Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

[TL4S]

I am literally sitting here thinking, what if LE already has that bottle?! Which I think they do. JMO

If they do already have the bottle, and the reports that the FBI is going to contact the lady who found it are accurate, I would not want to be her.

 

[mydailyopinions]

It surprised me NPPD did not search the area BL was found prior to reopening. This is the area Mr L met with FBI two weeks ago and was still heavily flooded. Nope, they search the opposite end of the park, with ariel, dogs and a drone.

NPPD was is not alert/experienced with social media, sleuths, influencers and "home grown detectives". They still didn't get it after Dog joined the search and let the cat out of the bag, of the Desota trip and the AT&T store. Best I remember LE had to go back to Desota Park and obtain the video Dog spoke of.

Will we soon see "bones" of BL on EBay? How could they not scourge this area for all debris and remove, relevant or not. They clearly could and should have remove/clear down to the dirt and the areas with orange paint.

MOO, NPPD did not take the missing person report seriously, NS had to file MPR in NY even though GP last address was with the Ls, denying CL was searching with FBI, and losing site of BL.

Now the bones/water bottle saga, that JT has already denied is relevant but, strangely the FBI is interested in.

I'm just gobsmacked at NPPD. Will we hear from the attorney's? I would bet both families are very upset.

All my opinion only

What IF the NPPD's hands were tied because it was the FBI's case?

 

[CLGM]

clipped by me to include parts of post I am asking about (bolded in green by me)-- I don't know how to do the toggle for multiple quote things...

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Sept. 22: Neighbors say they saw the Laudrie family pack up their detached camper on the day Gabby was reported missing. DailyMail.com photos show the camper was back in the driveway two days later, on September 13
....
[Indictment filed and warrant issued this date. IMO, Daily Mail wrong here. Indictment – #1 in United States v. Laundrie (D. Wyo., 0:21-cr-00113) – CourtListener.com Laundrie attorney most likely given a head’s up that this indictment was filed, especially if a proffer session was being considered by the government or floated by Bertolino. And, if it were, the AUSA (or FBI) may have even told the atty that an indictment was also already handed down or would be forthcoming against the parents. MOO]

Sept. 23: FBI issues an arrest warrant for Laundrie for 'use of unauthorized access device' for fraudulently using a Capitol One Bank debit card that was not his between August 30 and September 1 to spend $1,000; A probe is launched into the police handling of the Utah police incident on Aug. 12; Laundrie’s parents visit their attorney in Orlando

[IMO, Daily Mail wrong here. Indictment and warrant actually issued the day before, which fits perfectly with any “purported” or proposed proffer session of the Laundrie parents in Orlando. So, was this the reason why this visit was the one and only time Steven Bertolino came to Florida? To get an immunity agreement finalized (or started) and signed?]

Helpful post! A couple of questions: what do you think the charges in an indictment against the parents would have been and for which they might have been given immunity?

Regarding the report by neighbors that the camper was packed on the day GP was reported missing and back on Sept 13 (bolded by me in green above), was there ever any other reporting on this?

 

[cady]

It surprised me NPPD did not search the area BL was found prior to reopening. This is the area Mr L met with FBI two weeks ago and was still heavily flooded. Nope, they search the opposite end of the park, with ariel, dogs and a drone.

NPPD was is not alert/experienced with social media, sleuths, influencers and "home grown detectives". They still didn't get it after Dog joined the search and let the cat out of the bag, of the Desota trip and the AT&T store. Best I remember LE had to go back to Desota Park and obtain the video Dog spoke of.

Will we soon see "bones" of BL on EBay? How could they not scourge this area for all debris and remove, relevant or not. They clearly could and should have remove/clear down to the dirt and the areas with orange paint.

MOO, NPPD did not take the missing person report seriously, NS had to file MPR in NY even though GP last address was with the Ls, denying CL was searching with FBI, and losing site of BL.

Now the bones/water bottle saga, that JT has already denied is relevant but, strangely the FBI is interested in.

I'm just gobsmacked at NPPD. Will we hear from the attorney's? I would bet both families are very upset.

All my opinion only and I've very supportive of LE.

Hissy fit because they resent the Feds? Shameful. jmo

 

[cady]

What IF the NPPD's hands were tied because it was the FBI's case?

