Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #61

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Kapua said:
My $0.02.
1. This is not a "traditional missing persons case."
2. As GP's dad said, "He's not missing, he is hiding."
3. BL got a good head start on LE before they even knew he was "missing."
4. BL most likely took food and money with him.
5. The food and money will run out soon.
6. BL's challenges will be 1) where to get more food and money, and 2) how to avoid being seen while accomplishing 1).
7. Unless he has a vehicle of some kind (where is his bike?), it would be difficult for him to go anywhere without being seen by someone. (Bus, train, hitchhiking are possible, but risky.)
8. It's only been a month since BL made a run for it. IMHO, not very long, considering his head start.
9. Not having a vehicle (that we know of) somewhat works in his favor, as there is no license plate to track.
10. Not having a vehicle (that we know of) somewhat works against him, as he will need to stay within walking (or biking, or delivery) distance of supplies.

That's all I have this morning. All JMHO.
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My honest opinion is that someone we don't know about (yet) has/is helping him all along. He's sheltered and has transportation, food, water and ready to watch the full autopsy report stream with popcorn and soda in his blood-stained hands. MOO.
 
First, he said we can rule out more testing being done or testing being the reason for the autopsy taking this long.

“No kinds of tests would have required a month or even weeks,” Wecht said.

Wecht said information that the coroner and FBI know about what caused her death could also have been withheld because it’s information only the killer would know.

“They withhold information, and that is hopefully what we should learn this afternoon - what was the cause of death,” Wecht added. “It’s a matter of thorough proper investigation, preparation and obtaining information from any suspect or person of interest.”

He said some of those details could possibly hinder the entire investigation. If anything is released today, he said it is possible some information may be left out.
Why Gabby Petito's autopsy results could be taking so long

“Was she beaten, did she have a fractured skull?” Wecht said. “Was there anything to indicate she was strangled?”
 
Bree1950 said:
It sounds to me that Agencies aren’t working together? Why would a Coroner have a press conference without LE guiding information being released? If they guided information, I would think they would say they had been in communication but wouldn’t be present? Is the Forensic Pathologist from Sheridan going to be present or just the general Physician Coroner? I feel the valuable information will come from the forensic pathologist!
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I think it has to do with public records law in the State of Wyoming and what can be released to the public. Because it is an ongoing criminal investigation, I think a Judge might seal the complete autopsy report. jmo

A. Autopsy and coroners reports Archives - The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press
Wyoming
Pursuant to amendments adopted in 2011, only the coroner's verdict is open. The verdict must contain any relevant toxicology information. Wyo. Stat. § 16-4-203(d)(I). For good cause, a petitioner may ask the Court to allow public access to the complete autopsy reports.
 
simon magus said:
the press conference is at 12:30pm mt, not 2:30pm...
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Yes, you are correct 12:30 mountain time, 2:30 eastern time where I live. Sorry, got mixed up there. I really confused the UK poster. :D
Jurisprudence said:
London is 5 hours ahead. I think they do not do daylight savings which puts them at 6 hours, but I do not know. I could be thinking of Asia that doesn't do DST. I know they do not. MOO
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I was reading the info from BE thinking he was in mountain time. It's 13:47 where I am now in ON so 42 minute start.
 
samiam33 said:
I think it makes sense, as many people would tip a percentage based on the check total. The server is doing the same amount of work and their table is being used for the same period of time, but without this policy they are potentially making much less on tips. As a server for many years, this is what happened.
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But the OP didn't say it was tip unless I missed it. I believe it was other members who started calling it a gratuity. MOO I don't think it's important though tbh. We know he flipped out over something and that his behavior was way out of the bounds of acceptable norms according to the witnesses. That part matters. JMO
 
TheGardener said:
Think of the torture. She's incommunicado. Your mind is racing. Where is she? What might have happened? Should we call BL's family and see if they know something? How about her friends? Should we call her friends? Are we being pains in the *advertiser censored*? She's 22. Did she call Grandpa? Maybe we should wait. Of course. Well, let's just call the Laundries...at least that. OK. No answer. No call back. Did you leave a message? Of course, I did. How about his sister? No answer.
According to this missing person report, the Petitos went through this kind of torture for 12 days before they reported their daughter missing. 12 days of terror, worry, silence where there should have been some kind of answer. Then, you learn from strangers only one of the pair returned home in your daughter's vehicle. No daughter.
We should all take a few moments to let that sink in. We may be in the calm eye of a storm of speculation, suppositions, fragments of facts - but the reality of an ever present, chatty, accessible daughter gone missing is a sobering, irrevocable, heart rending fact. Sadly, there are thousands of families suffering this same truth.
When I see this report, I see the decisive moment when grief achieves it's summit upon a mountain of fear, longing and unanswered questions. I feel so utterly awful for the Petitos. :(
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Ita.
It's hard to imagine letting the Petito family suffer for 12 days and counting.
No answers.
No explanation.
MOO.
 
Kapua said:
My $0.02.
1. This is not a "traditional missing persons case."
2. As GP's dad said, "He's not missing, he is hiding."
3. BL got a good head start on LE before they even knew he was "missing."
4. BL most likely took food and money with him.
5. The food and money will run out soon.
6. BL's challenges will be 1) where to get more food and money, and 2) how to avoid being seen while accomplishing 1).
7. Unless he has a vehicle of some kind (where is his bike?), it would be difficult for him to go anywhere without being seen by someone. (Bus, train, hitchhiking are possible, but risky.)
8. It's only been a month since BL made a run for it. IMHO, not very long, considering his head start.
9. Not having a vehicle (that we know of) somewhat works in his favor, as there is no license plate to track.
10. Not having a vehicle (that we know of) somewhat works against him, as he will need to stay within walking (or biking, or delivery) distance of supplies.

That's all I have this morning. All JMHO.
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I agree to a great extent with this. One small change. He's not on the road. He's not "surviving"in the wilderness. He's holed up in a safe house, bare feet up on a coffee table, eating granola bars and watching the whole affair on a bigscreen. The question is - when will the umbilical be cut?
 
gliving said:
The coroner for the Wyoming county where Gabby Petito's body was found in September will announce the findings from the autopsy on Tuesday, officials said.

Teton County officials said that a press conference will be held 2:30 p.m. EST regarding the ruling on the autopsy of Petito, whose body was found on Sept. 19 near Grand Teton National Park. No other information was shared.

Gabby Petito Case: County Coroner to Announce Autopsy Results Tuesday

I still curious how the coroner has the authority to release autopsy results to the public.

Coroner | Teton County, WY

Coroner Reports & Verdicts

The Coroner Report, also know as the Verdict, is available after completion of the investigation. This usually takes two to three weeks but in some cases, may take much longer. The Coroner may, per State law, convene a Coroner’s Inquest which will increase the length of time requirged for the Report.

Coroner Reports and other information governed by State law may only be released to next of kin. Next of Kin are a spouse, adult children, parents, legal guardian, personal representative with written authorization, or their legal representation. 2011 Wyoming Statutes :: TITLE 7 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE :: CHAPTER 4 - COUNTY CORONERS :: 7-4-105. Confidentiality of reports, photos and recordings; exceptions; penalties.
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I don't think report and results are the same thing. I do not see there were the coroner cannot give a limited press conference, outlining for example the help he has received from FBI, his procedure, his findings or lack thereof of cause of death and what general evidence led him to it.
He does not have to hand out photos, recordings, the formal report, or originals of tox screening to do so.

There are a whole lot of states with similar laws where there have been public release of quite a bit of detail without going over the line in the law.
 
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