Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

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You seem to be saying (as perhaps the P's are now) that RL was trying to convey how far she'd go to help him-- hence the coded language.
I don't want to go back and forth on this, but just to be clear, I really didn't express an opinion on the contents of the letter, except to say that I don't think she's being literal in her writing, just overwrought. And I explicitly wrote that I did not think she was using coded language.

I simply thought it was bizarre to write "burn after reading" on private correspondence between a mom and her son, and I have trouble accepting the "it was an inside joke" explanation.
 
No, this isn't true. There's no question that the Laundrie's released the letter. Maybe they only did that to forestall the Petito's doing it, and so they could include a statement with their side of the story. But nevertheless they were the first. I posted one article above.

Here's another one:


The article notes: "Luka released the following statement from Roberta Laundrie, along with scans of the letter."
Excellent find! Good job!
I did not see this article before.

"Roberta Laundrie has issued a self serving statement and released the “Burn After Reading” letter after Judge Danielle Brewer yesterday denied her Motion for a Protective Order to preclude a release of the letter to the Petito family. The letter was not released to the press by us. It is interesting that she would do this now, given that she has resisted providing it for the last 5-6 months, she asked for a protective order, asked for a confidentiality agreement in the afternoon of May 24, 2023, and then released it later that day."

 
I don't want to go back and forth on this, but just to be clear, I really didn't express an opinion on the contents of the letter, except to say that I don't think she's being literal in her writing, just overwrought. And I explicitly wrote that I did not think she was using coded language.

I simply thought it was bizarre to write "burn after reading" on private correspondence between a mom and her son, and I have trouble accepting the "it was an inside joke" explanation.
I know you didn't use the term "coded language." But saying RL's using grandiose language to convey she'd do anything for BL does imply (to me) things are being said without being said. That's using a code to me. Maybe it's not to you.

We can agree to disagree.
JMO
 
I wrote a letter to my then 18 year old son when he left for a college 4 hours away. I started it by saying that I felt I should be writing him to give him advice about living away from home and ways to cope with any stress his college courses might bring him but upon thinking about what advice to give I realized he had it covered. I then wrote about how proud I was of him not only because he was going to college on a full scholarship but because he was responsible, dedicated and worked hard to achieve goals he set for himself in all areas of his life. I told him if he needed help or advice I would be there and that you can find videos on how to fix almost anything that breaks on youtube, that his paralegal aunt is a great source of information about leases and if he needs any type of legal advice call her and if something does happen and the police want to question you to not say anything without an attorney.

I told all my kids when they became teenagers that if they got in trouble with the law, I would help them get an attorney but I would not go into serious debt to bail them out of jail and if they went to jail/prison I would visit them except if they caused harm to a child or committed intentional murder, kidnapping, assault or rape - in those cases they might be lucky to get a Christmas card.

I did not tell him I would bring a shovel to bury a body, bake a cake with a file in it, or proclaim my unconditional love for him in any way beyond signing - love you always, mom.

I cannot imagine a mom writing the type of letter RL wrote to an adult son - heck not even a teenage son just because they were going on a trip. They had cell phones so it wasn't like he was going to a war zone and could not text or call.
 
"In addition, there has been some speculation that this letter was in Brian’s possession or in his backpack when he died – insinuating that I gave it to him as he left my home on September 13, 2021 – but that is not true because the FBI had the letter in their possession and questioned members of my family about it prior to October 20, 2021, when my husband and I found Brian’s remains in the reserve."

She negates to say the FBI had it in their possession because of a search warrant on the vehicle Brian was driving. This letter was obtained from that vehicle after Brian had been home, evelop didn't have a stamp on it.


 
"In addition, there has been some speculation that this letter was in Brian’s possession or in his backpack when he died – insinuating that I gave it to him as he left my home on September 13, 2021 – but that is not true because the FBI had the letter in their possession and questioned members of my family about it prior to October 20, 2021, when my husband and I found Brian’s remains in the reserve."

She negates to say the FBI had it in their possession because of a search warrant on the vehicle Brian was driving. This letter was obtained from that vehicle after Brian had been home, evelop didn't have a stamp on it.


The second link says the letter was found in the house, not in the van. Specifically the link cited above says "According to Reilly, the letter was found in the Laundrie family’s home but was taken out of the van that Brian and Gabby had been traveling the country in."

It's not clear to me where the letter was found. It's also not clear to me how the P's attorney, Reilly, could know what he claimed to know. He certainly wasn't there and neither were his clients. It also seems if the letter was in the van, that makes it more likely it was written before the trip. But I have a lot of trouble believing
1. The van was searched by LE in the Laundrie's driveway before being impounded.
2. After searching the van and finding the letter in the driveway, LE gave the letter to the Laundries to take into their house where it could be found 10 days later when the house was searched.