Sounds to me like they tied their own hands. jmo
FBI wanted tips from anyone who knew anything, that includes other law enforcement agencies.

 

[mydailyopinions]

Sounds to me like they tied their own hands. jmo

I would at least like to know if they were restricted in any way by the Feds.
FBI wanted tips, but were they sharing tips with the local PD where Brian was missing?
Did they go over with them the information Chris gave to the FBI? I cnnot find where the Laundries have spoken with the NPPD at all.

 

[Simply Southern]

What IF the NPPD's hands were tied because it was the FBI's case?

NPPD was responsible for the reserve search for the FBI.

When officers were called for the bones and water bottle it would seem to me NPPD would have contacted FBI immediately. If its the FBIs investigation, they should have arrived on scene, as they have in the past.

Moo...

 

[rleigh123]

It is sad, and perhaps insensitive, that NPPD did not find or show interest in the water bottle. But of what value to their investigation do people think it has? I think it’s a little insensitive to leave things out in the open that may be later identified as belongings of either Gabby or BL, but a water bottle, bits of clothing and other detritus really don’t have any value. Other than if a cause of death can be determined, I do not believe there is going to be any other finding associated with this site. The case against BL is not here, this is just the site he chose to suicide. I think all the evidence they are going to collect in GP’s murder has been collected, and I really do not see them launching a full scale investigation into BL’s death other than an autopsy.

ETA the bones shown in pictures on Twitter are clearly not human, ask any deer hunter

MOO
Items left behind because someone thinks "they probably don't matter," is not usually something that is supposed to happen in a murder investigation.

Items found in a murder case are supposed to be handled with gloves (or some other object such as pen if gloves aren't available.) Then bagged.

MOO

Of course there are cases this doesn't happen, and then sometimes mud hits the fan because of it.

There are probably hundreds of very strict rules for handling evidence.

Evidence "found" by parents of a murder suspect was taken by authorities without gloves and handled like it was their own purse. And evidence in a murder investigation was left behind.

I'm guessing that those actions probably don't align with those rules.

IMO
MOO

 

[ZoriahNZ]

If it was Gabby's water bottle, it's more evidence that BL knowingly took items from Gabby which would have been important for her survival. It helps refute the idea that she willingly left, gave up the van etc. Because not only does she not have shelter, transport, means to communicate or money, she also has no container for water while left in the wilderness.

 

[cady]

I would at least like to know if they were restricted in any way by the Feds.
FBI wanted tips, but were they sharing tips with the local PD where Brian was missing?
Did they go over with them the information Chris gave to the FBI? I cnnot find where the Laundries have spoken with the NPPD at all.

If they had an immunity deal w FBI or were working on getting one they were only speaking to FBI through their lawyer. jmo

 

[MsJosie]

Brian Laundrie found: Parents may have just missed discovering son themselves

Fox News….pictures of water bottle found in swampy area and the same type of water bottle in G bay van that was not picked up by LE in Swamp.

Public found more bones

Father find something else and puts it in water proof bag.

Neither parent was escorted by any LE…just 2 reporters following at a distance.

Two unknown men near by, maybe LE? Public walking their dogs.

this is a big mess and mistake by LE and or FBI imo.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Everything about this water bottle story is very sketchy, imo.
I suppose the bottle isn't of value to the investigation even if it was Gabby's.
Gabby's family may want anything of hers they can get.
If it is in fact Gabby's.

I can see how a small PD in SW FL would not want the FBI telling them what to do.
It's political.
Nuff said.

jmho

I agree about the sketch. For all of the LE assumed (because we really don't know) faults, I can't see them being this inept. The videos and pictures have been displayed online for all to see. Anyone could have hunted down that exact water bottle and planted it. And, if that happened it would be beyond the pale IMO because if this did happen, don't these people realize that they are ripping open the wounds of the Petito and Schmidt family all over again?

I am getting annoyed with the lack of accountability in this case. I've been borderline sick to my stomach since last night thinking that after all that has occurred it may very likely be that no one will ever be held to account.

And, with that said, I say this: IF someone planted that water bottle there and they can prove this by trail cams or otherwise, arrest them and prosecute them. IMO this is tantamount to filing a false police report. MOO JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

OCT 24, 2021
Brian Laundrie's parents leave house for first time since his body was found | Daily Mail Online
Brian Laundrie’s parents, Christopher and Roberta, left their home Sunday for the first time since police told them their son was dead in a Florida swamp.

