Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #84

[gliving]

Here’s the suit:

PDF: Brian Laundrie Suit | PDF

Lawsuit claims Brian Laundrie's parents knew about Gabby Petito's murder

Maybe an attorney can chime in. What is the purpose of their lawsuit? Is it financial damages? tia

 

[MountainGal33]

It could very well be true, but as they haven't been legally charged they are just allegations at this point.

I'd rather have all the facts before suggesting they should be taken down.

You have a point as far as having an emotional reaction to the file before details..however:

You know when you’re blocked on FB. The person disappears in the search engine. You can not find them. To use the word block is very specific. She didn’t say “unfriended”.

You can also tell if you’re blocked on a cell phone at least from my iPhone - it will not say “delivered” when you text and calls go straight to voicemail. Safe to say you’re blocked.

This part of what l read is in-line with the Laundrie’s continuous stonewalling of the Petito’s that we watched play out on national TV.

(all my opinion)

 

[acutename]

Gabby Petito's family sues Brian Laundrie's parents, claiming they knew of murder

This article refernces contacts between the Ls, BL and their attorney before they say that BL lefy WY. If you recall, there were a lot of Qs about when the atty was hired.

 

[Megnut]

Gabby Petito's family sues Brian Laundrie's parents, claiming they knew of murder

This article refernces contacts between the Ls, BL and their attorney before they say that BL lefy WY. If you recall, there were a lot of Qs about when the atty was hired.

Perhaps this lawsuit is the only way to see those call logs.

Perhaps Gabby's parents simply want to know the exact day their daughter died.

A fair ask.

And it's taking a lawsuit to do it.

JMO

 

[Laura456]

I understand but remain hopefully optimistic that their shelter for DV victims will help. Idk what else we can do but offer hope and security for the victims and their children. IMO Changes need to be made obviously but our current leaders are otherwise occupied or so they say.

Of course it will help, I just hope that everything is done with transparency and minimal admin costs. I remember looking up charity I respected and that their CEO was paid 300k. I stopped giving to that charity, in my mind nothing justifies taking so much away from the cause.

 

[janiwan]

Just watching JB going through the suit now. The Petito's were very vocal about the Laundrie's not responding to their calls and messages. I wonder why they didn't say at the time they had been blocked.

Unless they did and I missed it somehow.

Maybe they did not know for certain and only got confirmed later

 

[TL4S]

Gabby Petito's family sues Brian Laundrie's parents, claiming they knew of murder

This article refernces contacts between the Ls, BL and their attorney before they say that BL lefy WY. If you recall, there were a lot of Qs about when the atty was hired.

The attorney's statement also says BL left WY on Aug. 30th. Am I the only one who finds it odd that BL hung around for three days (assuming they are correct in the Aug. 27th date of death)? Was this a grand scheme to make it appear as if nothing was wrong? Because I'd think he would want to get out of there in case someone stumbled upon her body.

I'm not ready to run with every one of these allegations, but IF they are correct, then whose idea was it to take all those steps to deceive? Hiking in the area, telling stories to hitchhiking rides, the "Stan" and "Yosemite" messages to NS, using GP's credit cards, texting between phones, etc.

On one hand, we have BL doing all those things, while on the other hand, putting "self-consumption" on his spotify, then coming home, confessing in a notebook, and finally killing himself (with his left hand). Seems sort of counterintuitive in so many ways.

 

[BeachSky]

'Beyond All Possible Bounds of Decency': Bombshell Lawsuit by Gabby Petito's Parents Claims Laundries Tried to Help Son Leave the Country After He Confessed to Murder
….shared a “cordial relationship” with Petito’s parents until Gabby disappeared after placing a final call to her mother on Aug. 27, 2021.
_______

WHY ghost GP’s parents?
WHY hire a lawyer?
My friend’s son was murdered.
I went to the trial with her. Painful emotional long …drawn out. The perp got 40yrs.
But to this day that mother wants to talk to the guy who killed her son.
How did you do this? ..why did you do this?
she wants answers.
IMO this is about accountability and answers.
IMO this is about how dare you think standing up for your child is more important than me standing up for mine.


