AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #11

[Jethro4WS]

Thanks. So I wonder what the CFS # they linked to is? The log we have is for BNSO1831604, but they reference linking this case to BNSO1831605. Would the homicide get 1 case number, and the abduction another? Strange that it is only mentioned once in the entire log.

Based on where it occurs on the call log - After the ERT page - it is very possible that calling out the Emergency Response Team results in the generation of a separate incident.

 

[ThaiBali]

Instinct tells me that this is the bathroom window we see under the bench (note it's size and location). So IF Denise had barricaded herself in this bathroom, perhaps someone attempted to get into the bathroom via the window by stepping on the bench ? (Just a thought. )

I'd have thought that window would be the kitchen window and the balcony door the dining area. I'm thinking the toilet and bathroom windows are the two above the garage. jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe they can get dna From the cell phone found at the house? I’ve wondered if the suspect grabbed the phone or picked it up to see 911 on the screen

I hope they get DNA from somewhere. Unless he was wearing gloves I would think they could get touch DNA. Don't know much about it, I just think it's pretty cool that they can get DNA samples from all those convicted of misdemeanors. I hope it helps solve a lot of cases. I think it especially helps in solving cold cases. Jmo

 

[elektroangel]

So they did open a report on another incident, then. Since they are linking #604 to #605. Would it make sense, in your opinion, that the 2nd case number would be for the abduction? Just trying to figure out what would necessitate them linking 2 case numbers together for units responding to a singular incident.

Too early. They didn't know there was an abduction yet. That came almost 2 hours later.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think that the suspect is late teens/early to mid 20s. I honestly can't see anyone over the age of 25 doing this with the level of aggression and brazenness. I'd think that someone older would have done it more in a premeditated manner.

I dont discount anyone's age. Anyone is capable of doing something like this and age doesnt preclude them from doing it.

The age could be from teens to their 60s. No one really knows. It could even be a female involved. We dont know what we dont know yet.

If age stopped someone from doing murders like this then our prison inmates going in would only be teens or those in their 20s. Sadly that is not the case.

This wasnt hard to do. He eliminated his biggest threat immediately. Denise and Jayme were at his mercy.

Jmo

 

[pepper 34]

I just posted updated sharpened/enhanced images of the chairs an hour or two ago: #965

I enhanced/sharpened so that you can see the two ties/rope in that back of the chair, and what I believe to be damage to the front left or "splinters/splintered wood". You'll note that the "splinters" are broken and not continuous like the tie in back right. I reviewed the CNN HD video frame by frame again with a fresh set of eyes. What struck me about the video a few days later, that I hadn't realized previously is that the knot in the rear left seems "backwards" (if that makes sense) from what you could tie with the two standard cushion ties that are attached to the cushion (see attached image). The knot also seems less "decorative" than the typical cushion tie methods. It appears to be tied with a knot similar to a standard "fisherman's knot" (I'm an avid fisherman, and was fishing in the area the day of the crime). I also noticed that the strings/rope/ties are discolored or dirty, and seem disproportionate to the size of chair, meaning the tag ends are far too long to secure a standard cushion tightly. The rope in the rear right is about half the length of the chair leg. Which if you theorize that LE cut a cushion off from those tag ends, it would be far too long to secure a cushion neatly.

Upon further review, I've modified my position to believe that while this video evidence is definitely inconclusive, it's possible that someone could have been tied to the chair using the ropes/ties shown. It's also still possible that the Closs family just had cushions tied to the chair using a less common fishing style knot, and we can't really inspect it close enough to make an accurate determination.

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I'm wondering what action or weapon could cause that wood to splinter outward and upward that way. It doesn't look like a simple stress break of the wood to me which I would expect to appear like a crack in the wood. It looks like a downward strike was made and a pull backwards which brought the wood upwards using some sort of very hard instrument of some sort. Thank you for bringing the photos in more clearly. Now, I actually do believe those are just cushion ties and before I was not sure.

 

[Ragnarok]

does anyone think its odd that after almost 10 days, there have been no spotting of her or the vehicles in question? Does that mean that they are holed up somewhere, which if that is the case then this is premeditated?

