Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

[TriciaH]

Just a thought... They posited the theory of two killers... Shannon Gilbert said “they are trying to kill me”on the 911 call... maybe they’re working together. I know torso killers are supposed to be territorial, but maybe they have an understanding. Stranger things have happened.

When you consider it that way, it gives you a new (creepy) way to look at it all.
Also makes you wonder if they weren’t working together the entire time

 

[Minkus70]

From what I read yesterday, they have a suspect, John Bittrolff, that is already in jail so I honestly doubt that the police will take this any further. Bittrolff in my opinion only seems to be good for the torso killings though.

 

[hawkshaw]

They also had two cops as suspects for the murders Bittrolff allegedly did. For one of those cops they have photographs of discarded license plates on the seat of his car. Why do you suppose the cop collected discarded plates?

 

[WINDSOR]

Here is some info on Bittrolff.
John Bittrolff - Wikipedia

 

[0Luck]

SOMETIMES I feel like I m only person obsessed with the Gilgo Beach mirders until I found this site. No one I know personally talks about it or even thinks about it. I find that to be very upsetting since this horrific crime has happened in our backyard at a place that I USED to love to go to. THE only theory a I have that makes sense is that Suffolk PD is involved ESPECIALLY James Burke. He dated a prostitut named Rickemberger last name for 10 years and used to beat her regularly a cop friend told me. We all know about the blue wall which s in this case. because there were several cops That attended several of those sex parties in Oak Beach. There is a LOT for them to cover up. Anyone agree with me?

I agree totally. I am 100% new to websluths and I only joined to review this particular case. I'm looking for a few people who are truly interested in this case to brainstorm. I think it's up to civilians to solve this case due to the "odd" involvement of the police department.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

It's sad,and scary. I think it's one of those Epstein type of perv operations. With the blue wall protecting itself,and some supposedly respectable residences as host of this whole sex slave, murder thing.
They get away with it because these girls are looked upon as less than, other, as if they are a lower life form. Nobody will believe them if they come forward, nobody will care if they get snuffed out.
They know the elite,and blue will be believed over the drugged out prostitutes. And the decent blue will be retaliated against if they dare go against them, who knows the might even get snuffed out too.
MOO

 

[0Luck]

It's sad,and scary. I think it's one of those Epstein type of perv operations. With the blue wall protecting itself,and some supposedly respectable residences as host of this whole sex slave, murder thing.
They get away with it because these girls are looked upon as less than, other, as if they are a lower life form. Nobody will believe them if they come forward, nobody will care if they get snuffed out.
They know the elite,and blue will be believed over the drugged out prostitutes. And the decent blue will be retaliated against if they dare go against them, who knows the might even get snuffed out too.
MOO

It really is sad. I worked as a paramedic for years and working closely with some law enforcement I've seen some things get swept under the rug when it came to the people with a badge. Now I have to say, the things swept under the rug that I've seen is no where close to murder but it's something I've seen where a civilian would have been railroaded but the badges slip out the back door so to speak. And as for the girls being escorts .. everyone should have a voice. Even those who have a hard life. I seen the killing fields a while back and this case is something I think about very often. Having a very busy life I always put looking into it on the back burner but it was something that always plagued my back of my mind. No I'm not a detective or even a PI but I think if there's enough of us looking at it we can keep these girls " and guys" voices from being snuffed out.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

It really is sad. I worked as a paramedic for years and working closely with some law enforcement I've seen some things get swept under the rug when it came to the people with a badge. Now I have to say, the things swept under the rug that I've seen is no where close to murder but it's something I've seen where a civilian would have been railroaded but the badges slip out the back door so to speak. And as for the girls being escorts .. everyone should have a voice. Even those who have a hard life. I seen the killing fields a while back and this case is something I think about very often. Having a very busy life I always put looking into it on the back burner but it was something that always plagued my back of my mind. No I'm not a detective or even a PI but I think if there's enough of us looking at it we can keep these girls " and guys" voices from being snuffed out.

It happened recently in Renton Wa a cop got busted assaulting an informant,and they tried really hard to cover it up, and excuse it. It's sad because I am a big fan of those in uniform.

Renton Police officer arrested after allegedly assaulting woman at park

 

[0Luck]

It happened recently in Renton Wa a cop got busted assaulting an informant,and they tried really hard to cover it up, and excuse it. It's sad because I am a big fan of those in uniform.

Renton Police officer arrested after allegedly assaulting woman at park

Me too. I worked with the PD plenty of times and 99% of the time it was legit but theres always a bad apple in the group and that one apple can load all civilians with skepticism. But either way the LISK case is a clusterfu**. The PD is holding their cards so close and not allowing any info out that can possibly solve the case. There is a thought that LISK was in Daytona beach too and the PD down there is all about giving the public info. I seen a interview with the police chief down there and he even stated that the public needs to know because he admitted that 80% of the cases solved down there is due to a sluth or a person who isnt afraid to pick up the phone. Its just odd that the PD in LI and the PD in NJ where another 4 vics were found are so tight lipped. The PDs IN LI and NJ are close so they can both be covering something but the PD in Daytona are so far away they cant be involved. If that makes any sense. Im rambling sorry lol. But thats my view. The 2 PD are close so they can cover for eachother.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Ye

Me too. I worked with the PD plenty of times and 99% of the time it was legit but theres always a bad apple in the group and that one apple can load all civilians with skepticism. But either way the LISK case is a clusterfu**. The PD is holding their cards so close and not allowing any info out that can possibly solve the case. There is a thought that LISK was in Daytona beach too and the PD down there is all about giving the public info. I seen a interview with the police chief down there and he even stated that the public needs to know because he admitted that 80% of the cases solved down there is due to a sluth or a person who isnt afraid to pick up the phone. Its just odd that the PD in LI and the PD in NJ where another 4 vics were found are so tight lipped. The PDs IN LI and NJ are close so they can both be covering something but the PD in Daytona are so far away they cant be involved. If that makes any sense. Im rambling sorry lol. But thats my view. The 2 PD are close so they can cover for eachother.

yeah,and they have the power and badge,so they can harras and intimidate witnesses,or disappear them.

