Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59

[Jmoose]

Hey guys, this case is truly the the craziest one I've ever followed on WS. I wonder why the search in the reserve was scaled back right after BL's father went into the reserve to help LE search for BL. I also wonder, if BL actually did fly home how/when did he get back to the hotel where Gabby was?

I am making the assumption that he used her credit card to take an Uber from the airport back to the hotel where she was-if he went.

 

[MyBelle]

That looks like someone’s fantasy of a “survival kit” (air quotes), not something that would actually let you survive. Most of those items are on “10 essentials”. Most humans need clothes and some kind of sleeping solution. They also need other humans to provide what’s not in the kit.
This is a guy who can’t go camping without eating at restaurants and who runs home to mommy when he’s done something stupid.

Pro tip: If you want to get into overnighting with meager supplies, go with a local mountaineering club with old timers in it (NB “Old timers” doesn’t mean “thirty somethings) and maybe some SAR or retired SAR. Listen to their stories. They’ll teach you what you need to facilitate survival. It’s not a fishhook in an Altoids can.

It's entirely possible the eating at restaurants was Gabby's idea and on her dime. From the descriptions provided by her loved ones, she was an outgoing "people" person. To me, BL comes across as an introvert who would be content playing video games all day. jmo

 

[Trooper]

Another day, no Brian. This checkmated search is feeling about as long as the Siege of Leningrad.

She was only 22. This has all the pathos there could ever be, really. Oh she was young, and it was such an ambitious trip to take, ... It's a big country, mine too, driving all over it, there are long stretches of either collegiate silence or the terrible tension of said and unsaid invective or the savage snarl of someone at the end of their tether... Brian was /is obviously ill equipped to deal with being denied , and , as Gabby so poignantly put it, even her apologies were said 'in the wrong tone'.. who can survive that kind of grinding down, when even your apologies, given to untense the situation, not because you did anything wrong are 'in the wrong tone'...??. .... It could not have all been merriment .

I don't know what preparations they made , did they do a course on mechanics and tyre changing and electronics for the van?.. There is some hint that she was a bit rushed, that he wanted her to leave her job and just take off...

And at 22 that's what one does. Done it myself. She can't be blamed for that. And should she have known what Brian was about?.. hell no, Brian doesn't know what he's about, although, if he's alive, he has a good idea by now of what he is about, I guarantee that.

I am sure that if Brian is on the run, lots of people will be speaking to Brian 'in the wrong tone'.. how he copes with that remains to be seen, but whatever personality flaws and disorders Brian had at Grand Teton, he has them today. Nothing generic changes, and his circumstances are a lot worse than what provoked him to murder his friend now than they were back then.

 

[wnk]

Today's Google Map update:

• Added Yadkin Valley Overlook, where an unidentified man was found deceased OCT 9 (source). I'll mark it "debunked" if it's verified to not be BL.

 

[SMK777]

I've wondered, since BL's parents apparently were involved in real estate on a modest level, could they have access to a list of abandoned properties or properties that were unclaimed or foreclosures that were empty in a secluded area?

Excellent question. They likely would. If not a list, then by word of mouth.

 

[Bluebythec]

This is just the best, most perceptive post. I wish everyone between 20-30 could read this- and get it. I see young adults, bombarded with images & posts of picture-perfect lives… and cringe when they think those “standards” are the new American dream. It’s hard to balance that fantasy with encouragement & support for “wins” that are less than Insta/TikTok worthy. Sigh. Maybe part of Gabby’s legacy will be to gain perspective in some way of a simpler, healthier, less-impressive “normal”. Idk…

It seems in some ways the bar has been set artificially high with the advent of media in some form or another. Ozzie & HarrieT, Father Know Best, later when divorce became more accepted, The Brady Bunch. How long has it been since our ideas of what life should be like were shaped only by what we saw IRL with our own families and those of our friends? (Sheesh, I'm old!) Today it's FB, insta, Tik-Tok, etc. People have always tried to show their best faces to the outside world. I think the difference today is that we're absolutely bombarded by the images of perfection as there are so many more avenues of input being thrown at us. I think it causes people to put such high expectations on themselves and their relationships.JMO

 

[cady]

If this is the case, then when wouldn’t he have stayed in Florida when he left for the 5-6 days? That would be the best way to get away from her…make the excuse that he had to deal with the stuff in storage, and then just not go back. I mean, we surely aren’t making the case that he was a gentleman who couldn’t leave her alone out West, because he did. And probably killed her, too.