The couple dashed out to their red Dodge Ram pick-up truck at 9.50am after holing up inside their house for four days.

Christopher, in a gray t-shirt and dark shorts, quickly got in the driver's side of the truck while Roberta, in blue cut-off jeans and carrying a large green bag, hopped in the other side. It was not known there the couple were heading.

The father, 62, reversed quickly and drove to the center of North Port. He was followed by a news crew before stopping and talking to them.

He told them: ‘Please let me grieve with my family.’

[...]

 

[cottonweaver]

I am literally sitting here thinking, what if LE already has that bottle?! Which I think they do. JMO

I was sitting here thinking what if the Laundries hadn't decided to pop down to the Creek last week when it reopened and the remains had not been found that day

Cause the public or the grifters would have found the remains, bag, backpack etc

That almost happened.

 

[Gardenista]

Brian Laundrie found: Parents may have just missed discovering son themselves

Fox News….pictures of water bottle found in swampy area and the same type of water bottle in G bay van that was not picked up by LE in Swamp.

Public found more bones

Father find something else and puts it in water proof bag.

Neither parent was escorted by any LE…just 2 reporters following at a distance.

Two unknown men near by, maybe LE? Public walking their dogs.

this is a big mess and mistake by LE and or FBI imo.

I really want to see this drone footage

On Saturday, a Fox News drone captured images of a massive hog charging through the same clearing where Roberta had paused just days earlier, at the heart of the search area. Several pools of water still hadn’t receded.

 

[CocoTutu]

Especially because the area was under water I'm really shocked they re-opened the area after only 48 hours. They really should've scoured it beyond thoroughly and removed ANY items that were possibly connected to a human. FBI & NPPD have completely shat the bed on this case.

 

[Jurisprudence]

This is an amazing post Jurisprudence. I think it makes so much sense. I’ve remained agnostic about the Laundries’ role/knowledge, but this timeline is really persuasive in suggesting they had some exposure they needed to minimize. It explains why SB praises LE, & also why he has kind of been providing no real defence for BL (unless we count “it’s not like he’s some serial killer”). JMO. Thanks for putting this together.

IMO, it also explains why in the Fox Digital interview you found he is on tape repeatedly saying "There were no threats. There was no coercion," etc. That could invalidate a deal.

But we don't know. It could have been SB who floated it bc after ditching all the phones he knew LE wouldn't have enough proof for trial. Because remember, it's not what you (or in this case LE) knows, it's what you (or in this case the government) can prove. MOO IMO JMO

Thank you for finding that interview and putting things together!

 

[dacjess]

I’ve been trying to wrap my brain around something and maybe you guys here can explain it. I’ve read that some people don’t communicate with their child’s ex after a breakup and the Laundries might have taken BL’s word that there was a breakup and not questioned. If that is true, how does a lawyer get involved in this scenario? I can’t understand why someone would think their son and his gf just broke up so they contact a lawyer?? As soon as a lawyer is contacted, my thought would be there has to be some sort of suspicious activity or discussion to warrant that. I find it odd the way SB spoke of (or actually refused to speak of) any date prior to Sept. 11 when speaking to AB. Is it possible he viewed himself as a friend chatting to family friends up until that date?
Idk, I’m just not able to reconcile why parents would have an attorney if they believe nothing happened. Or if there is an attorney hired in that scenario, it would be to accompany BL to tell LE what he knew just to cover himself legally. As an innocent person, I myself would have a lawyer present but I would also make myself available to LE. So how does it make sense to hire a lawyer and not present your son if they truly believed he just broke up with his gf and drove home?
JMO.

 

[Jurisprudence]

This really makes me angry/disgusted but I don't know who to be angry/disgusted with! jmo

What and which part? You have no quote. But, if your answer is "all of it", I agree, cady. I agree.

 

[Bertha96]

NPPD was responsible for the reserve search for the FBI.

When officers were called for the bones and water bottle it would seem to me NPPD would have contacted FBI immediately. If its the FBIs investigation, they should have arrived on scene, as they have in the past.

Moo...

Did the FBI arrive on scene when CL found the white bag and LE then found the backpack? I can't recall if it was local LE or the FBI...IMO.