 

[0Luck]

Ye
yeah,and they have the power and badge,so they can harras and intimidate witnesses,or disappear them.

Yup Scary!! Like i said i have a couple cops that i talk to during calls but they are actual good cops. But in this country theres not too much of a screening process to become a cop so god only knows whos holding a badge anymore.

 

[m0x]

Oak Beach. There is a LOT for them to cover up. Anyone agree with me?

I agree. It smells too much to not be true. After all, that Escort that came out saying the police chief was also involved, even handing her money on an occasion at a party. She also claimed that several officers were there.

SRC:

 

[Whoislisk]

Came here to see discussions and see this is the most recent.
Lisk is a fisherman.
Would make sense for all circumstances.
When you buy a sack of clams, it comes in a burlap sac.
Can get crabs in a sac like that too!
Could have heard that girl screaming if he/she was on the beach with their vehicle.
I think PD should get records of who had passed to drive on the beach that year and then rule out suspects, also rule out the fishermen crew and captains of fishing boats by Captree down the road.
Never heard anyone mention fishermen who know that area, those waters, those marshes better than those who had houses there.
Editing post to add, fisherman could have obviously been a cop too as a career. Could have traveled. Just crazy to me this was never mentioned

 

[mnarmchair]

IF ''THEY' WANT TO CATCH HIM. IMO, he has already been 'caught' and that is the real problem. For the life of me I can't understand why the cops never bothered to get Shannan's 8 Burner Phones and her laptop.

I agree. Have been missing in action from discussion for a number of years but coming on today, I wonder if we know if any more bodies have been found matching the mo after John Bittrolff was caught. I've said before that if it was him that he would not of stopped after the 2 , possibly 3 murders near Manorville for so many years in between. I also wonder about the participation of his brother, I would think they would of been really questioning him over the years.

 

[mnarmchair]

I LE caught the guy why did they not announce that they had solved the case?

If there was no concrete evidence tying them to the murder, because they have already been given two 25 to life sentences, they have no reason to confess, which would be the slam dunk, but they won't ,, think his brother knows more.

 

[mnarmchair]

EAR/GSK has been caught, now its on to LISK........a former cop commuting those burglaries/rapes/murders out in Cali, anyone's guess if any cops, civil servants, politicians or even a regular citizen that's middle clasa or wealthy are involved in the LISK murders.

If the feds don't have LISK's DNA, then its gonna be very hard to solve this case.

Can you direct me to anything about EAR/GSK? I am not familiar. Thank-you.

 

[BlackCloud]

I think there's a good chance John Bittrolff is the LISK but he would never confess....he got 2 25 to life sentences and I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to add another 25 to life sentence...

 

[mnarmchair]

If there was no concrete evidence tying them to the murder, because they have already been given two 25 to life sentences, they have no reason to confess, which would be the slam dunk, but they won't ,, think his brother knows more.

Need to correct this, it is not they, but him John Bittfolff who was given the two 25 to life sentences.

 

[mnarmchair]

I did not know this about Rifkin.....

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In an exclusive 2011 interview with CBS-2's Mary Calvi, Rifkin talked about his killing spree."Certain things are very hard to stop," Rifkin said. "You think of people as things."

He said he disposed of the bodies in threes."There were mini clusters, little sets of three," Rifkin said. "Three were dismembered. Three were in oil drums. Some were in water. Some were on land. It's like my own little nightmare scenarios."

Rifkin painstakingly covered up his crimes. He researched past crimes for details."Water is harder to investigate than land because it washes everything," he said.

Throughout his trial and incarceration, Rifkin still could not explain one thing: why."I don't know. Why do people try to quit smoking for their entire lives?" Rifkin said. "As much as I say I wanted to stop, there probably would've been others."

Joel Rifkin, 34, is transferred to District Court 29 June, 1993 in Farmingdale, NY after police said he confessed to killing as many as 17 women./ BOB STRONG/AFP/Getty Images

In the first Lisk forum, I kept zeroing on John Bittrolff. Some would say that because different methods/MOs as far as bodies were concerned- like torso , burlap bags, no burlap bags, time differences between the two groupings on the beach, that is has to be two SK etc. But Rifkin makes my point as to the various ways he disposed of the bodies at least, various ways, but still the same person. JMO

 

[mnarmchair]

Unless multiple people email them and explain why the ads should be taken down they will stay up indefinitely.

I think that is so curious that no one brings up ever , the site The Erotic Review that has since closed down its American boards and moved over to Europe to Holland although there is still a place there for Americans to post. I also can't believe that of all the victims none of them did thorough screening, got references, etc. It would or been enlightening if LE had gone though the ladies hard drives for such information.
I am back after a number of years now and have a terminal illness, but Lisk has always had my attention because I want justice for the woman and their family's.
. And you are right , its almost impossible at times to get your ad off of a site. mnarmchair