We do not know what transpired with them from after the Moab altercation. We have no idea what the plan was. We have no idea of what communications they had when he was reportedly in FLA. We only know that his sister said she face-timed with Gabby while he was reportedly in FLA. His sister has not revealed anything about that communication, publicly. So, we don't know if Gabby was ok with BL being gone or not. We all wish that he had stayed in FLA and that Gabby would find a trusted driver to take her home to NY. Why that did not happen, we do not know. We can speculate, is all. jmo

 

[MyBelle]

The buckle means nothing. Knowledge of the basics mean nothing. Grandma Gatewood walked the entire AT twice in her senior years with all her “gear” & provisions in a pillowcase slung over her shoulder. She was highly motivated. Brian Laundrie is highly motivated. He will never be caught if people continue to underestimate his motivation.
Grandma Gatewood Hikes The Appalachian Trail

I agree, the buckle means nothing because if it was very uncomfortable, he would have adjusted it and not make the same mistake twice. I think BL is highly motivated which is why he hasn't been found. jmo

 

[514Caledonia]

male body found at scenic overlook in NC. Gabby lived in NC for a bit, any travel logs of them camping/visiting spots in NC? I could see a scenic spot having special meaning in their relationship. Brian might fancy himself a tragic Romeo

Sad. If it is a suicide, it's very sad for a park visitor to find it. I don't mean that a suicide victim is any less tragic unless it is a wanted killer and that is, also, sad as life has meaning. I want BL found alive so that we can get some answers and so he can be punished by being inside of a jail cell instead of his favorite outdoorsman lifestyle. I am trying to be delicate under the circumstances of suicide.

 

[katydid23]

JMO, but my guess is that Brian met someone via Instagram or briefly on the road and they kept in contact. Just look at the ratio of young women he's following. We've seen how he manipulated Gabby. Would it be that shocking if he was emotionally cheating to be in a position of power? +1 if it was with a fan.

I imagine Brian is hunkered down in the AC right now watching nature docs while someone waits on his every need, and they're manipulated into believing he is innocent. Hard to link him to someone like that.

He would have to be staying with someone who was isolated from friends, family or co-workers. Otherwise I think someone would recognise her new, shady boyfriend.

 

[BeanieBod]

As perhaps in his parents basement? There is no outside witness to him leaving the home. No sign of him camping in the wilderness that he was reported to have gone. Searches for him are already being downsized.

House has no basement like most Florida houses. Water table too high.

 

[borndem]

The vast majority of Florida homes do not have basements, and those that do are located away from the coast.
Source: RJ Builders, Inc. Official Website

Thanks for that! I've been wondering about the "basement" reference since I saw it. I grew up about 60 miles (as the crow flies) from the Atlantic coast, and basements, even there, were not feasible. The water table was too close -- if you dug a 10-foot hole, you wouldn't see water, but a basement beneath even a small house would never be dry -- things can probably be done now to have one, but it would be a pain and very expensive.

About Florida basements:
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While you may still find a home or two with basements in the central or northern areas of Florida, most Florida homes do not have a basement. If you should stumble across a home in the southern region of Florida with a basement, we strongly urge against purchasing this style home.Jan 6, 2020

Floridian Homes and Basements: Why This Mix Is Uncommon ...
https://imold.us › floridian-homes-and-basements-why-thi...

 

[Cool Cats]

Could Brian Laundrie still be alive if he's in Florida's Carlton Reserve? Here's what survival experts think



He would need shelter, water, food

It's unclear what Laundrie took with him when he left. His parents told police he left home with a backpack. Experts say a big part of whether he could still be alive if he was in the reserve depends on how prepared he was when he allegedly went in and how able he is to come up with the three basics: shelter, water and food.

"If he had ways to disinfect the water through filtration and (cover) to protect himself from the weather and things like that, he could survive for a certain period of time," survival expert Dave Canterbury told CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday. "If he had ways to gather food and process that food, he could survive even longer."

But Laundrie would likely have to process and cook the food he gathers, Canterbury added, and if his water filtration system failed, he would have to find another way to disinfect the water. Both of those things would likely require him starting a fire.

But North Port police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN's Randi Kaye on Friday authorities have not found any physical evidence of Laundrie in the reserve. Police also disputed that a recently used campsite was found -- information that was given to CNN from a source close to the Laundrie family.

"Starting fire is going to be a big no-no for (Laundrie) if he doesn't want to get found or seen, so I think it's going to be very difficult for him to stay out there for a very long period of time," Canterbury said. But he added that Laundrie could have had enough in his backpack to survive up to this point.

Alan McEwen, a cattle rancher and outdoorsman who lives near the reserve, said the area feels like "muck," with parts of the reserve reaching knee- and waist-deep water levels -- making camping in that wilderness extremely difficult.

"The palmettos out there alone are enough to trip you up,


palmettos

when you're walking through them, when you you stumble through them," McEwen told CNN's Chris Cuomo Friday night. "The mosquitos will carry you off, anybody out there more than a day without mosquito spray, you'd go insane with the bugs getting you and everything else."

"There's just no possible way for anybody to survive out there like that," he added. "Nobody."

 

[SuperTmo]

I tried to see if there's anything on their social media content to show it was independent venture on either one's part. It all looks like a joint project.

The website www.nomadicstatik ownership search comes back without showing who registered it.

