, there was no "proof" of the SA so he didn't go to trial for it. He kidnapped Steven, held and assaulted him for 7 years, kidnapped Timothy White, and only got 7 years. It wasn't until he was released and tried to take a third child that they finally put him away for life.

Lots of changes in the past 40 years, thankfully.

 

[katydid23]

Apparently, there was no "proof" of the SA so he didn't go to trial for it. He kidnapped Steven, held and assaulted him for 7 years, kidnapped Timothy White, and only got 7 years. It wasn't until he was released and tried to take a third child that they finally put him away for life.

Lots of changes in the past 40 years, thankfully.

I was just talking to my attorney brother about it because he practiced law with my father in this general area for decades. He said that public sentiment went against the long prison sentence because no proof of SA and also because the child didn't try and run. Jurors couldn't understand that at the time.

 

[Ragnarok]

Reading through the Wisconsin criminal statutes there are a variety of statues of limitations for crimes against children. Limitations vary based on child's age, nature of crime, and repetition of crimes within a certain time period. The different statute of limitations are generally none, 45 years, 10 years, or 3 years.

A little confused by an article I read that stated most felonies had a six year statute of limitations. History wise Wisconsin over the decades has repeatedly extended the SOL when changed. Perhaps the article writer did not take into account that the victim here is a child?