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Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87
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Gabby and Brian were adults and they were not married. Roberta Laundrie can block calls from whomever she wants. I consider it the reality of life rather than emotional distress.
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They were engaged, and yeah she also knew that they had had problems in their relationship. She can block them, but that was rude to do so!
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Yes absolutely she can but this is not what the lawsuit is about.
If your son told you he accidentally killed your future daughter-in-law you seem to think it is ok to hide that fact from the daughter-in-law's parents and that it is just too darn bad if it causes them emotional distress.
They not only hid this fact - which they actually had a constitutional right to do - but they then took the outrageous step of telling the media they hoped she would be found safe and sound - when they knew she was dead.
Disgusting behavior but not against the law. Thus, we have civil court.
A judge has ruled that this is grounds for the lawsuit to continue in a civil court. That there is emotional damage is really not in dispute, what the jury will decide is if it reaches the level of a money damage award and how much.
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The P's are not complaining about Roberta's capacity to block whomsoever. Roberta's problem, and it's a major, major problem is that she could not control herself enough to absolutely block herself from making any comment whatsoever.
Hence, she instructed Bertolini, on behalf of her son and husband, speaking as a family, that they, knowing Gabby was 'gone', knowing that their son had deceptively taken possession of Gabby's vehicle, and most likely they knew he used her credit cards without authourisation, to express the utterly false and misleading 'hope' that Gabby would return and that the search for her would be 'successful', whatever that meant in Laundrie language, considering the facts.
So, it isn't a matter of Laundrie bad manners, or a lapse in social etiquette, a minor mistake, akin to not folding one's hanky correctly, or using the wrong fork at dinner, or, ..or... wearing mismatched socks. It is a false equivalence to attempt to equate this deliberate falsifying of crucial information in a criminal matter, and a careless ill-mannered mistake.
I sincerely hope the P's are successful in this matter, not in any way as a punishment to and for the Laundrie's et al, they being collateral damage, so to speak, however, collateral in the sense that they entered into the fray of their own volition. They did not have to pretend to be concerned or baffled by Gabby's disappearance, yet they did, without being forced or compelled. It was their choice to become players, and there is a price to pay, usually, to play.
oh, snap!!!
BBM. I've seen no proof that Brian Laundrie told his mother he killed Gabby.
Please provide a link. Thanks.
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Has any legitimate evidence appeared or been disclosed that the murderer’s parents suggested to him that he turn himself in to authorities or give the authorities a statement?
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not in any way , shape, or form. Nothing even remotely close to such a concept, at all. In fact, there is compelling evidence that a lot of effort and time went into avoiding any police involvement whatsoever. And it was mostly successful, as an avoidance tactic. Brian, as far as I am aware was never subjected to a rational enquiry about exactly where Gabby was presently situated by any investigative authority, ever.
And, it is supposed that his own parents did their own investigation of Gabby's disappearance, checked everything out, considered Brians' claims, and requests for lawyers, and whatnot, and decided to dig a rather large ditch for themselves to climb down into.
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The Laundrie family admits what they know
Court documents by Melissa R. on Scribd
Melissa Ratliff • DIGITAL CONTENT MANAGER
Affiliations • ABC7
During Steven Bertolino’s deposition, he testified that "Christopher Laundrie did advise him on or about August 29, 2021, that he has spoken with Brian Laundrie, that Brian Laundrie was frantic, stated that Gabrielle Petito was ‘gone,’ and further requested his parents obtain a lawyer,” the motion says.
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Interesting as a December 5, 2023 CNN article entitled “Lawsuit alleges Brian Laundrie shared with his parents that Gabby Petito was ‘gone’ and that he needed a lawyer” seems to indicate that the murderer’s parents might have first signed a retainer with counsel on behalf of their adult son? I am no lawyer, so not sure how that might influence their possible involvement.MOO
Thankyou for pinpointing exactly what this civil suite is about. Although done from a point of false equivalence re the bank stuff, your inadvertently made point is valid. Hopefully, the P's will be successful in having the law changed, altered, rectified or instigated to precisely cover these sort of chain of events.
<modsnip> The attorney is repeating what he was told by Mr. Laundrie. That isn't proof Mr. Laundrie knew Gabby was dead.The Laundrie family admits what they know
Court documents by Melissa R. on Scribd
Melissa Ratliff • DIGITAL CONTENT MANAGER
Affiliations • ABC7
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During Steven Bertolino’s deposition, he testified that "Christopher Laundrie did advise him on or about August 29, 2021, that he has spoken with Brian Laundrie, that Brian Laundrie was frantic, stated that Gabrielle Petito was ‘gone,’ and further requested his parents obtain a lawyer,” the motion says.
In those legal documents, the Petito family also claims that Brian sent a text message Gabby's mother saying there was no cell phone service in Yosemite Park.
In reality, cell phone service is sporadic in national parks.
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"The complaint further says that on Aug. 30, 2021, Laundrie allegedly sent a text message from Gabby Petito’s phone to her mother stating there was no service in Yosemite Park in an “effort deceive Nichole Schmidt into believing that Gabrielle Petito was still alive,” the filing said."
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It is proof that the Laundries knew Gabby was gone by August 29th yet they did not tell her parents. That is a pretty big deal.Big deal. The attorney is repeating what he was told by Mr. Laundrie. That isn't proof Mr. Laundrie knew Gabby was dead.
In those legal documents, the Petito family also claims that Brian sent a text message Gabby's mother saying there was no cell phone service in Yosemite Park.
In reality, cell phone service is sporadic in national parks.