Not at all. The odds are against he

As far as the blinds - they have been messed up for a while, as seen in this facebook pic from the Painting company someone posted earlier:
Sikora Prime Painting and Washing, LLC

Here is a picture from Google street view taken sometime in the past. Blinds look askew.

Google Maps

 

[elektroangel]

Barron Co sheriff news conference will be streamed live on @FOX9 Facebook page & our app. Hearing from sources that the Closs family may break their silence & speak at the 4pm briefing.

Paul Blume on Twitter

 

[Millhouse]

The dog is a very small animal from what I remember... I don't know if it's really considered an attack dog.

My dog loves everyone. I always joke the only way she could save me is by licking my attacker's face too much.

All that to say... not all dogs bark or attack. It might have been terrified from the noises and found a place to hide.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The

there were no other children listed in the obituary

The

there were no other children listed in the obituary

I find that so heartbreaking.

Jayme had to be their world and so loved by both of them.

 

[photographer4]

Ok guys. I concede. I cannot find the link to show where the photo with the removed items from the deck came from. I’m also now thinking it’s from the power wash company. Ugh. Wish people everywhere would link and cite. Would save us a lot of time and discussion.

 

[pepper 34]

Deleted. Question already answered.

 

[rainynights]

Mary McGuire on Twitter

Source tells me member of the Closs family may make “emotional plea” at today’s press briefing with @bcsheriff @WCCO #JaymeCloss #wcco

 

[Mom24]

So they did open a report on another incident, then. Since they are linking #604 to #605. Would it make sense, in your opinion, that the 2nd case number would be for the abduction? Just trying to figure out what would necessitate them linking 2 case numbers together for units responding to a singular incident.

I believe it's the two cases, one for the abduction and one for the homicide. They number cases in WI numerically and by the reporting LE. BNSO is Barron Sheriff's Office, and then the next numbers are the just numerically ordered.
Case Numbering System and Case Type Abbreviations – Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission

The CSF reference means that an incident report was also sent to CSF as required by law. LE are mandatory reporters. (can't link the site but if you search "serious incident report wisconsin" you'll find the info for that)

 

[rainynights]

Mary McGuire on Twitter

Law Enforcement Foundation of Barron County has received $11,000 in unsolicited donations since #JaymeCloss went missing. The donations have come from people all across the country. @WCCO #barron #wcco

 

[PommyMommy]

Disappearance of Jayme Closs - Wikipedia (Edited today)

The night of the disappearance a 911-call was made from the home of the Closs family around 01:00 am.[2] While the operator, did not speak with anyone, they heard a disturbance and a lot of yelling. When the dispatcher attempted to call the number back, they received the voicemail of Denise Closs.[4] Upon arrival 4-minutes after the call, Police noticed that the front door had been kicked in, and her parents; James Closs (56-years-old) and Denise Closs (46-years-old) dead, due to gunshot wounds.[5]

Two vehicles were spotted on surveillance footage near to the home, with police identifying them as vehicles of interest, and as a red or orange 2008 - 2014 Dodge Challenger and a black 2006 - 2010 Ford Edge or 2004 - 2010 Acura MDX.[3] Neighbors also claimed to hear two gunshots around 00:30 am on October 15, but dismissed it as hunting was common around their home and did not call 911.[6]

 

[pepper 34]

My dog loves everyone. I always joke the only way she could save me is by licking my attacker's face too much.

All that to say... not all dogs bark or attack. It might have been terrified from the noises and found a place to hide.

My dog also does not bark. He's a medium sized terrier and will hide under something near me and make very small, whisper-like woof sounds. It seems he wants to warn ME but also wants to remain safely hidden for his own sake. Dogs are individuals, too.

 

[Mom24]

Mary McGuire on Twitter

Source tells me member of the Closs family may make “emotional plea” at today’s press briefing with @bcsheriff @WCCO #JaymeCloss #wcco

I appreciate that it helps to do that, but it always wrenches my heart.

 

[Inthedetails]

dlete

 

[Lillymac]

Ok guys. I concede. I cannot find the link to show where the photo with the removed items from the deck came from. I’m also now thinking it’s from the power wash company. Ugh. Wish people everywhere would link and cite. Would save us a lot of time and discussion.

I actually thought this was a WS rule. And, I agree with you.