But if that's what happened as the P's attorney has repeatedly claimed, if the letter was not innocent AND was written after GP was dead AND the Laundries knew she was dead, why didn't they destroy the letter when it was returned to them in early Sept? Why keep it?
JMO
 
The second link says the letter was found in the house, not in the van. Specifically the link cited above says "According to Reilly, the letter was found in the Laundrie family’s home but was taken out of the van that Brian and Gabby had been traveling the country in."

The second link states it wad taken out of the van
 
The second link states it wad taken out of the van
Yes, as the quote I provided said the letter was supposedly taken out of the van and then taken into the house where it was found. So the FBI didn't get the letter because they searched the van as your earlier post stated. LE got the letter from searching the house. How Reilly knew it had ever been in the van is unclear. But LE took it from the house, not the van, at least according to the link provided.
JMO
 
Everything about this letter is peculiar and mysterious!
The ominous phrasing
The burning instructions
The bird sketch
The time of origin
The place of discovery
The chain of custody
Every single thing about it is disturbing. In my opinion.
 
Yes, as the quote I provided said the letter was supposedly taken out of the van and then taken into the house where it was found. So the FBI didn't get the letter because they searched the van as your earlier post stated. LE got the letter from searching the house. How Reilly knew it had ever been in the van is unclear. But LE took it from the house, not the van, at least according to the link provided.
JMO
This will help.

 
On the other matters at the hearing, the judge denied plaintiffs' motion to compel production of financial records. They were looking for withdrawals over $10K by the Laundries at the time.

There were also motions to dismiss by the Laundries and Bertolino, but the judge has not ruled yet, though I assume at least the Laundries will be denied.
 

Attachments

The FBI would have had a copy.
I was speaking to the story from Reilly reported in the earlier link-- that the letter was found in the van but moved to the house. If that story had been true, what evidence do we have the FBI kept a copy of the letter after leaving the original with the Laundries after removing it from the van in early Sept? Why would the FBI have done that? Either it was potential evidence in which case the FBI would not have left the original with the L's OR it wasn't potential evidence in which case the FBI would not have made a copy.

Reilly's story has changed over time. Here's a slightly different account from him for how the letter was found during the house search on Sept 20: Brian Laundrie's mother offered him a shovel in ‘burn after reading’ note

"Reilly, the attorney for the Petito family, said that the FBI found the letter in a box in a closet in the Laundries' house. It contained items from the van he and Petito were traveling in, Reilly added."

So I guess because the letter was in a box with items that seemed to have been in the van, Reilly assumed it had been in the van too? Seems to be an iffy conclusion to me but if that's true, that would, IMO, argue the letter was written earlier, before the trip began, not later after GP was dead.
JMO
 
I was speaking to the story from Reilly reported in the earlier link-- that the letter was found in the van but moved to the house. If that story had been true, what evidence do we have the FBI kept a copy of the letter after leaving the original with the Laundries after removing it from the van in early Sept? Why would the FBI have done that? Either it was potential evidence in which case the FBI would not have left the original with the L's OR it wasn't potential evidence in which case the FBI would not have made a copy.

Reilly's story has changed over time. Here's a slightly different account from him for how the letter was found during the house search on Sept 20: Brian Laundrie's mother offered him a shovel in ‘burn after reading’ note

"Reilly, the attorney for the Petito family, said that the FBI found the letter in a box in a closet in the Laundries' house. It contained items from the van he and Petito were traveling in, Reilly added."

So I guess because the letter was in a box with items that seemed to have been in the van, Reilly assumed it had been in the van too? Seems to be an iffy conclusion to me but if that's true, that would, IMO, argue the letter was written earlier, before the trip began, not later after GP was dead.
JMO
I’d be surprised if the FBI did not keep a copy of anything that might be possible evidence. Perhaps they had no legal basis to keep the original, as no crime was known to have been committed at that point.

Just suggesting possibilities.
 
Just saw this -- please excuse if it is a repeat.
This case still makes me growl.
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Gabby Petito's Parents Will Get Copy of Letter Written by Brian Laundrie's Mom that Said 'Burn After Reading'​

In the letter, Roberta Laundrie vows to help her son “dispose of a body” if need be
By Tristan Balagtas
Published on May 25, 2023 03:06 PM
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The parents of Gabby Petito will receive a copy of an undated letter written by Brian Laundrie’s mom to Brian in an envelop inscribed with the words “burn after reading.”
The handwritten letter reportedly makes mention of burying a body.
In the letter, which was obtained by CNN and other outlets, Roberta Laundrie professes her unconditional love for her son, while also vowing to help him “dispose of a body” if need be.
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Petito's parents, Joseph Petito and Nichole Schmidt, filed a lawsuit in March 2022 seeking more than $30,000 in damages for the mental anguish they suffered due to the alleged deceit of the Laundries. The filing also alleged that Christopher and Roberta helped Brian conceal Gabby's murder and were making plans for him to flee the country.
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Just catching up here. Who made the letter public, the Petito's? If so, that is so sad, that they are still wanting to try this case in the public, trying to "shame" the Laundrie parents, IMO.
No, it was the judge. If I were the Laundries, I would be ashamed, but then again I would never write such a letter.
 
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