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[ewwwinteresting]

TRIX :
"What I find interesting is that Raven hasn't bothered to do anything special for Janet. "

..i don't find it so much "interesting", more along the lines of disgusting and unbelievable......

..'the raven' obviously has the capabilities to put something out there , he did quite well on the 'ravenstree' site............

..if innocent.........( yes, i'm gagging even typing the word) ....wouldn't he have been all ove LE, demanding justice, dying to know who could have possibly done this to his loving wife ? yet we've never seen the "OH MY GOD , who did this ????????????????????and WHY?????" from raven............we've just never seen anything at all............

..he continues to move forward in his own life, completely forgetting the past.......
..i would have at least expected, ( innocent or guilty ) that he would have posted a GLOWING triute on the tearsforjanet site.......for appearances sake if nothing else........

..that's your defense raven ? zero ? zilch, nada, nothing ?
..are you hoping this will all just go away if you ignore it ?
..this is murder raven------------nothing is "going away"....get used to it.

Exactly!

 

[caffeinatd]

I live about 1 mile from where the murder occured, I go past that street several times a week and wonder where the investigation is going. This site is very good, but why no arrest yet? Does LE not see what you guys do? I find it very disturbing, and wonder why they let him leave the state after his guilty plea.

 

[terminatrixator]

Welcome Caffeinatd,

The Embezzlement Charges were due to The Raven embezzling from Eurosports, which happens to be located in Orange County.

The Murder of beautiful Janet Marie and her unborn child happened in Durham, NC, Durham County.

The Raven left the State of North Carolina quite quickly after the Murder of Janet and her unborn child, and he moved to Sandy, Utah to go live with his Mother, Karyn and her husband, Jim Bolton, much prior to the hearing on his embezzlement case.

This was in a different county and the Judge could not consider the fact that Raven's wife had so mysteriously been murdered in April 2005. I looked into this myself, and had the Judge been contacted prior by an outside source, he would have had to recluse himself from the case, so I dropped it after finding out the legal aspects of this.

In August, Raven flew back home, like a thief in the night. His case was scheduled to be heard at the end of a week in August, and somehow the case got moved up a few days, with no notice. We luckily figured out something weird was going on when it disappeared from the docket and made sure there was a reporter waiting outside for him. You can look through the threads and perhaps find the ridiculous interview he provided, and notice the look of shock on his face when he realized, he wasn't able to sneak into North Carolina and out without being noticed.

He worked out a plea agreement, and truthfully, don't know if the Murder of Janet would have mattered in this even if the Judge was aware.

Unfortunately, Law Enforcement had no legal grounds to hold him, just because his wife was murdered. As of this date, no POI or Suspect has been named, but obviously, if you have lurked here for a while, you would see that I am of the full belief that he is STONE COLD GUILTY!

Right now, it seems like a circumstantial evidence case and perhaps LE is holding out for more information to be sure to be able to go for First Degree Murder.

Again, welcome to Websleuths, and please chime in if you need any help finding information here, please feel free to post it and someone will be happy to help you with any questions you may have.

 

[lauriej]

I live about 1 mile from where the murder occured, I go past that street several times a week and wonder where the investigation is going. This site is very good, but why no arrest yet? Does LE not see what you guys do? I find it very disturbing, and wonder why they let him leave the state after his guilty plea.

..i'm certain that LE sees exactly what we all do, but don't want to risk 'double jeopardy' in bringing this case to trial until it's a "done deal--guilty in the 1st degree "......

..given that LE has not named any POI's or suspects, and the tight time-frame of TOD , raven puts no-one but himself right at the crime scene ..

..his 911 call, "my wife is upstairs---------hurt---maybe shot?------"call was ridiculous and callous then.....(his wife was upstairs and "hurt"?-------while he's apparently downstairs and NOT trying to help her ?) and even moreso as details unfolded...

..she had not been shot------------she had been stabbed-----------and was not "hurt", she was very much dead when raven made the 911 call.........

..surely even he could have made the distinction..............so why all of the lies from raven right from the start ?

 

[ewwwinteresting]

I wish they would release that 911 call!!!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I wish they would release that 911 call!!!

I was just thinking that myself. I want to know two things:

1) Was Raven making the call as he was running back upstairs or was he standing downstairs while talking to 911?

2) Was Raven TOLD to go get crying Kaiden from his crib?

 

[lauriej]

oh yeah, there's a ton of things i'd like to know regarding the 911 call........