Registered On:
2021-07-28
Expires On:
2022-07-28
Updated On:
2021-08-21 (note: this is when she in SLC by herself also possibly the date she's seen with someone else in a convenience store)

Whois nomadicstatik.com

Their youtube video "about" section seems to be a joint venture:

We’re Gabby + Brian ☺︎︎ Recently we decided to downsize our life into a little Ford transit connect to travel across the United States!

Follow our journey Website//nomadicstatik.com Instagram //
@gabspetito & @bizarre_design_
TikTok//@nomadicstatik
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsgnE460ebvgB1I30gwuLkw/about

Well yeah. Part of the persona of a van life couple is that this is some happy go lucky couple that does everything together and it’s a “we” project not either one’s individual effort. She was desperately trying to create that vibe in her work… because the alternative is her doing all the work and everyone knowing he’s freeloading and can’t even be bothered to wash his dirty feet off… which doesn’t have the same aesthetics lol. But just because they say “we are Gabby and Brian” doesn’t mean both are working on it. He even called it “her little blog” or something along those lines.

 

[514Caledonia]

male body found at scenic overlook in NC. Gabby lived in NC for a bit, any travel logs of them camping/visiting spots in NC? I could see a scenic spot having special meaning in their relationship. Brian might fancy himself a tragic Romeo

Is a body different from remains? If it's a body wouldn't LE know if it was BL?

 

[EvieIvyOver]

What kind of B S is this though!? Everything BL said he was afraid of... that's what HE did to Gabby! He took her van and phone and keys and tried to leave her.

Gabby stated that BL kept telling her to calm down, he was belittling her vlogging. I also suspect his feet and the flies they attracted were driving her nuts.

He was victimizing her. She should have let him drive off with her van and reported it stolen.

I actually have no recollection of anyone saying he was trying to leave her. And if he was, where was he going and when would he be back? She admitted that she did not want to calm down. Why?

 

[SouthAussie]

This is a guy who can’t go camping without eating at restaurants .......

We often make time to eat at a local restaurant, when we are camping. It doesn't mean that every meal is eaten at a restaurant. Many meals are still prepared at a campfire or bbq. It is a very 'normal' thing to do. imo

It becomes tedious to prepare every meal at a campsite, as it is (obviously) more difficult than preparing meals at home, and it makes for a nice break to sometimes eat at a local restaurant.

I can't imagine that having the occassional restaurant meal is a statement about BL's character or abilities.
.

 

[cady]

Could Brian Laundrie still be alive if he's in Florida's Carlton Reserve? Here's what survival experts think

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He would need shelter, water, food

It's unclear what Laundrie took with him when he left. His parents told police he left home with a backpack. Experts say a big part of whether he could still be alive if he was in the reserve depends on how prepared he was when he allegedly went in and how able he is to come up with the three basics: shelter, water and food.

"If he had ways to disinfect the water through filtration and (cover) to protect himself from the weather and things like that, he could survive for a certain period of time," survival expert Dave Canterbury told CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday. "If he had ways to gather food and process that food, he could survive even longer."

But Laundrie would likely have to process and cook the food he gathers, Canterbury added, and if his water filtration system failed, he would have to find another way to disinfect the water. Both of those things would likely require him starting a fire.

But North Port police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN's Randi Kaye on Friday authorities have not found any physical evidence of Laundrie in the reserve. Police also disputed that a recently used campsite was found -- information that was given to CNN from a source close to the Laundrie family.

"Starting fire is going to be a big no-no for (Laundrie) if he doesn't want to get found or seen, so I think it's going to be very difficult for him to stay out there for a very long period of time," Canterbury said. But he added that Laundrie could have had enough in his backpack to survive up to this point.

Alan McEwen, a cattle rancher and outdoorsman who lives near the reserve, said the area feels like "muck," with parts of the reserve reaching knee- and waist-deep water levels -- making camping in that wilderness extremely difficult.

"The palmettos out there alone are enough to trip you up,

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palmettos

when you're walking through them, when you you stumble through them," McEwen told CNN's Chris Cuomo Friday night. "The mosquitos will carry you off, anybody out there more than a day without mosquito spray, you'd go insane with the bugs getting you and everything else."

"There's just no possible way for anybody to survive out there like that," he added. "Nobody."

I saw that guy on cnn. I believe him. jmo

 

[Balthazar]

What I keep thinking is that BL got at least $1000 from Gabby's accounts. If he started on the 28th, then he might have gotten as much as $5,000 before he got to the Laundrie home. He also may have had money at his parents home - either his own stash or his parents cash - they are running a business out of their house. We don't know if he took cash out of his own account prior to the Petito's calling the police about Gabby. He may well have quite a lot of cash on hand, plus everything in his backpack. Also the neighbor mentioned that the Laundries got a new camper for their pickup truck. They had camping reservations on Sept 1 so did they have the new camper before then or did they buy it after Brian got home? If so, where is the old one?

 

[BeanieBod]

What kind of B S is this though!? . . . (SBM)
I also suspect his feet and the flies they attracted were driving her nuts.
(SBM)

She had complained about his hygiene, particularly his feet, IIRC. I bet it was more than just his feet IYKWIM.