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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Thanks for the response. I do agree that it's impossible to rule out anything at this point. But the Luna-Gricar connection is even more of a stretch than the proposal that Sandusky may have played a role in Ray's disappearance. I think most would agree the later isn't really a viable theory...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Why would Gricar have any connection to the Luna case?
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Well let's take a step back here, this is where it all started. Let me preface by saying that I could be completely wrong here, but I could have sworn there was a witness that saw Ray in the parking lot using *possibly* using the laptop. Keep in mind I included the word "potentially", exactly...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    I've posted the map I made regarding the case numerous times, and I addressed my theory (or lack of) on the last page - maybe you missed it. I haven't seen much "disproving" on your part. I'm not taking sides here - I've gone through all the posts regarding RG and it's very clear there has...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Well that's one way to put a spin on it. Following rules or not, maybe you should just report J.J and move on if you feel so strongly about it? Surely if you guys are willing to spend 5+ pages insulting and berating the guy, you care enough to contact the moderators, right? Posting baseless...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Are you trying to prove my point? This is exactly what I'm talking about when I said the pretentious, condescending attitude needs to stop. How would you know if I'm new to the case? Because of my join date? Really? Being "new to a case" has nothing to do with having the ability to conduct a...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    It's a shame, this thread has become more of a pissing match than anything resembling a civil conversation. The childish rhetoric is pretty disappointing; the discussion here isn't anything close to the previous threads on the topic. The pretentious, condescending tone some of you have been...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    I honestly don't have a theory of any kind; I don't think we have near enough info to make any type of conclusive observation. If it was narrowed down to "foul play" or "walk away" (and obviously suicide), maybe I could throw together a hypothesis, but as of now I'm not in the game of making...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Hasn't been posted in a while so here's the map I made a few months back, feel free to edit as needed; https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z69ZxbaBvzmM.kMN08HHDqNB0&usp=sharing
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    You blatantly insulted the guy, essentially calling him a complete liar....and you expected not to "strike a chord"? Oh my.
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Why would that be irrelevant? If we're going to assume that the laptop/hard drive was planted, why wouldn't the people who OWN the laptop be the first people we look at, with such a lack of evidence for anyone else? Oh, it's okay for you to speculate with no actual evidence to back your...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Because the laptop is owned by the state, I'm not sure who else we could reasonable suspect. Well believing or having faith is one thing, I'd like to see actual facts that support such a theory before I make any kind of judgement. That isn't to completely rule it out completely, but...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    Such as? There has been no evidence that I'm aware that would support that theory, though I would be the last one to rule anything out at this point. Genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion, or really any with the limited info we have. Are you also implying law enforcement planted...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #14

    And to add on to that, I think we have too little evidence to really rule anything completely out. There's a million things that could have hypothetically happened to Ray; I find it a bit disingenuous to rule anything out at this stage of things. I think we could rule something like an alien...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #13

    Ahh gotcha, thanks! Will do -- quick question though; do you mind if I could use some of your pictures from that album? Totally understand if you do, figured I would ask before just using them.

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