..was he calm ? or frantic ?
..calling from the house? the yard? upstairs with janet ? on her phone, or his, (which he said he had left out in the truck ?)

..was he covered in blood when LE arrived? as he should have been, since he should have been trying to help her.......

..was kaiden also covered in blood ?, from raven, when he grabbed him from the crib..........surely instinct would have had him do so........

..did the 911 operator 'walk him/talkhim' through steps to help his wife, "who had been "hurt",possibly shot'? (as raven had said )............and if so is there proof that he tried at all ?

..was he upstairs with janet when LE arrived, holding his dying wife and showing emotion....................or outside , as if waiting for a pizza delivery ?

 

[terminatrixator]

EWW I would love to hear that 911 call myself.

I would like to hear the 911 call and see what he said when they got there. I would love to know all the questions they asked of him, and exactly what time he left the Police Station. I would like to know why they didn't polygraph him that night, I would like to know when the first mention of having an attorney was.

So many things. I would like to know why he told the Man who picked him up from the Police Station to tell Janet's famiy that Janet committed suicide. What was his motivation for that? I would like to know many many things, including why he lied so desperately on his Monster resumes. I would like to know exactly how he explained himself to the family and how they can believe him, though he's been known to lie desperately in the past, I would like to know why they believe his innocence, when he has been known to have affairs and he's a thief.

I would like to know if he had indeed embezzled in the past from his previous employer and the exact reason why he was let go from Cingular.

I would like to know why he lies, denies and has gone on with his lilfe with no cares in the world.

I would like to know why he Murdered Janet and the baby she was carrying.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

..was kaiden also covered in blood ?, from raven, when he grabbed him from the crib..........surely instinct would have had him do so........

I'll have to check back through the threads sometime when I get a chance. I could have sworn that someone said that Kaiden was still in his crib until Raven was instructed to get him.

 

[lauriej]

..i remember that as well jersey, and did some searching through the "old threads".....considerable search, but didn't come up with "the" post that i was looking for..

..but wow!

..those early posts were quite detailed.......................quite informative......

..good 'sleuthing' going on , raven must have been practically passing out as he read the things uncovered

..the good news , of course LE has all of the earlier things etc printed off and has a huge file on raven............i anticipate an arrest in the very near future......

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

..good 'sleuthing' going on , raven must have been practically passing out as he read the things uncovered

..the good news , of course LE has all of the earlier things etc printed off and has a huge file on raven............i anticipate an arrest in the very near future......

Very true. And I hope that Raven realizes that even if there's nothing being said at this point in time, the incriminating things are still out there and still in all of our collective memories.

 

[terminatrixator]

I'll have to check back through the threads sometime when I get a chance. I could have sworn that someone said that Kaiden was still in his crib until Raven was instructed to get him.

That's what I heard also JG. Kaiden was crying and Raven was instructed to get Kaiden. But was this another one of Raven's explanations.

But then again, most of the things Raven has stated has been lies, which have been proven. The thing is I don't know if Raven knows who he told what to anymore, we have so many inconsistent statements from the guy, that it gets blurred.

Hot, Cold, shot, stabbed, alive, dead, on her knees on her back, but there are records of these things and this murderer will not get away with it, imo.

 

[golfmom]

That's what I heard also JG. Kaiden was crying and Raven was instructed to get Kaiden. But was this another one of Raven's explanations.

But then again, most of the things Raven has stated has been lies, which have been proven. The thing is I don't know if Raven knows who he told what to anymore, we have so many inconsistent statements from the guy, that it gets blurred.

Hot, Cold, shot, stabbed, alive, dead, on her knees on her back, but there are records of these things and this murderer will not get away with it, imo.

Trixie, the story always seems to change depending on who's the audience. Nothing like playing for the crowd.

 

[LTUlegal]

Trixie, the story always seems to change depending on who's the audience. Nothing like playing for the crowd.

Hey, GM! Good to see you!!
Yes, Raven does like to play for the audience, doesn't he?

 

[L L & S]

hey look at all the guests logged on to see what happened on NG last night...... tell us what you think.... tell us what compelled you over.... tell us why you lurk......

 

[Clearly Confused]

I lurk often. I came on to see what everyone was saying about the spot Nancy Grace did. I had to post when I notice some people just don't have anything nice to say. I for one am very happy it showed and don't want to say to much more or I may get banned.

 

[caffeinatd]

Wow...11 lurkers tonight...