Patrick Frazee - we waited while he had the baby for his arrest IIRCDoes anyone know of another case where the other party was completely silent for this long while the significant other is missing?
Patrick Frazee - we waited while he had the baby for his arrest IIRCDoes anyone know of another case where the other party was completely silent for this long while the significant other is missing?
This is exactly why we in the DV field are constantly advocating for better training of police and courts to be trauma-informed and educated in the dynamics of DV and how it presents in the real world. The onus should not be on the victim to calm down so she can present well, it should be on responders to recognize trauma behaviors. Which, in their defense, they can't do until they've recieved the proper training.If she had gone to jail overnight she might have calmed down. Being in jail would be stressful but getting away from the situation might have allowed her to be more calm. And if she calmed down, LE might have seen a completely different person, and maybe had a better handle of what happened.
After watching the video, I don’t believe they were taking her seriously because she was so upset.
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ETA — Having the opportunity to be more calm and hopefully allowed to tell her story would not have changed what happened later. But it might have given LE better insight into the relationship and may be revealed if DV was ongoing.
I dont think its been confirmed that she ever made it to Yellowstone.Just curious why you do not have a route drawn up to Yellowstone National Park. IMO, the most likely place they parted ways is somewhere between GTNP and YNP. GP planned to meet her friend up there on the 30th. In addition, she marked several locations along that route on her Dyrt app. She also texted her mom that there was no cell phone signal (in Yosemite). We don't know if that was really her but still. All arrows seem to point to the region between GTNP and YNP.
The location comment is definitely interesting. I don't think they're home either, but I find it hard to believe they would've been able to leave with the gaggle of reporters outside.I thought the police chief's comment about knowing his location was interesting, but could be innocuous. Also, it's the smart thing for him to do. It would benefit him, assuming he killed her.
I wonder if they could have gotten him out of his house without anyone knowing? Is there a garage?
Yes right...ofcourse ! So he could have left 30th evening ...maybe.35 hours is a day and a half, not three days. He could drive the distance in three days with sleep, easily IMO.
The gas purchase will shed some important light on the timing of his travel.
If anyone is thinking this, they should not rest easy.
I love when super smart professionals showcase their experience and talent in the often dark world of human remains recovery. IMO
The location comment is definitely interesting. I don't think they're home either, but I find it hard to believe they would've been able to leave with the gaggle of reporters outside.
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1438689012424876036
You can see the house in that video. Definitely has a garage.
It's worth noting the murder rate in Moab, UT. in 2018, there was 1 murder per 100K. ZERO going back to 2012, and nothing in 2019 and 2020.
For a community to rarely see homicides to suddenly see 2 confirmed and potentially 1 other, it's easy to see how people keep gravitating to this NOT being a coincidence.
The timelines are vague and sporadic enough to make a connection between the two cases plausible, and I'm sure there are details that LE has that is not yet public.
I'm from Lafayette, LA and the lack of details reminds me of the Mickey Schunick case. The general public and those on WS were so desperate for details, and often pinned their frustrations on LE. When all was said and done, they had Lavergne's truck on camera, and methodically tightened the noose, so-to-speak. It wasn't long before they had an arrest and her body buried on his property.
Point being, while it's entertaining to speculate, it's important to understand that in most cases, LE has the tools and resources to figure these things out. It's just unfortunate that the family and general public's timelines don't mirror LE's.
I think the idea of him tailoring his response to her version of events falls in line with what we know of his personality. Except, he would have told everyone where she was when he last saw her. To not do so is reckless endangerment imo.Something occurred to me, last thought tonight. The most gracious explanation I have to explain Brian’s silence:
He believes Gabby is alive, will re-emerge, and is waiting to see how she will explain her absence, wanting to tailor his response to her version of events. While this is not too flattering to either of them (and seems improbable), if this scenario is true, we all win.
I desperately hope she is alive and well.
edited to correct typo
Regarding the road less traveled- there is a clip on their YouTube video (and subsequently one of the IG clips) that show him walking on the edge of a cliff. VERY close to the edge of a cliff. One of them even posted about getting into a very difficult to reach place.
A fall from a cliff would not be suspicious in those circumstances. Shutting the door and hiring a lawyer instead of telling somebody what happened, however, is.
easily- I have done NY to LA on my own in 36 hrs35 hours is a day and a half, not three days. He could drive the distance in three days with sleep, easily IMO.
I was trying to think of the timing last night, and I did the math then, that's why your comment jumped out at me, ha.Yes right...ofcourse ! So he could have left 30th evening ...maybe.
Yeah, I think it was Gabby who did all the work on the blog. BL apparently had no SM presence before they started dating so it may have been more her passion than his. It must have been very frustrating for her to be told she "couldn't do it." IMOShe has drive, and dedication, and inspiration. She makes sure to stop and work on her blog, as if it was a job.
I don't get this from him at all. I haven't read that he got extra training as a mechanic, or a carpenter, or an electrician, or an IT person to support the van upkeep and maintenance on a long open-ended haul like this. I don't see him surviving without the financial support of his parents.
Most of all, I see him valuing the van over her.
This strikes me as what he really wanted; the nomad life with HIS van. Money? well that will be supplied by a gf,or parents if necessary.
I think this venture as a business was doomed because of it.
Agreed. I think it’s just a really odd coincidence, not related at all. I’d be completely shocked if they were related beyond just happening in the same area.
According to this article - he was there when they came for the Van apparently -And definitely not holed up in the house, either.
Great find!! Thanks.So this is interesting. I’m following this reporter for the Vallow case, and he just tweeted this.
Check out this new information from @NewsWithAndrea in the search for #GabbyPetito. Follow her and @EastIDNews for the latest on the case.
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