MOO

 

[RANCH]

This civil lawsuit looks really weak to me. I'm not sure how the Petito's can show that the Laundries knew Gabby was dead weeks before her body was found. They used this statement from the Laundries as a basis for their claim.

It is our understanding that a search has been organized for Miss Petito in or near Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming. On behalf of the Laundrie family it is our hope that the search for Miss Petito is successful and that Miss Petito is reunited with her family.

How is stating that they were made aware of a search for Gabby in the area where she was last known to be evidence that the Laundries knew she was dead? I don't see it.

And the alleged call to their lawyer on August 28th is known to be about Gabby? Maybe it was about a real estate deal or some other matter.

I'll be surprised if this lawsuit goes anywhere. But I have been surprised before so we will see. JMO.

'Beyond All Possible Bounds of Decency': Bombshell Lawsuit by Gabby Petito's Parents Claims Laundries Tried to Help Son Leave the Country After He Confessed to Murder

 

[TL4S]

I have a question regarding lawyers and retainers. If the Ls knew BL had killed GP, called SB on Aug. 28, and then spoke with him off and on while BL was in WY, why did they not put the retainer down until Sept. 2 (according to the complaint)? Would SB give legal advice without the retainer? I know nothing about the legal world, so it's a legitimate question.

Another question along the same lines. In the Banfield interview, around the 2:26 mark, SB says he wasn't called regarding this matter until Sept. 11, at 11:30 pm. I know a lot of people will argue that he's scum and is lying, but I would like a serious answer to why he would lie, putting his reputation on the line. I don't know if him lying to the media would have any consequences for his clients in the event of a civil or criminal case, but I would imagine SB knew LE would have phone records, at the very least.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Did they perhaps file this in order to get that?

It's an automatic filing when filing a complaint. As is the summons - the summons allows for the defendants to be served. The civil case cover sheet is routine.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

I guess they did have the right to remain silent if they are guilty

In response, Laundrie family attorney Steven Bertolino, of East Islip, said in a text message: "As I have maintained over the last several months, the Laundries have not publicly commented at my direction which is their right under the law. Assuming everything the Petitos allege in their lawsuit is true, which we deny, this lawsuit does not change the fact that the Laundries had no obligation to speak to Law Enforcement or any third party including the Petito family. This fundamental legal principle renders the Petitos' claims to be baseless under the law."

Brian Laundrie told his parents he killed Gabby Petito, lawsuit alleges

The right to remain silent is a right for everyone, not just those that are guilty.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

BBM

I'm pretty sure everyone has the legal right to remain silent in the US. Often people will say things like "innocent people have no reason not to talk to LE" but that's not really true. Nor is it what many attorneys tell their clients.
JMO

Exactly, any good attorney will always tell their clients to not speak.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Briefly read the filing and I’m confused. Any FL attorneys/paralegals here? Where’s the claim that the parents owed a duty to alleviate suffering, etc? What’s the exact cause of action? Is this this entire complaint?

I had the same reaction and I'm not a FL attorney. However, the civil case cover sheet checked "negligence" as the cause of action.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

I have a question regarding lawyers and retainers. If the Ls knew BL had killed GP, called SB on Aug. 28, and then spoke with him off and on while BL was in WY, why did they not put the retainer down until Sept. 2 (according to the complaint)? Would SB give legal advice without the retainer? I know nothing about the legal world, so it's a legitimate question.

Another question along the same lines. In the Banfield interview, around the 2:26 mark, SB says he wasn't called regarding this matter until Sept. 11, at 11:30 pm. I know a lot of people will argue that he's scum and is lying, but I would like a serious answer to why he would lie, putting his reputation on the line. I don't know if him lying to the media would have any consequences for his clients in the event of a civil or criminal case, but I would imagine SB knew LE would have phone records, at the very least.

A lot of times lawyers will provide a free consultation. It may have taken the Laundries a few days to gather the funds together for a retainer. For a retainer, an attorney will require a certain amount be paid upfront, and then will provide bills for the amounts used in the retainer. From there, once the retainer is used, the attorney can do one of two things: 1) Bill the clients monthly; or 2) require another retainer - payment upfront before any more work.