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"The complaint further says that on Aug. 30, 2021, Laundrie allegedly sent a text message from Gabby Petito’s phone to her mother stating there was no service in Yosemite Park in an “effort deceive Nichole Schmidt into believing that Gabrielle Petito was still alive,” the filing said."
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Yosemite Valley: Voice and 3G (4G HSPA+) data and voice, primarily in eastern Yosemite Valley
Tuolumne Meadows: EDGE data and voice during summer, however this service is not reliable and may not be functioning, especially during early and late summer. If cell service is not available, it's likely traditional telephone service is also not available. The nearest cell and traditional phone service is in Lee Vining, outside the park.
T-Mobile
Yosemite Valley: 4G LTE and voice, primarily in eastern Yosemite Valley
Verizon Wireless
Yosemite Valley: 4G LTE and voice, primarily in eastern Yosemite Valley
Foresta: 4G LTE and voice
Crane Flat: 3G and voice
El Portal, Wawona: 4G LTE data service and voice
Tuolumne Meadows: 1x data service and voice during summer, however this service is not reliable and may not be functioning, especially during early and late summer. If cell service is not available, it's likely traditional telephone service is also not available. The nearest cell and traditional phone service is in Lee Vining, outside the park.
Even if they thought she was gone as in missing as opposed to having died, they owed it to her parents to tell them and at least get a search party going and file a missing person report.
They did zero of that, zero of what normal people would do. Just let her be gone with no help. Let her be lost and maybe injured out there somewhere, who cares?
What did they do? Hired an attorney to protect their guilty son.
Pathetic.
Any chance of her being alive would have been in Brian's best interest and they would have tried to find her if they thought for one minute she might be alive.
They sent no search party because they knew she wasn't alive. Filed no police missing person report because they knew she was gone as in passed away, not coming back.
I do not get what you are trying to say about the cell service .... Brian pretended he was Gabby, Gabby telling her mom it was hard to communicate with bad cell service. To keep Gaby's mom from getting suspicious about not communicating. Bryan was lying and deceiving towards Gabby's parents. Hiding her death because he was scared of his crime - his crime of killing her. Scared of the justice system, scared of jail, scared of Gabby's family.
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It isn't proof the Laundries knew Gabby was dead or that they knew their son had killed her. In fact, the Petito's attorney sent a letter to Mr. & Mrs. Laundrie two days AFTER Brian disappeared from their home. How callous is that? It took a month to find their son's body. They hired an attorney because their son illegally used Gabby's debit card.
The lawsuit also claims Brian sent Gabby's mother a text message about no cell phone service in Yosemite Park, which is in California. Gabby's body was found in Bridger-Teton National Forest in Wyoming. Their attorney is a real piece of work suing the parents of a dead child and claiming they knew their son had killed Gabby. The FBI never called Brian a suspect.
Facts do matter.
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Brian Laundrie's remains found after monthlong search
Brian Laundrie's girlfriend, Gabby Petito, was found strangled to death last month.
He refused to speak to investigators and disappeared on Sept. 14.
He was never charged in his girlfriend's death but was being sought for illegally using her debit card to withdraw money after she had died.
He refused to speak to law enforcement on the advice from his attorney. Brian used Gabby's debit card after she died.
I posted the link upthread.
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Actually, the reason the Moab police didn’t arrest Brian Laundrie is because they identified the wrong person as the perpetrator. Moab Police made mistakes due to not being properly trained in domestic violence.
They didn't arrest Brian because Gabby admitted to police that she had hit Brian. Police had them separate for the night which is what police do in my state if they don't witness the hitting.
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Gabby Petito-Brian Laundrie case: The full story behind the high-profile deaths
The "Van Life" vlogger was reported missing on Sept. 11, 2021. What happened between her and her fiancé Brian Laundrie in the days leading up to her death?
www.cbsnews.com
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The wording “She’s gone” even seems manipulative on his part. It is vague enough to mean anything but the only thing that is clear that whatever happened up until that point, she is physically not with Brian anymore. Why not “She’s gone. I did it” or “I killed her” or “I did something bad and now she’s gone forever”, or “She’s gone and she never can never come back”. Why not just the simple and unspoken truth, “She’s dead”. It as though while distancing himself from any responsibility he is also trying to paint the picture either she or some-third party factor are involved, like she died from alcohol pointing, took her own life, she broke things off with him to be with someone else so he stole her van and credit card in retaliation and left, they got into a fight, he took the van and abandoned her in the park overnight and when he came back he couldn’t find her when he got back. He waited two days, he thinks she has been injured and is probably dead. Any or all these things could just be framed as happenstance for which he is not responsible and could be implied or inferred by the vague term “She’s gone”.
Than asking his parents for a lawyer right after could lead many to insinuate guilt, but for his parents this request and the distancing and vague language from earlier could have been used to make it seem like wasn’t responsible for her being “gone” but he could get in trouble just by association or she could get him in trouble because he still hadn’t made it clear to them that she is dead or what exactly occurred. It is like appealing to their innate parental nature to protect their children while trusting their son when he says he is innocent despite their own doubts or how suspicious or sketchy things may look.
JMO but I did think the language could be telling. Could be wrong though.
Than asking his parents for a lawyer right after could lead many to insinuate guilt, but for his parents this request and the distancing and vague language from earlier could have been used to make it seem like wasn’t responsible for her being “gone” but he could get in trouble just by association or she could get him in trouble because he still hadn’t made it clear to them that she is dead or what exactly occurred. It is like appealing to their innate parental nature to protect their children while trusting their son when he says he is innocent despite their own doubts or how suspicious or sketchy things may look.
JMO but I did think the language could be telling. Could be wrong though.
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