Right now, the complaint from the Petitos is just allegations. There has been no evidence presented, and no exchange of discovery. So, it's sort of a he said he said situation. Hopefully, when discovery is conducted, they'll know the exact date and time that the Laundries first talked with Bertolino.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Once the Laundries are served (a proof of service will be filed with the Court, I'll keep checking the court website to see when that is), they will have 20 days to respond, not including the day that they were served.

I don't know FL law, but I know in CA, when served with a complaint, the defendant can then filed a Motion to Dismiss or a Demurrer. If those are then lost, an Answer is filed.

An Answer will admit and deny the allegations paragraph by paragraph in the Complaint. Then it will contain Affirmative Defenses. In CA, they have to put any and all applicable affirmative defenses because if it's not in the Answer, you lose the ability to use it as a defense. (Unless of course there is an Amended Complaint and Amended Answer).

 

[Satchie]

IMO this is about how dare you think standing up for your child is more important than me standing up for mine.
MOO

Yes, I'm sure that is the emotion GP's parents feel. But in the eyes of the world, and the law, these were not children, they were both adults.

 

[MountainGal33]

This civil lawsuit looks really weak to me. I'm not sure how the Petito's can show that the Laundries knew Gabby was dead weeks before her body was found. They used this statement from the Laundries as a basis for their claim.


How is stating that they were made aware of a search for Gabby in the area where she was last known to be evidence that the Laundries knew she was dead? I don't see it.

And the alleged call to their lawyer on August 28th is known to be about Gabby? Maybe it was about a real estate deal or some other matter.

I'll be surprised if this lawsuit goes anywhere. But I have been surprised before so we will see. JMO.

'Beyond All Possible Bounds of Decency': Bombshell Lawsuit by Gabby Petito's Parents Claims Laundries Tried to Help Son Leave the Country After He Confessed to Murder

I mean in my opinion, I think the Petito's are aware the Laundrie's are magical people and magical people can do magical things - especially with magical lawyers.

We all watched on TV -said magic- the day they walked into the reserve and in less than a few hours walked out with their son's belongings & inadvertently his bones were discovered nearby - -when trained FBI and most of the local law enforcement spent weeks/money/dogs/fancy equipment/ and found nothing.

So my cheers to the Petito's attempt to dispel all that magic...

 

[NCWatcher]

A lot of times lawyers will provide a free consultation. It may have taken the Laundries a few days to gather the funds together for a retainer. For a retainer, an attorney will require a certain amount be paid upfront, and then will provide bills for the amounts used in the retainer. From there, once the retainer is used, the attorney can do one of two things: 1) Bill the clients monthly; or 2) require another retainer - payment upfront before any more work.

Right now, the complaint from the Petitos is just allegations. There has been no evidence presented, and no exchange of discovery. So, it's sort of a he said he said situation. Hopefully, when discovery is conducted, they'll know the exact date and time that the Laundries first talked with Bertolino.

Re: allegations-- It's unclear to me how the P's will prove their numbers were blocked much less prove RL did it, not BL. I don't believe the phone company records will show blocking if the blocking was done at the level of the phone (vs being done by the phone company) But I'm not sure about that. Regardless, my question has to do with how the P's have gathered whatever evidence they have (assuming they actually have any evidence at this point. They may not.) For example, would the FBI or other LE just hand over the evidence they've gathered to one party to file a civil suit? Or did it have to be subpoenaed? Could it have been subpoenaed in advance of any case filing?
TIA

 

[RANCH]

A lot of times lawyers will provide a free consultation. It may have taken the Laundries a few days to gather the funds together for a retainer. For a retainer, an attorney will require a certain amount be paid upfront, and then will provide bills for the amounts used in the retainer. From there, once the retainer is used, the attorney can do one of two things: 1) Bill the clients monthly; or 2) require another retainer - payment upfront before any more work.

Right now, the complaint from the Petitos is just allegations. There has been no evidence presented, and no exchange of discovery. So, it's sort of a he said he said situation. Hopefully, when discovery is conducted, they'll know the exact date and time that the Laundries first talked with Bertolino.

If the Laundries did talk to Bertolino on August 28th can they be forced to disclose what was discussed? Or does attorney client privilege apply? Thanks.